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| Has anyone ever tried using the conventional 3 hook quick-strike rig, but instead of using one of the 3 trebles to anchor it in the fish, tried using rubber bands around the body of the sucker to hold the rig in place?
We lost a lot of fish last fall on suckers, and i've been trying to figure out a way to make those percentages go up this year. I figured this way might keep the sucker alive longer, let them swim more naturally, and break-away clean should a musky hit it. |
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Location: WI | I use the shumway rig with the clip in the nose and two trebles. Have lost very few fish with that rig.
Maybe ou are not lettin the fish swim away from you when you hit them? |
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| We try to hit them as quick as we can, as i've seen big fish swallow them head first in under 10 seconds. They tend to bury themselves in the weeds and we don't want to sit and wait to see which way they are heading. Our main problem is setting the hook and the sucker not breaking away from the rig, causing a crap hook set. |
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Location: N.FIB | I`ve thought of that but never tried it,getting the right size rubber bands to fit around the sucker and fit right would be tough,lost fish happens on live bait and lures-it just happens |
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| I'm not so much worried about the rubber bands, as you can get assortment packs and make it work. Just not sure if the rubber bands would cause the rig to break-away too quickly should a fish hit it. It'd also be nice to not have to poke holes in them when they charge 10-11$ a piece around here. |
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| I have thought of the exact same thing but just haven't tried it.
I was also thinking of the color of the rubber band and thinking
if you could find grey rubber bands to blend in a bit with the color
of the sucker. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I tried it years ago, tough to find a band that is tight enough to secure the treble and not kill the sucker; they don't take well to the tourniquets.
Try attaching a split ring to your hooks and a safety pin to the split ring. Pulls out easy enough. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have done it with success but only tried it with a single treble rig on smaller suckers. With the hook t-ed it works and hooks well. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | You should be hooking the sucker just under the scales. No hole punching involved. I cannot recall ever killing a sucker by rigging it up. |
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| A couple of zip ties might work, if you cut off the tag end. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Yes, I've tried it. It can work, but a ginormous pain to do so. There are much easier methods out there. |
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Location: The desert | Suckers only need one hook. Wasting time with rubberbands just gives you cold fingers. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Actually you should be casting anyway. Sucker fishing, like trolling, is cheating. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Northwind Mark - 7/28/2014 11:21 AM
Actually you should be casting anyway. Sucker fishing, like trolling, is cheating.
Casting is cheating, too. REAL muskie fisherpeople just use their hands. More challenging yet is to go completely hands-free and you catch whatever you can grab with your mouth. It's really not fair that we have thumbs and muskies do not. So, its teeth versus teeth.
Get ur flippers on! |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Pointerpride102 - 7/28/2014 10:49 AM
Suckers only need one hook. Wasting time with rubberbands just gives you cold fingers.
That can be mostly true in many cases, but when the really big fish are keyed into 2.5-4 lb bait, multi hook rigs are necessary. One can be embarrassed at times, running WI sized 12-16" suckers on certain waters over there. I never believed it could happen, until it did, a number of years ago.
Edited by Reef Hawg 7/28/2014 11:30 AM
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| Yea, we use 16-22 inch suckers here. Can't get away with just using 1 hook on those. |
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Location: Minnesota | The easiest way I have found is to solder a small single hook on the shank of the treble but with the hook facing the opposite direction - just hook that small hook under the scales and it doesn't slide out easily.
I like the safety pin idea on a split ring too - I might try that one.
I have never had luck with rubber bands and suckers. My hands are already wet and frozen and dealing with rubber bands was too much. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | brmusky - 7/30/2014 9:39 AM
The easiest way I have found is to solder a small single hook on the shank of the treble but with the hook facing the opposite direction - just hook that small hook under the scales and it doesn't slide out easily.
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That seems to work best for us too. We tie the small(#6 or #8 Aberdeen or wire hook) with bucktail/fly tying thread, then glue, which can be done in the boat in a pinch. |
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| Northwind Mark - 7/28/2014 11:21 AM
Actually you should be casting anyway. Sucker fishing, like trolling, is cheating.
Ha, ha...there is a guy within our group that swears up and down every year that sucker fishing is cheating. I think mainly b/c he is too lazy to rig up and tend to the sucker, etc. I always respond with: "How did Jesus do it then?" |
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Rigging a sucker - an idea