Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???
cast4musky
Posted 3/1/2014 11:10 PM (#695250)
Subject: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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This reel looks like it would be absolutely the Bomb for Double 10's and 13's Why is ths reel not that popular?? It is Salwater safe and seems to have everything that is required and great pricing... Does the Manual engaging turn off everyone. I tried one the other day and was very Impressed. It was worn in and lubed and oiled and casted great .....BIG STRONG GEARS ON HIS REEL..
Why is this not a top seller????????????????
Saltist STTLW20HA.
Dual Anti-Reverse systems, Dual-position power handle

Wt. (oz.) 18.5
Line retrieve each turn 35"
Line Capacity
Gear Ratio 6.1 : 1
(Lb. Test / Yards) 12/420, 14/350, 20/210, BRAID: 40/260, 50/200

Drag 15.4 lbs Super Drag with up to 22 pounds of drag max, Up to 30% greater winding power

Bearings- 4CRBB, 1RB
bigdogg2278
Posted 3/1/2014 11:22 PM (#695251 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




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No spool brake so its a backlash machine, that's the main reason I sold mine other then that yea its good
dami0101
Posted 3/1/2014 11:30 PM (#695255 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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The new black ones actually auto engage after the first turn of the handle. The saltist is a really good reel, but the main drawback, and the only reason I ended up getting rid of mine, is the lack of a spool brake. You need to have a well trained thumb to not be consistently getting backlashes with lighter or less aerodynamic baits.
TC MUSKIE
Posted 3/1/2014 11:33 PM (#695256 - in reply to #695255)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




Location: Minneapolis
I don't know why it isn't as popular as the other reels out there. Sure, the reel may backlash more than other casting-friendly reels, but after 2 seasons with mine it's a non-issue for me.
IAJustin
Posted 3/2/2014 12:29 AM (#695259 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




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i like mine for big rubber.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 12:44 AM (#695261 - in reply to #695250)
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Hmmmmmm Backlashes I remember them Not Fun...lol the reel looks great aside from that I guess a big Drawback.
allegheny river kid
Posted 3/2/2014 7:00 AM (#695277 - in reply to #695250)
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I have one and its a nice reel. I also have a tranx pg, night and day difference with double 10s. Tranx is the reel deal
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/2/2014 7:07 AM (#695278 - in reply to #695277)
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Its all I use for blades and I love it.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 7:28 AM (#695281 - in reply to #695250)
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That's what I heard a fellow in my club said it actually has more power than the Tranx and is a lighter, he said his brings in his Double 10's like they are Mepps bucktails effortless....I always thumbed my full sized Abu Garcias just a habit I guess. This reel sounds like its worth a shot. Sr.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 7:34 AM (#695283 - in reply to #695250)
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allegheny river kid Just wondering what makes a night and day difference.? aside from above mentioned backlashes.

you posted
(I have one and its a nice reel. I also have a tranx pg, night and day difference with double 10s. Tranx is the reel deal)
dami0101
Posted 3/2/2014 8:20 AM (#695300 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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To the Saltist being lighter than the Tranx, while that's true, it's only 1 oz lighter, not that big of a difference. I also thumb my spool every cast, but there are times where my thumb isn't enough, especially if you're casting into the wind with crankbaits or unweighted flashabou blades; I actually stopped buying cowgirls and started having custom weighted ones made so I wouldn't backlash as much. Marabou was rarely a problem, I was throwing a double 8 marabou into the wind and didn't have any problems. As for plastics, regular dawgs and up, I believe I only had 1 or 2 backlashes the entire season. I've never tried a Tranx before but I have a hard time believing the Saltist brings in blades as easy as a Tranx PG will. I would not say it was effortless to bring in double 10's.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 8:40 AM (#695306 - in reply to #695250)
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Your Right "Effortless" was the wrong word, But he said it had more power and was easier to reel them in? As soon as this weather breaks I will find out for sure. Seems like the people that use them really like them. It is only 1 1/2 ounces lighter hey but every ounce counts.
dami0101
Posted 3/2/2014 8:53 AM (#695307 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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It possibly easier than a Tranx HG which has a gear ratio of 6.6:1 vs the Saltists 6.1:1 but I'm going to call shenanigans on the claim that it's easier then the tranx PG at 4.6:1. I guess I will also find out this year as I just got rid of my saltist and I plan to purchase as Tranx PG to replace it. If all I was doing was throwing plastics then I would say the saltist is the best value out there, but as I will also be throwing blades and cranks on the same setup, unfortunately the lack of a spool break just lead to too many backlashes for my favor last year.
allegheny river kid
Posted 3/2/2014 9:01 AM (#695310 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




