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| Im getting a bigger boat and looking to hit the biggest fish that exist, im lookin at buffalo harbor, im from nj, so i know its a fall thing, i just want to know how many rods per man, how deep are these fish usually holding, are they on the bait or suspended? Also if someone could square or triangulate the harbor for me by towns i would really appreciate it, i will most likely be solo as my buddys are lame and wanna stay local always, but im looking for a fish that doesnt exist in nj, ill fish 5 days sunup to sundown for one rip |
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| The Harbor is not as good as it once was. Lot of theories on water temps or whatever. Go to the St. Lawrence it`s closer. Still may take five long days to get a rip if you know what your doing. If not longer. |
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| Muskyrat is right, what was once a world class fishery is now extremely tough, there are still some big ones, but you really have to put the hours in for them, we are talking like a whole fall season for a few fish. I believe the fish are usually suspended around bait, mostly shad which seem to come in about november, although there have been some very large fish caught on opener aswell. Legend plows, perchbaits, frankybaits seem to be the baits to use. i fish the river not the harbour but know alot of guys who do. If you re still interested it would probably be best to sign up with the niagara musky association, you can find out lot of info on there website aswell as talking to members at their monthly meetings. I believe Capt Larry Jones is on this site, the harbour is his forte although i believe he stopped guiding there last year, he still maybe able to give you some info. |
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| Maybe chautauqua fall? |
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| There are still big fish caught out of the harbor every season, they're just not as stacked up in there like they used to be. Guys are so hell-bent on trolling the south gap and all the other same spots they've been hammering since the early 90s that they forget there is a ton of other stuff to fish out there as well. |
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| Well the fish in Chatauqua are slightly larger than the fish in N.J. but if you want to try for a big one the St. Lawrence is the place. There are other places if you want to drive farther or fish Canada but nothing will have bigger fish potential than the St. Lawrence. Don`t expect them to bite as easy as N.J. |
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| I cant speak for the harbor, but I have a buddy who guides on Chautauqua, Todd Young, the number of fish he boats out of that lake is incredible, he also gets a good mix of big fish too. It is a very underrated lake. |
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| Well I would agree catching fish on Chatauqua will be much easier than on the St. Lawrence and you have a good shot at a 50". I almost don`t even consider fishing the St. Lawrence muskie fishing. It`s more like a sight seeing vacation and if you get one that's great. They do get big though and it`s hard to get bored with all the water to troll. |
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| Thanks guys |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | muskyrat - 2/22/2014 9:21 AM
Well I would agree catching fish on Chatauqua will be much easier than on the St. Lawrence and you have a good shot at a 50". I almost don`t even consider fishing the St. Lawrence muskie fishing. It`s more like a sight seeing vacation and if you get one that's great. They do get big though and it`s hard to get bored with all the water to troll.
What area do you fish? |
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| I fish the 1000 islands area once in while but only a few days a year. I have got some fish. |
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| Ronix - 2/21/2014 11:52 AM
There are still big fish caught out of the harbor every season, they're just not as stacked up in there like they used to be. Guys are so hell-bent on trolling the south gap and all the other same spots they've been hammering since the early 90s that they forget there is a ton of other stuff to fish out there as well.
Besides all the other spots in the harbor what is there? The rest of Lake Erie? I hear theres big fish in pa and ohio too, should he try there? He asked about the harbor. Have you ever even fished it? That's an actual question. The harbor is over 4 miles long, there's a good amount of stuff to fish.
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| Anyways, statewide regulations as far as rods per man, most of the harbor is 24-30 feet deep, after the water gets below 45 degrees when most guys fish it, grind the bottom with crankbaits going 1.5-3.5 mph, plows, frankys, Ernie's, hookers, perchbaits, mr toothys. Before then, look for the heaviest current seams you can find and fish the whole column looking for bait clouds and adjust depth accordingly. The closer you get to the river, the shallower it will become, be careful out in front of the river as there are shoals that eat boats every year because guys don't realize how much current there is and how shallow it gets. The harbor stretches from just west of the buffalo river in buffalo, through south buffalo to the south and into Lackawanna just north of the windmills. Rt 5 runs right by the harbor. Check out mostlymuskies.com. Capt Larry jones spills his guts on that forum, lots of good advice from a guy that fishes it more than anyone else probably.
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| Unfortunately Larry is no longer guiding there and his site is deleted. Too bad, there was alot of good info on there. |
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| That's news to me, I knew he was primarily fishing Chautauqua... thought he just retired recently and was going to be guiding more. Its a shame the website is gone. Good luck to him in the future. |
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| He is guiding in Guyana. Pretty sure he still guides on Chautauqua. As long as he doesn`t drink the cool aid. |
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