Looking for a 1st motor boat
SixOught
Posted 3/6/2014 10:10 PM (#696901)
Subject: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
I've fished out of drift boats, jons, and kayaks for a long time. Occasionally out of of a regular boat, but never really out of one that I was entirely fond of. But I'm finally in a position where I can afford a new motor boat. Don't necessarily need, or even want something brand new. I just want something simple, that can handle the waters around Hayward, WI. I won't be fishing anything like ML or Leech.

A little about me... I fly fish only. Muskies, bass and pike. The reason I mention this is that I like a relatively clear front/back casting area to avoid catching line.

I generally fish alone, or with one other guy. If there are three of us, we'll head to the rivers with a drift boat.

I would like to keep this purchase in the $10,000 range if possible.

I have no brand preference whatsoever.

And lastly, I need to be able to pull it with a 2013 Escape with the 2.0 Ecoboost. So something on the lighter side is definitely a must.


Any suggestions on boats I should look at?




Edited by SixOught 3/6/2014 10:11 PM
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/7/2014 7:03 AM (#696929 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 2337


Location: Chisholm, MN
I have a crestliner fishawk. Very nice and open casting decks and I'm sure you can find a used one in that price range. It's a multispecies boat that sits a little more like a bass boat than a typical walleye boat would.
eightweight
Posted 3/7/2014 8:02 AM (#696948 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 209


I also flyfish a lot , I am lloiking into two boats completely different, the first a Clackacrft or Clackamax with a small motor no more than 10 hp "honda" the 16 footers weigh less than 300 # the Clackamax with a motor is less than #600 witjh a motor. the other one is a Lund Alaskan 20 footer approx 90 hp motor will weigh more but the drift should fit your needs well.

Bill
Shep
Posted 3/7/2014 8:22 AM (#696959 - in reply to #696948)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





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Try to find a used Tuffy Esox Magnum tiller. They are out there. Perfect for where and how you fish.
Clammer
Posted 3/7/2014 8:45 AM (#696963 - in reply to #696959)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 667


Location: Wisconsin
Shep - 3/7/2014 8:22 AM

Try to find a used Tuffy Esox Magnum tiller. They are out there. Perfect for where and how you fish.


That Tuffy sounds like a the exact fit for you! Sweet setup.
Clammer
Posted 3/7/2014 8:51 AM (#696964 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 667


Location: Wisconsin
There is a nice Esox Mag on the Boat ads right now at $12900, maybe he would come down some and get closer to your figure. He says best offer?? That thing is set up and good to go.
2009 Tuffy Esox Mag
2009 60 HP SUZUKI FOUR STROKE,
2009 TUFF TRAIL TRAILER NEW TIRES AND BEARINGS,
HUMMINBIRD 858 BOW,
HUMMINBIRD 998 BACK,
MINNKOTA 24 VOLT I-PILOT BOW
$12,900.00 B/O
eightweight
Posted 3/7/2014 12:27 PM (#697031 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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Clammer your the go to man for anything in Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!
Yooper Padre
Posted 3/7/2014 12:46 PM (#697039 - in reply to #696964)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 337


Location: Watersmeet, Michigan
Clammer - 3/7/2014 8:51 AM
2009 Tuffy Esox Mag
2009 60 HP SUZUKI FOUR STROKE,


Great price and a nice boat, but that 60 hp. is the manufacturer's minimum recommended engine. With a couple guys, fuel, and gear will it have enough power to bring it up on plane?

Fr. K
PJV
Posted 3/7/2014 3:16 PM (#697082 - in reply to #697039)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Actually,

I believe 60 hp is the max rating for the tiller version of the boat. 135 is the max rating for a console version.
Cal
Posted 3/7/2014 3:16 PM (#697083 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 177


Location: ON
Its 900lbs dry hull, a 60 4 stroke will motor that boat along just fine.



eightweight
Posted 3/7/2014 4:14 PM (#697112 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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I thought it would weigh more?
sworrall
Posted 3/7/2014 4:59 PM (#697138 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 32895


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
60 HP is the max one can put on an Esox Magnum T, and Guides have been using that hull for years fishing two clients with no issues regarding speed or hole shot. The minimum is recommended HP on a MagT is 40.

