How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???
BTPF
Posted 3/4/2003 4:56 PM (#62365)
Subject: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 78


Location: Pardeeville, WI
What if you were guiding someone and they wanted to keep a fish?
What if you were guiding two people and they wanted to keep 2 fish?

I would never keep a fish unless it was a potential World Record but
I have some friends who just dont understand Catch and Release.

They always say if they catch anything big its coming home with them no
matter what. I try to explain to them there are replicas that look better but they just cannot fathom throwing a big fish back.

Makes no sense to me?
Musky Fever
Posted 3/4/2003 6:59 PM (#62378 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Location: Illinois-Indiana
BTPF,

I advertise 100% catch & release, but you still can run into problems from time to time. If a client wants to keep a fish and it is legal, there is not much you can do about it except try and talk them out of it.
If it's a record then I would be more willing to let them keep it.
chad cain
Posted 3/4/2003 7:15 PM (#62381 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 184


I run a 100% catch and release guide service. I have never had one kept out of my boat, and I plan on keeping it that way. If we catch a state record, I will put it in my livewell, call the biologist, have him come verify it as a new state record, and let it go.

If I lose a couple of guide trips a year because people don't want to go unless they can keep one, then so be it. I am not in this business to kill fish on purpose!!

That is just my 2 cents!

Chad
[email protected]
Slamr
Posted 3/5/2003 1:27 AM (#62420 - in reply to #62381)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 7049


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I don't guide for money (coffee, no longer smokes) but I do fish with a lot of different people in my boat. I TRY to remember to make a few things certain in their minds: 100% release, the exceptions being state and world records. Though I am 99.999999999999999999999% certain I will never have to worry about these issues, I do like to raise a few eyebrows of those exposed to me in the boat for the first time, bystating that I will bonk the %&$*# out of that fat girl if she does get in the boat, if she is the state record. Cool thing will be that since I don't carry a net (my hands show the scars, but only from netted fish, strange) it'll probably have to be while I fish with Theedz, he's a cop ya know...."that wasn't a GUNSHOT you heard, it was us jumping up and down in excitement!!! And the fish? She came that way, funny lookin hole isn't it?"

Slamr
Trophymuskie
Posted 3/5/2003 7:22 AM (#62425 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 1430


Location: Eastern Ontario
I am a 100% C&R guide and my clients know it. No one ever keeped one and no one will in my boat. Now a world record may be the only exception to my rule. Now someone said if the client decided he wanted to keep it nothing could be done other then ask for imediate release, well I am the captain of my ship and if one client would even try to bonk one of my girls he would find himself released on the spot, if I see that he can't swim i'll throw him a life jacket before I leave.
darcyfish
Posted 3/5/2003 12:14 PM (#62457 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 119


Location: Sioux Narrows
My service is stricly catch and release and also i guide on Lake of the Woods so with a 54" minimum there is not alot of times that this will become a issue. In this day and age with the replica's being as good as they are why kill a fish that has taken 20 years to get to a mounting size? Let them go, let them grow.

D'arcy Finlan
Darcy's Guide Service
www.darcyfish.com/Musky.html
Oneida Esox
Posted 3/5/2003 6:44 PM (#62501 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???


I advertise 100% catch and release and that is how intend to keep it. I would rather pay the difference in the cost of a replica compared to a skin mount than have someone keep a fish. These fish are simply to rare to have guides keeping them. God bless.

