Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie
Slamr
Posted 4/16/2014 12:24 PM (#707144)
Subject: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Looking to tie up some leaders for trolling. I do not like to play around with crimping tools and will just tie a good clinch knot...looking in the 50-70lb range, either fluro or hard mono...

Suggestions?

ShutUpNFish
Posted 4/16/2014 12:38 PM (#707146 - in reply to #707144)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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Location: Money, PA
I have used TripleFish, Berkley Vanish and Ande Fluorocarbons...All of which have served me well. I use 80lb to 100lb and tie a surgeon's end loop at one end with a quality bearing swivel at the other with a Palomar knot...You'll need pliers to pull the tag end tightly....NEVER had one fail and they last a long time. My trolling leaders are no less than 36"

Hope this helps.

Note: Reason I don't tie anything but a Surgeon's loop at the top is so my lure retriever can easily slide over the loop in case I get snagged up.
curleytail
Posted 4/16/2014 2:00 PM (#707169 - in reply to #707144)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie




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Location: Hayward, WI
I tie 150 lb Seaguar Fluoro without any issues. I do use a crimp but I think more so to keep the tag end tidy, and just a little extra insurance. I tie a Centauri knot (this will tighten down snug to your snap or swivel rather than leave a loop if not crimped though). I also tried another knot - I think a perfection loop. I believe this one will not slip down tight if you were wanting to leave a loop, but it leaves the tag at a 90 degree angle so more likely to catch weeds if not using a crimp to stick it down to the main line.

Either of these knots would be very easy to tie in 100lb line being that 150 isn't bad. With some of the knicks I've had in 150, I'd be very nervous going below 100 lb myself.
Wade Alexander
Posted 4/16/2014 2:08 PM (#707173 - in reply to #707144)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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why not just use wire? AWF surflon 1x7 60-90lb, whatever you think you need... 2 turn no slip knot the swivel and clip, simple and easy to make up on the boat
jdsplasher
Posted 4/16/2014 5:18 PM (#707208 - in reply to #707173)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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Location: SE, WI.

Slamr. AFW has a real nice coated 49 strand in 40 and 65 lb test. Ties up real nice!!!

JD 

Masqui-ninja
Posted 4/16/2014 7:05 PM (#707226 - in reply to #707208)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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Location: Walker, MN
You can tie up to 80# flouro using an (figure 8 knot) if you practice a few times. Secure the terminal end to a nail or something and synch down with a pliers on the tag.
muskyrat
Posted 4/16/2014 7:09 PM (#707227 - in reply to #707226)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie




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The figure 8 is closest to 100#. Used that knot many times rock climbing.
muskyrat
Posted 4/16/2014 7:13 PM (#707229 - in reply to #707227)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie




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100% Knot strength was what I meant to say.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 4/16/2014 8:17 PM (#707236 - in reply to #707229)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie





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Location: Walker, MN
I just realized that there are a lot of bad youtube videos of the figure 8 knot. If you are interested in this knot I think that this is the best way to tie it.

http://www.intheriffle.com/fishing-videos/knots/figure-eight-tarpon...

vegas492
Posted 4/17/2014 8:16 AM (#707304 - in reply to #707144)
Subject: Re: Leader Material - Trolling - Need to Be Able To Hand-tie




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I tie 100 pound Seaguar and Berkley vanish with a blood knot. I've tied as high as 150 pound with that knot as well. It works best if you have another set of hands around to hold the bait (while in the boat), but that knot clinches down on itself.