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Location: Alsip, IL | Anyone switch from aluminum boat to a fiberglass boat and notice a difference in the effectiveness of their figure 8's? I got 4 fish to go in the 8 this week. This may not sound significant to some of you but I had only boated maybe 5 in my life in the figure 8 prior to this. Just curious I guess. Definitely gets my blood pumping to see those fish smash my lure right at my feet, I'm hoping the new boat will keep the stats up in that category. |
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| What kind of switch did you make? Are you comparing the deck height (distance off the water)? Did the aluminum deck sit lower from the rail guard? What type of difference are you referring to? The type of material shouldn't make much difference. Just curious to what type of change in deck, etc. was really made. Where are you feet located now compared to where they were located before? Just curious.
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Location: Alsip, IL | Well I went from a 14 foot deep v. Had a full casting deck and I felt like I was still doing proper 8's even from that small boat. I went to a fiberglass bass boat. A stratos 176xt specifically. I've seen that people say aluminum is much noisier in the water when you move in the boat. Just shocked that the first week I take a new boat out I had that much success with figure 8's, considering it's usually a rare occasion when I get one to go boat side. I'm definitely lower to the water, and way more room to move on the bow, also this boat doesn't lean when I get over the edge to figure 8. My last boat definitely did. I was just curious to people's response on the matter. Maybe I'm just finally getting better at figure 8's after all this practice. |
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Location: MN | Just steppin' up your game with the new rig. Or it could very we'll be the additional room and the fact it is lower to the water. |
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Location: Almond, WI | I'd bet it's more coincidence than anything. Only real difference is how low in the water the platform is, and on my aluminum boat it's at about the same level as most glass boats I've been in. If you're moving enough to make noise it doesn't matter what kind of hull you have, you're moving way to much and the fish can see it and hear it. |
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Location: N Illinois | I'd say I have had better boat side success out of fiberglass boats. My theory has been the aluminum transfer more sound and spooks the fish. No scientific facts, just personal observation. |
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| A more stable boat will transfer less movement into the water...so less fish spooking movement of the boat and also less pushing of water which can spook them for sure. |
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| You shouldn't be making any movements with your feet when you have fish coming in. That noise or sudden movements are the quickest way to spook a fish. I've seen a lot of fish turn away due to people with happy feet in both aluminum and fiberglass boats. |
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| Glass is great, but if you like your aluminum, just buy a long rod. |
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| To be clear I am refering to the stability of the boat as it relates to the boat shifting while doing the eight not moving your feet. As the boat moves it will push pulses of water which the fish will sense and may react to as it would from audible noices transmited thru the hull as well. |
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Location: Almond, WI | I have to question that for one big reason: isn't the trolling motor making more noise than the hull? It's actually audible above the surface, water amplifies. Trolling motor doesn't seem to bother them most the time (seeing the boat, whatever the hull, does), not to mention prop wash trolling, or the people that use their stereo while fishing and still catch fish. In short I don't think noise bothers them too much except when it's isolated and loud, a boat hull drifting is neither of those--just another ambient noise and underwater is full of those. |
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| I observed a few things when I did a lot of bowishing on how vibrations can spook fish. The biggest thing with a trolling motor was consistency. When Im within 30 yards of a carp that's sitting still. I would spook them most of the time when I changed direction or speed I figured it was because I was changing the vibration being put out by the trolling motor. When I wouldn't change anything I can get closer most of the time and get a shot before they spooked. I feel it can make a difference on a lazy or neutral follow.
Moving my feet or making any sudden body movement has spooked a lot of muskies for me in the past because my boat shifts or throughs out a different vibration. My boat is a 14 ft deep v so there's not much to dampen the vibratons.
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Location: MN | bturg - 7/5/2014 10:48 PM
A more stable boat will transfer less movement into the water...so less fish spooking movement of the boat and also less pushing of water which can spook them for sure.
This is what I was thinking. I definitely notice the boat move slightly when you bend your body to get good depth on the eight. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | The thing I notice most is drift. While looking down you may not realize it but the super AL boats generally will take less wind to get them drifting. So if you are off the TM and working a fish in the 8 this is another factor. Of course high sided boats catch more than low riders also. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | tyler k - 7/6/2014 10:33 AM
I have to question that for one big reason: isn't the trolling motor making more noise than the hull? It's actually audible above the surface, water amplifies. Trolling motor doesn't seem to bother them most the time (seeing the boat, whatever the hull, does), not to mention prop wash trolling, or the people that use their stereo while fishing and still catch fish. In short I don't think noise bothers them too much except when it's isolated and loud, a boat hull drifting is neither of those--just another ambient noise and underwater is full of those.
I have to agree with Hansen's opinion on this (to support Bturg). When the fish is approaching the boat the trolling motor is likely to be on constant, where as rocking the boat slightly could change what the fish feels, hears, sees right next to the boat.
Does all that make a difference? Not sure, but I could see that being a difference between glass an aluminum.
More than anything, I'd guess it's a coincidence. |
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| I have a glass boat and an aluminum boat that I musky fish out of. I have not noticed any difference between the two boats and figure 8s. I think doing a good 8, positioning the boat right, and not moving around alot during the 8 are the factors. I have many many 8 fish out of my aluminum boat. I also think glare from the sun makes a difference and low light makes a difference in how the fish hit during the 8. |
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Location: Tennessee | I'd say just coincidence as well, I've had more success going from a Stratos to a welded jet rig at getting follows to the boat |
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Location: Alsip, IL | Yea I'm beginning to think it was coincidence myself. Sure was exciting though. And as for happy feet during my 8's it's not that I intend to move while I'm going into my 8 but when I'm leaning on my pedestal seat watching my sonar and all of the sudden I notice the shadow of a fish behind my bucktail I naturally get up for a more efficient and wider 8 rather than Stay leaning on the seat with my foot on the pedal. I have to imagine I'm not the only guy that trolls the weedlines and casts simultaneously, sometimes you just gotta move your feet a little to get into position. |
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| Neither boats make a difference for me, since I still havent got one in the 8 yet.. Once they see my face they all take off. |
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figure 8's from aluminum vs glass