John
Oneida Esox Guide Service
www.oneidaesox.com
muskyone
Posted 3/6/2003 7:01 AM (#62553 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 1536


Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin
Ditto, to what has been said.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 3/6/2003 1:52 PM (#62649 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I go along with what has been said in the above posts, a few of my cliens last year asked me what would be the size musky that you would let me keep, I told them if you can beat my best release you can keep the fish. With that said I don't think I will run into a problem on my waters. The fish in the pic to the left is my personal best release muskie. I have two replacas in my house, just can't see killing a fish with the quality mounts made today from pictures and measurments. I have showed clients and friends the mounts, almost hard to believe they are not real, two of my clients had replacas made last year from fish caught in my boat, CPR works---Let them go-let them grow!!!
Mark H.
Posted 3/6/2003 7:37 PM (#62721 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 1936


Location: Eau Claire, WI
It has never come up in my boat, I run 100% CPR trips. It's advertised on my website and I make sure they understand that when they book the trip. Now in the of the "pie in the sky" day that a new world record graces my line that might be a different story but anything short of that goes back to fight another day.

strike_zone
Posted 3/7/2003 11:03 AM (#62807 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 132


Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
I also advertise very clearly that I am 100% catch & release, with the exception of a potential Provincial or Canadian record. I have and will continue to pass up on potential business where clients specifically tell me in advance, that their intention is to kill a fish.

Steve Wickens
STRIKE ZONE Muskie Charters
Scott Jenkins
Posted 3/9/2003 12:51 AM (#63007 - in reply to #62807)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 355


Location: Silver Lake, WI
100% release out of my boat as well.

Graphite reproductions have come a long way and look awesome now. This makes it much easier because clients can get a great looking mount and know that the fish is still swimming out there getting BIGGER!

In 12 years, I have never had a client even question it.
Benfishin
Posted 3/12/2003 12:10 PM (#63480 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 19


Location: Menomonie, WI
This is from the two guys, who evidently can not "fathom" catch and release'. We both wholeheartedly believe in catch and release. Neither one of us have ever kept any musky we have ever caught. However all we said is that if we caught a fish 55" or bigger we would probable CONSIDER keeping the fish. Not that no matter what it's getting thrown in the boat. It's hard to say what would happen considering NONE of our group has ever even caught a legal musky let alone a giant. Just our 2 cents worth.

Ben

Edited by Benfishin 3/12/2003 2:16 PM
Mikes Extreme
Posted 3/14/2003 2:25 PM (#63742 - in reply to #63480)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Ben,
The more you fish the more you will want to see your fish swim away. Also the bigger they are the more impressive they are, this is a respect thing for me. A fish that I catch that is over the 50 inch mark always will go back, its a honor to catch a fish that big and would like to see someone else catch her and feel the same thrill that I just did. Letting a trophy go gets you more respect than killing them. Repros are the future. I have let two monster go and got reproductions of both, they look just like when I caught them. You will see when the time comes, think about it, she will be there when you come back to fish for her again, that in its self is a motivater.

Posted 3/16/2003 3:34 AM (#63867 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???


I run a Muskie Charter on the Ottawa river , I advertise as a catch photo and release only charter . I have found if you you are straight forward with your clients and explain why you so strongley support the catch and release programs 99.9% will copleatly understand . This iis why we need to support such consevation clubs like Muskies Canada, Muskies Inc. Through public education this will ensure our fishery for years to come
Let em Go Let them Grow
Kert Lavigne
[email protected]
guideman
Posted 3/16/2003 7:47 PM (#63910 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 376


Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN
I just love to watch them swim away!
There are NO keepers in my boat!
Luca Cattin
Posted 3/17/2003 3:20 AM (#63944 - in reply to #62365)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???





Posts: 66


Location: Padova - Italy
Hi all,
I guide in Italy for pike, largemouth bass and wels catfish and throughout Europe for pike, only with lures.
Just specify in my program list this words: Absolutely no kill.
Simply I take out clients if they accept this terms. No problems at all.

Luca C.
Big Fish Mania
Tackle Shop – Custom lures – Guide service
[email protected]
Benfishin
Posted 3/17/2003 12:38 PM (#63996 - in reply to #63944)
Subject: RE: How do guides feel about clients keeping fish???




Posts: 19


Location: Menomonie, WI
I agree with everything everyone has said in the previous replys. I just wanted to let everyone know that what was said is that I would have to THINK about keeping a giant,(55+) but most likely I would let her go to be caught another day.

Ben