Posted 2/18/2014 11:15 AM (#692315 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 785
That's how my set up is but I have noticed some guys that walk to the other end of the boat to measure and release a fish. Seems highly unnecessary but I guess if they're quick about it not much harm done.
Posted 2/18/2014 11:29 AM (#692320 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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If you're efficient about it, it's just a matter of net, unhook, lift, snapshot, bump board, and back in the water off the other side of the boat. Fish out of water 30 seconds or less.
Posted 2/18/2014 11:42 AM (#692321 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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If I shuffle my feet and rotate from the gunnel to the back deck is that considered a step?
BenR
Posted 2/18/2014 11:49 AM (#692323 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
I don't think a shuffle is technically a step, it would depend on if your feet lost contact with the floor. I might start moon walking the fish to avoid, a transgression of "stepping". BR
Posted 2/18/2014 12:01 PM (#692326 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 697
Location: Minnetonka
You can do whatever you want with a muskie, but if you want to be "efficient"...
BenR
Posted 2/18/2014 12:04 PM (#692328 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Yes, if you want to be efficient, skip the photos and bump board. If you want to include those steps, probably best to lay off giving people a hard time for taking steps with a fish...
Posted 2/18/2014 12:25 PM (#692337 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Location: Sawyer County, WI
I'm all for taking proper care when handling a fish once it has hit the net but I'm beginning to see a trend of commentary in a number of recent threads that has me thinking it won't be long before I get criticized for using barbed hooks.
Formation of the charter chapter of Self-righteous Fisherman for the Coddling of Muskies (SFCM) can't be far off !
Posted 2/18/2014 12:28 PM (#692339 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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I prefer to lose them at the boat. Saves all the trouble of hooks tangled in the net, slimy hands, and cameras. Added benefit is you can get right back to casting.
Posted 2/18/2014 12:40 PM (#692343 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 483
Location: NE PA
I'm all for protecting the resource, but some of this is a bit overboard lately IMO. Maybe we should just buy scuba gear so the fish never come out of the water, and a camera so they never have to be hooked.
Posted 2/18/2014 12:48 PM (#692345 - in reply to #692343) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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Location: minocqua, wi.
lennyg3 - 2/18/2014 12:40 PM
I'm all for protecting the resource, but some of this is a bit overboard lately IMO. Maybe we should just buy scuba gear so the fish never come out of the water, and a camera so they never have to be hooked.
exactly!! why not drag em around the boat a few times …
Posted 2/18/2014 1:08 PM (#692351 - in reply to #692320) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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Location: minocqua, wi.
esoxaddict - 2/18/2014 11:29 AM
If you're efficient about it, it's just a matter of net, unhook, lift, snapshot, bump board, and back in the water off the other side of the boat. Fish out of water 30 seconds or less.
why off the other side of the boat? is the water wetter on the other side?
Posted 2/18/2014 1:14 PM (#692352 - in reply to #692345) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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Location: NE PA
jonnysled - 2/18/2014 1:48 PM
lennyg3 - 2/18/2014 12:40 PM
I'm all for protecting the resource, but some of this is a bit overboard lately IMO. Maybe we should just buy scuba gear so the fish never come out of the water, and a camera so they never have to be hooked.
exactly!! why not drag em around the boat a few times …
I still stand that some of this/these posts are over the top. Is a certain amount of common sense, preparation and organization necessary for the health of the fish? Absolutely. But if you are truly that concerned skip the measurement, use a go pro for video instead of pulling the fish from the water, and switch to barbless hooks.
Posted 2/18/2014 1:21 PM (#692354 - in reply to #692352) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 13688
Location: minocqua, wi.
who said anyone was concerned? it's simply a statement supported by some video of others who are like-minded and support efficiency of handling fish, critical i'd argue with really big fish and something some anglers focus on, others want to learn from and then there are guys like you.
if you don't want to learn anything then don't. if you already know everything then i get it … you are officially the tallest midget.