And no, the Esox Mag doesn't weigh more than the listed weight.
muskyrat
Posted 3/7/2014 5:27 PM (#697156 - in reply to #697138)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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That boat would be perfect for fly fishing.
Clammer
Posted 3/7/2014 6:23 PM (#697175 - in reply to #697031)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 667


Location: Wisconsin
eightweight - 3/7/2014 12:27 PM

Clammer your the go to man for anything in Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!


I don't think so eight, but thanks for the thought!
Actually I was just looking at the boat ads page and doing a bit of dreaming. I had just seen that rig and thought it was a steal. Then read about SixOught's (the OP) wish list, and then Shep's suggestion, and...well that boat was in my mind perfect as well!!


Edited by Clammer 3/7/2014 6:25 PM
SixOught
Posted 3/7/2014 7:52 PM (#697226 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
Thanks a bunch guys! i appreciate the input. I'll have to make a call to that Tuffy seller from the boat ads. I'd actually thought that might be a decent option as well, but wanted to see what you guys had to say. It looks like a really nice little boat for sure.

Any other specific models come to mind if that Tuffy doesn't work out?
Trophyseeker50
Posted 3/7/2014 8:36 PM (#697239 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 791


Location: WI
You might also look at a modified v. Set up like a bass boat and usually at a good price.
SixOught
Posted 3/8/2014 11:10 AM (#697362 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
Okay, on the topic of a modified v setup. What's the deal with Trackers? As far as new boats go, they're about as cheap as you can get. I'm of the mind that you get what you pay for, and would really like to not get into something that I'm going to lose a bunch of money on right out of the gate. If buying a higher quality used boat is what it takes, then I'm all for it. What are some concerns I should have if I do decide to look at Trackers and similar boats though?
Trophyseeker50
Posted 3/8/2014 12:43 PM (#697388 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 791


Location: WI
I saw a crest liner mod vlast year at one of the tourneys we do that was really set up well. That started me thinking that might be the kind of boat I would buy to leave up in vilas rather than trailering my deep v back and forth. As for tracker, I have a few friends that have them and swear by them. Only bad thing I have heard is the tundras had a tendency to crack in the transom area. But those were a different style hull than any thing else out there.
SixOught
Posted 3/8/2014 7:52 PM (#697477 - in reply to #697388)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
Trophyseeker50 - 3/8/2014 12:43 PM

I saw a crest liner mod vlast year at one of the tourneys we do that was really set up well. That started me thinking that might be the kind of boat I would buy to leave up in vilas rather than trailering my deep v back and forth. As for tracker, I have a few friends that have them and swear by them. Only bad thing I have heard is the tundras had a tendency to crack in the transom area. But those were a different style hull than any thing else out there.




There is, or was, a Crestliner mod-v for sale locally here. I looked it at a few months ago, but decided to hold off on buying it. It was a simple boat, with a 20hp (maybe 25) 2 stroke. Seemed like it would fit my needs pretty well. The owner had a casting platform built into it which was nice. The only thing I wasn't sure about was the motor. Wouldn't I want something a bit larger for a boat that size? That was really my only issue with that boat though, and perhaps it was unfounded.
sworrall
Posted 3/8/2014 8:00 PM (#697478 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Stability of the platform is a major plus when fly fishing. Look at an Esox LTD if you want price, stability, and platform. Perfect fly fishing boat for less money.
Trophyseeker50
Posted 3/9/2014 1:19 AM (#697518 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





Posts: 791


Location: WI
The crest liner I saw was a pretty sweet rig. Fully carpeted with front and back decks factory. Single console. Big wide and with a 60hp merc. Looked brand new.

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mosquitofogger
Posted 3/9/2014 8:53 AM (#697543 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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an older 690 ranger is the ticket u can do anything u want with it
eightweight
Posted 3/9/2014 9:13 AM (#697548 - in reply to #697175)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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Clammer :

referring to the esox with the 60 hp

?
Clammer - 3/7/2014 6:23 PM

eightweight - 3/7/2014 12:27 PM

Clammer your the go to man for anything in Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!