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To me the Saltist isn't a reel that has the power to make big blades easy to retrieve for long periods of time. I got wore out in a short amount of time trying to burn them. Backlashes were a huge issue, now if you get a lure in the 4 to 5oz range or heavier the reel had little backlash problems. The tranx requires little effort ton ones arm and hands to retrieve big blades at fast speeds for longer periods of time and adjustable spool brakes. Now for throwing rubber and picking up line quick the saltist performs a little better then tranx from the stand point that it picks up more line per turn of the handle, and with little resistantance of rubber because the rod is generally doing the work and the reel just picking up the slack.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 9:41 AM (#695316 - in reply to #695250)
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So Your saying "The tranx requires little effort on ones arm and hands to retrieve big blades at fast speeds for longer periods of time" Why would that be, the Saltist is little lighter in weight, and has larger Gears so it brings in more line per turn so it seems you would not have to be cranking as fast to burn it in? It is understood it does have backlashes if not thumbed properly.... But I would think that the Tranx would not be a picnic bringing in big blades for long periods of time either..... Thanks for your Opinion it is really appreciated...... I am only going by hearsay so I will have to find out first had in a few weeks.........LOL Thanks Guys Mike

I guess I'll have to Buy one of these
FAT-SKI
Posted 3/2/2014 12:53 PM (#695355 - in reply to #695256)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




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TC MUSKIE - 3/1/2014 11:33 PM

I don't know why it isn't as popular as the other reels out there. Sure, the reel may backlash more than other casting-friendly reels, but after 2 seasons with mine it's a non-issue for me.


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Exactly what I was thinking when I was reading the original post. +1 from me
IAJustin
Posted 3/2/2014 2:13 PM (#695377 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???




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there is no comparison to a Saltist vs Tranx PG for power... and PG is just as fast (considerably larger spool than a 20) .. again is WAY more powerful.. makes 10's and 13's effortless, a "picnic" to fish them

Have the saltist, along with about 14 other reels, saltist would be way down near the bottom of the list for throwing 10's!
dami0101
Posted 3/2/2014 2:19 PM (#695382 - in reply to #695316)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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cast4musky - 3/2/2014 9:41 AM

So Your saying "The tranx requires little effort on ones arm and hands to retrieve big blades at fast speeds for longer periods of time" Why would that be, the Saltist is little lighter in weight, and has larger Gears so it brings in more line per turn so it seems you would not have to be cranking as fast to burn it in? It is understood it does have backlashes if not thumbed properly.... But I would think that the Tranx would not be a picnic bringing in big blades for long periods of time either..... Thanks for your Opinion it is really appreciated...... I am only going by hearsay so I will have to find out first had in a few weeks.........LOL Thanks Guys Mike

I guess I'll have to Buy one of these


You don't need to crank a Saltist as fast as a a Tranx PG to bring in the 35 IPT, but you are putting in more effort to get those 35 IPT. The Tranx actually has very large gears. Let's compare it to the Toro Winch, another 4.6:1 reel, but it only brings in 22 IPT, 8 IPT less then the grand of the same gear ratio.

Also, even with proper thumbing you are still going to run into more backlash issues due to the lack of the spool brake. As I said before, I thumb my spool all the time, regardless of if the reel has a brake or not, and for every 1 backlash I would get on my 400b, I was getting about 10 on my Saltist until I started throwing weighted flashabou or marabou blades, then it was more like 3 saltist backlashes to 1 400B backlash. I believe it was Pikemaster that said no thumb, regardless of how well trained, is going to be as good as a spool brake.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 2:42 PM (#695389 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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I will find out for myself in a few weeks when I do a fair Comparison, on the Tranx PG, a Lexa 400 6/1, and a Saltist 20. All on the same rod all with the exact same braid on it and casting in the same direction against the wind with a Double 10. I will then know how the reels really perform and stack up against each other............... Mike
IAJustin
Posted 3/2/2014 2:45 PM (#695390 - in reply to #695389)
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Good luck its already been done.
cast4musky
Posted 3/2/2014 6:11 PM (#695439 - in reply to #695250)
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I think the fact that it has no brakes could be a major disadvantage, and really be a problem thanks
Mr Musky
Posted 3/2/2014 8:56 PM (#695490 - in reply to #695250)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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All they would've had to do was put a level wind on the Trinidad's and spool brakes on the saltists and you'd have the ultimate Musky reels!!
dami0101
Posted 3/2/2014 11:12 PM (#695524 - in reply to #695490)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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Mr Musky - 3/2/2014 8:56 PM

All they would've had to do was put a level wind on the Trinidad's and spool brakes on the saltists and you'd have the ultimate Musky reels!!


Exactly. If the Saltist had a spool brake I would have never sold mine.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 3/3/2014 7:41 AM (#695557 - in reply to #695389)
Subject: Re: Why Not A Saltist STTLW20HA. REEL ???





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cast4musky - 3/2/2014 2:42 PM

I will find out for myself in a few weeks when I do a fair Comparison, on the Tranx PG, a Lexa 400 6/1, and a Saltist 20. All on the same rod all with the exact same braid on it and casting in the same direction against the wind with a Double 10. I will then know how the reels really perform and stack up against each other............... Mike

Please do report back
I want to hear what U think, about the TRANX and the Lexa 400 in 6 gears.