Posted 2/18/2014 1:23 PM (#692355 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 116
Everyone states that is hard on the fish to hold it vertically and I agree. I never hold mine vertical and release them headfirst;however I see all of the releases on the tv shows are done by holding the fish vertical over the side of the boat and slowly let them enter the water. What is the difference between vertical in the boat and vertical over the side of the boat? Makes no sense.
Posted 2/18/2014 1:51 PM (#692360 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Location: Eastern Ontario
Every fish is different and treated accordingly. Some are shaken off at boatside, some throw the hooks in the net, some the hooks are easily removed, some have to be removed from the net and a jaw spreader used and cutting and hook removal done deep in the throat or through the gills. Some times I have a partner to assist sometimes I'm alone. In every situation I do the best I can.
Posted 2/18/2014 2:13 PM (#692366 - in reply to #692351) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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jonnysled - 2/18/2014 1:08 PM
esoxaddict - 2/18/2014 11:29 AM
If you're efficient about it, it's just a matter of net, unhook, lift, snapshot, bump board, and back in the water off the other side of the boat. Fish out of water 30 seconds or less.
why off the other side of the boat? is the water wetter on the other side?
Just as wet. But there's usually a net, a rod, a lure and bunch of tools lying about on the side where the fish was netted. Mostly, it's because I hold my fish left handed, and it's quicker and easier to just put them back in the direction they are already facing.
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Posted 2/18/2014 3:05 PM (#692380 - in reply to #692354) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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Location: NE PA
jonnysled - 2/18/2014 2:21 PM
who said anyone was concerned? it's simply a statement supported by some video of others who are like-minded and support efficiency of handling fish, critical i'd argue with really big fish and something some anglers focus on, others want to learn from and then there are guys like you.
if you don't want to learn anything then don't. if you already know everything then i get it … you are officially the tallest midget.
There are plenty of guys like me. Guys who are concerned with the resource, are conscious of how they handle fish and the amount of time the fish spends out of water. Each situation is different and should be treated as such. Warm temperatures should dictate that a fish spends less time out of water than cold temps. It has nothing to do with the number of steps taken in the boat. If your OP would have been more informative it might have been received better.
The real important things to take from this thread:
• Minimize the time out of water for the fish. The fish should be kept out of water no longer than you could hold your breath, and less time with warm temperatures.
• After netting your fish, leave the fish in the water/net and assess what needs to be done to keep the stress on the fish to a minimum. If the fish is hooked hard don’t wrestle with a pair of pliers trying to save a hook. Cut the hooks (and have spares).
• If the fish is bleeding, skip the measurement/photo and get the fish back in the water. It’s a better memory to know you released a giant and not know how big than having a measurement of a fish that died boatside.
• Wet the bump board down before pulling the fish out of the water for the measurement. The slime coat on the fish protects them.
• Have proper tools to unhook a fish. Good quality knipex cutters, preferably with a lasso around the handle so they don’t fall in the drink. Long handle pliers. Jaw spreaders.
• Don’t push and pull the fish back and forth upon release. Hold the fish upright and he will go when ready. If the fish doesn’t swim down and out of sight, follow it until it does.
Posted 2/18/2014 3:52 PM (#692389 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 151
Location: Chippewa Falls, WI
without coming across as a smart @$%... or creating hard feelings amongst guys sitting infront of a computer in the middle of Febuary...who love musky fishing enough to spend countless hours typing posts on an internet forum dedicated to musky fishing alone... LETS JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS.... READY FOR THIS...IT'S A FISH!!
Yes a fish that we all enjoy fishing for to the point that others refer to it as an illness. Seriously though, they are not to be worshipped. Nobody that spends time chasing ski's wants to kill one. Yes there are steps to take to limit the risk of unintentionally killing one. But there is WAY too much criticism about how each guy fishes for or handles a fish after catching them. Education is great, it can make a difference. However, when it comes across as a lecture and judgemental it does the opposite. (even if it was well intended)
I know..preachin' to the wrong congregation here but as much as I like about this site/forum...I feel like keeping what I do to myself along with the videos and pics I take, instead of opening myself up to all the criticism.