I don't think so eight, but thanks for the thought!
Actually I was just looking at the boat ads page and doing a bit of dreaming. I had just seen that rig and thought it was a steal. Then read about SixOught's (the OP) wish list, and then Shep's suggestion, and...well that boat was in my mind perfect as well!!
Clammer
Posted 3/9/2014 9:39 AM (#697567 - in reply to #697548)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 667


Location: Wisconsin
eightweight - 3/9/2014 9:13 AM

Clammer :

referring to the esox with the 60 hp

?
Clammer - 3/7/2014 6:23 PM

eightweight - 3/7/2014 12:27 PM

Clammer your the go to man for anything in Wisconsin!!!!!!!!!


I don't think so eight, but thanks for the thought!
Actually I was just looking at the boat ads page and doing a bit of dreaming. I had just seen that rig and thought it was a steal. Then read about SixOught's (the OP) wish list, and then Shep's suggestion, and...well that boat was in my mind perfect as well!!


HA!! No referring to the "man for anything Wisconsin" line.
As for the Tuffy, that is a great rig, and at only 800lbs that 60 will do just dandy!
SixOught
Posted 3/9/2014 6:17 PM (#697706 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
In case anyone was wondering, that 09' Tuffy Esox Mag is actually sold. Bummer, I would have been extremely interested in that boat. I'll keep my eyes peeled for another one to pop up in the coming months.


I also really like that Crestliner Mod V. I don't see any used ones sitting around out there though. Another boat I'll have to keep my eyes open for.
VMS
Posted 3/10/2014 11:40 AM (#697922 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Check Craigslist Minneapolis.

There is an older tuffy tiller with a 60 johnson on the back the other day when I looked. Not sure of the condition of things, but at least a link to check.

Steve
tswoboda
Posted 3/10/2014 7:37 PM (#698060 - in reply to #697543)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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SixOught - 3/6/2014 10:10 PM

And lastly, I need to be able to pull it with a 2013 Escape with the 2.0 Ecoboost. So something on the lighter side is definitely a must.



mosquitofogger - 3/9/2014 8:53 AM

an older 690 ranger is the ticket u can do anything u want with it


Good Call!
ranger618
Posted 3/10/2014 9:08 PM (#698100 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




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Your Escape can tow up to 3500#, which would be almost any boat on a single axle trailer.
If it was me with 10K to spend on a boat I would look for a nice used Crestliner Fish Hawk or Pro Tiller. With a 4-stroke Suzuki or Yamaha. Remember that you may need to add a trolling motor and depth finder, so don't spend the whole budget on the boat.
I also recommend going to a boat show and checking out all the different boats and features.

SixOught
Posted 3/11/2014 12:19 AM (#698151 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
Thanks guys. I found that Tuffy on Craigslist thank to a few recommendations here. Definitely going to make a call about it.

I feel that the factory towing numbers are a bit skewed. I'm sure the vehicle could do it, but the stress might be more than I'd be willing to put on the car on a regular basis. If I can find a boat in the 1500 pound or less range, I'd feel much more comfortable about it.

There are a lot of good suggestions getting thrown my way, and I appreciate all of them. Thanks again guys.
cphilli
Posted 3/11/2014 2:43 PM (#698330 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: RE: Looking for a 1st motor boat





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3 good choices - I prefer rear trolling motor for fly fishing

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/4354771579.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/bod/4332201196.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bod/4352919442.html

Take out the front seat - fly rod heaven
SixOught
Posted 3/17/2014 10:46 PM (#700184 - in reply to #696901)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 1st motor boat




Posts: 25


Location: NW Wisconsin
I hope you guys don't mind me just building on this thread. I am curious if you guys find that the iPilot systems are worth the extra money. Does the system work with any GPS/Locator or is it linked to the mapping chip?

When I first started looking, I hadn't really given the electronics much of a thought. But the more research I do into this the more interested I become. I especially like the fact that I could keep the foot pedal out of my way when I'm on the casting deck and just use the remote. My past experiences with foot pedals have mostly been frustrating.

Edited by SixOught 3/17/2014 10:48 PM