Plastics
BALDY
Posted 3/6/2003 2:26 PM (#62657)
Subject: Plastics




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Besides the old stadby twistertails and reapers, what kind of plastics are some of you throwing when jig fishing? I am looking to make it a larger part of my arsenal this year.

Thanks -

Baldy
Krappie
Posted 3/6/2003 5:19 PM (#62689 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





Posts: 419


Location: Appleton, WI
Hi Baldy, I think you'll see a large growth in this type of bait for muskies in the coming future. More and more baits are coming out that use soft plastics. Musky Innovation's Bulldawg, Shallow and Deep Invader are some examples that are becoming a staple in everyone's tacklebox. Live action (Big Joe) is also another large rubber creature style baits that guys casting and trolling have been using. Castiac makes a Jerkswim bait along with some hybrid crankbaits that resemble bait fish quite realistically. Optimum baits are the latest, and Storm has come out with some Wildeye Shads in the 9" variety(they also have a 6"). MuskyE, a gentleman on this board, is coming out with a glider style rubber bait that should also be a big winner. Rubber baits are growing in leaps in bounds in the musky world and it's for good reason. They just flat out catch fish.

I think the next question is: "What are the different techniques that most guys are using with the different arrays of rubber baits?" I think you'll see some innovative ideas on how to approach plastic baits in the near future. Just think how some professional bass fisherman are pushing the limits on using plastics. That's the beauty of rubber baits there is no wrong in fishing them because of the built in action.

catch ya later,
Krappie

Edited by Krappie 3/6/2003 8:57 PM
Beaver
Posted 3/6/2003 6:28 PM (#62698 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





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Personally I have had good results throwing a 6" waterdog just like the bass boys throw.
Beav
MuskieBum
Posted 3/6/2003 7:07 PM (#62718 - in reply to #62698)
Subject: RE: Plastics




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Beaver,
what have you found to be the best situations to throw those waterdogs and what type of jig are you using? do you just jig them or do you twich em at all? Thanks
Set it and Foget it
MuskieE
Posted 3/6/2003 7:17 PM (#62719 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





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Location: Appleton,WI
I like the 7" water dogs with a swimhead jig or a dimaond jig head,or a flaptail.
muskiekid
Posted 3/7/2003 5:21 AM (#62754 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics




Posts: 585


Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
I use 5" tube baits. This are actually Bass baits, but I've caught some good ones on them. I'm also going to try out "swim baits" this year. The big bass-guys out in California have had good lunck with these in the deep, clear reservoirs out there. Bass up to 20 lbs have been caught on them. I'm convinced that they will work on Muskies. The swimbaits that I have look a lot like minnows and are 6" long.
Luca Cattin
Posted 3/7/2003 11:34 AM (#62810 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





Posts: 66


Location: Padova - Italy
I fishing a lot with jigs and plastic baits for pike. As jigs I use my own made “Gator Bug”, a big bucktail jig with a single or double tail trailer grub like 6’’ Kalins Mogambo, 8’’ Berkley Power Grub, 8’’ Action Plastics or 8’’ swirl tail grub (with a tail similar to Bull Dawg tail), depends of situations.
Pitch this baits near cover or structures with a 7’6’’- 2 oz. flipping stick (spinning or casting, I prefer casting) and 60-80 pound super line and let free fall to the bottom with semi-tight line. Then retrieve the bait straight (swimming), with long pull or jerk, or lift and fall. For me, the key of this game is to be versatile.
A bass angler may frequently switch to other plastic baits and presentation during one day until to find the right pattern.
As bass angler myself I’ve learned from this high specialized world of fishing and apply the same things for pike.
With jigs and other soft baits a little change in color, shape and style of retrieve can make big difference in results.
The same things I do with bucktail jigs I can do when fishing with other plastics, generally big tube baits, shad baits and soft jerkbaits like 7’’ and 10’’ Lunker City Fin-s-Fish.
Tube baits have much more versatility than all other baits I know.
Shad baits have a great reputation in Europe waters for big fish and some days these are the typical “go to” baits.
Speaking about Fin-s-fish I like to use its with a light ¼ oz. “rotate jig head” (own made) with eye upright and 7/0 hook in one side of the bait. Then fix a treble hook with 5’’ of wire at the eye of jig, and hook this treble in the other flank of bait imparting a little curve. Find the right cadence of retrieve so you can obtain more action from this baits than most other hard jerkbaits. And pike simply love ‘em. I really think musky too.

…”That's the beauty of rubber baits there is no wrong in fishing them because of the built in action”.
I agree with you Krappie.
Sorry for language.

Luca - Italy
Krappie
Posted 3/7/2003 11:51 AM (#62812 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





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Location: Appleton, WI
Luca Cattin,
It's good to see some guys from the "other side of the pond", responding on techniques that they use to pursue pike with. It's input from folks such as Divini and yourself that really add another element to musky/pike fishing. There's been some very innovative ideas that have made their way into the North American Sportfishing, and much of that has come from Europe. I really love reading some of the information that our European friends post because I always learn something new. In fact, I'm very impressed on how well you guys write and express your thoughts... Better than myself.

catch ya later,
Krappie

Edited by Krappie 3/7/2003 11:52 AM
rpieske
Posted 3/7/2003 4:02 PM (#62848 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





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Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON
There are a whole range of plastic baits to use with jigs in the salt water arena. I started a couple of years ago buying shad type bodies and other fish style bodies from salt water shops in Florida. There are a number of them available from BassPro's saltwater stocks. I have had good success early in the season in emerging weeds. I plan to use them more extensively this year in other types of structure.

Edited by rpieske 3/8/2003 4:45 PM
Luca Cattin
Posted 3/8/2003 9:31 AM (#62917 - in reply to #62657)
Subject: RE: Plastics





Posts: 66


Location: Padova - Italy
Thank you Shawn, nice to hear from kind fishermen like you.
Hope that encourage more “old world” pike fishermen to post in this great muskie/pike board.
Luca