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Location: South Central Wisconsin | Ok. My interest is peaked in building my own. I would like to make some 80# to start. Then maybe some 130#. What brand is the best and what size crimps would I need? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6lN9FEHao |
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | : / |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | search 80# fluoro for background, or just pop some popcorn and wait … the hounds will find you LOL |
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| why not just start with the 130? |
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | Ronix - 3/19/2014 5:49 PM
why not just start with the 130? I'd like to go a little lighter this spring. The smaller baits seem to lose a little action with heavier leaders. |
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Location: New Jersey | I don't trust crimps. I make fluoro leaders with a Centauri knot and a drop of Super Glue. There's a good YouTube video of a guy with an accent making the knot with chartreuse rope. That's all the tutorial I needed. With 80 you can pretty much tie a Palomar. |
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Location: Madison, WI | I would use HI-SEAS or Seagaur for flouro, if you want to use crimes go to the stealth tackle website and it tells you which ones to order for what size line. Make sure you get a quality swag tool for double barrel crimps |
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| http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html
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Location: Sussex, NJ | I use Seaguar and have never had a crimp fail on me |
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Location: Contrarian Island | i buy / use both Yo Zuri and Seaguar...buy it on ebay.... i use 180.. double barrel sleeves crimped.. solid. |
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Location: Walker, MN | If you don't already have one, I will throw in a recommendation for the Jinkai Sanyo Star Crimping (swaging) tool. Solid tool. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I tie this knot:
http://leetauchen.com/lees_leader_knot.pdf
I don't snug the knot down tight to the snap like the link shows though.
I use 150 lb and find it easy to tie, just need to use enough of a tag end to make all the loops and still get the tag through them. I finish with a double barrel crimp, mostly to clean up the tag end and help keep the loop from closing up. If the loop does close, it wouldn't be a problem, it would just be harder to change the snap out.
Without getting into the politics too much, I'd be nervous about using 80 pound Fluoro. It doesn't happen often, but I've had a few slices in the 150 that if I was using 80, would have made me very nervous. I'm even thinking about using 175 or 180 when my 150 runs out.
If I was using small baits that needed more movement, I'd just use a 174# wire leader, which are very easy to make, and very easy to make lightweight with using only solid rings and a split ring if wanted. |
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| I like the Climax fluorocarbon the best in 120lb. I use the Lee Tauchen knot, which is easy to tie with a little practice. I dont use and trust crimps though. IMO the Seaguar is the most invisible in water but is way too soft and the muskie will bite through it unless using 130 lb and up. The climax is designed to be used as bite material and is harder. Ive also had good luck with the pink YoZuri flourocarbon. |
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Location: Thief River Falls MN | Masqui-ninja - 3/21/2014 7:07 AM
If you don't already have one, I will throw in a recommendation for the Jinkai Sanyo Star Crimping (swaging) tool. Solid tool.
I use the Jinkai S2-2C crimpling pliers with their LI sleeves for 130# fluoro and have great results. On the Pull tests I have performed, basically the staylock snap would start distorting with serious pressure. When the connection did fail it was at the point where the snap contacted the leader material. Never tried the smaller diameter but I am sure the results would be similar..
Takes about 2 minutes to crank out a high quality leader. Usually use High Seas quattro and Seagur Blue Lable fluoro. |
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| Seaguar 200 lb tied with nail knot, no crimps, no issues for me. Easy to tie with a nail knot tool. |
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Flourocarbon...