Posted 2/18/2014 5:28 PM (#692402 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Location: Eastern Ontario
Mike I like your thinking that's how I'll keep my world record fish alive till I get it on a scale in the presence of John Cassleman , the mayor and police chief of Gananoque a priest, minister, and rabibi.
Posted 2/18/2014 8:42 PM (#692460 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 3518
Location: north central wisconsin
I prefer to twizzle my way to the other side of the boat with the fish. If done in Charlie/Merle unison with the camerman, a couple great photos can be captured, while quickly presenting the fish to all other boats/property owners on the lake.
Posted 2/18/2014 9:07 PM (#692470 - in reply to #692302) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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I don`t know about traveling but I had a client spike one like a football. Apparently he saw Jimmy Houston do it on TV fishing LSC. One of the guides who does not stop his boat for fish came up with it I guess. He was so proud he knew how to release a muskie lol.
Posted 2/18/2014 9:28 PM (#692475 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 574
Instead of going through all the work of the net, photo release you could always try what I like to do..
Wait till your partners fish is boatside and ready to be netted..
Make sure to hold the extra netting so it doesn't get in the way, or catch on the hooks somehow..
Now in a quick stabbing motion poke that fish right in between the eyes with the hoop of the net..
The fish WILL freak out..
Partner will freak out more..
Alot of the time after this technique you don't even have to net, photo, or release that fish..
Posted 2/18/2014 9:44 PM (#692478 - in reply to #692470) Subject: RE: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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muskyrat - 2/18/2014 9:07 PM
I don`t know about traveling but I had a client spike one like a football. Apparently he saw Jimmy Houston do it on TV fishing LSC. One of the guides who does not stop his boat for fish came up with it I guess. He was so proud he knew how to release a muskie lol.
Posted 2/19/2014 6:07 AM (#692510 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 293
Location: Oconomowoc, WI
Take your time and enjoy the moment. Keep the fish's head in the water, open a beer, exchange some high fives. There's so much time, effort and money involved with getting that fish in the net, why not take some time to smell the roses?
I'm all for protecting the resource, but it's still just a fish and lucky to even get a second chance. Had they hatched 40 years ago they'd have gotten thumped immediately.
I think there are some folks on this site who think they could run 400 yds without taking a step...
Posted 2/19/2014 2:22 PM (#692567 - in reply to #692302) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 20278
Location: oswego, il
If you don't moon walk with the fish to the bump board you have no business musky fishing.
with that said however I am going to mount one of those stair chair assists to the beam rail of my boat and travel with the fish to its needed stations that way. Might have to gear it for speed.
Posted 2/19/2014 10:48 PM (#692700 - in reply to #692510) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
Posts: 688
Location: Northern IL
oconesox - 2/19/2014 6:07 AM
Take your time and enjoy the moment. Keep the fish's head in the water, open a beer, exchange some high fives. There's so much time, effort and money involved with getting that fish in the net, why not take some time to smell the roses?
I think there are some folks on this site who think they could run 400 yds without taking a step...
Posted 2/20/2014 7:40 PM (#692915 - in reply to #692339) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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esoxaddict - 2/18/2014 12:28 PM
I prefer to lose them at the boat. Saves all the trouble of hooks tangled in the net, slimy hands, and cameras. Added benefit is you can get right back to casting.
^^^^^^^i here ya, and its always a new personal best everytime I lose one.
Posted 2/21/2014 6:53 AM (#692984 - in reply to #692915) Subject: Re: catch/net/measure/photo/release
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Brozz88 - 2/20/2014 7:40 PM
esoxaddict - 2/18/2014 12:28 PM
I prefer to lose them at the boat. Saves all the trouble of hooks tangled in the net, slimy hands, and cameras. Added benefit is you can get right back to casting.
^^^^^^^i here ya, and its always a new personal best everytime I lose one.
Try keeping your rod tip down and you might land a few more fish...
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