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| The 7:1 brings in 37" per turn. If you can get 2 turns per second, that's a little over 4 mph. That would allow the same lure movement as speed trolling, as long as the baits are light enough to not over power the reel with drag from their action. I would think this would work well with Wileys or other dart and dash type baits. Beyond this possible advantage, is there another good reason to step up to that high a ratio?
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Location: Minnesota | I don't know if the reel could handel it but I use a hg tranx for big rubber, riping big rubber to pick up line fast |
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| I just picked up a 5.1 for my larger baits it still should move pretty good |
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| There is a seller on eBay that sells them for less than 200. 7.1 was close to 185. For what I have spent on other stuff, I figure these are very inexpensive and decided to try out a couple of them to see what I like. Can always swap the gears out. |
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Location: Wisconsin | I think the 6.3 and the 5.1 are the most versatile of the three models available. I don't think the 7.1 would have the power to bring in baits that have any resistance in the water. Not saying it would not work but i think it would only work for some applications. It is not a reel I would consider buying. I will be picking up a 5.1 as soon as the local muskie shop gets them in. |
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| Just got my New 400 Lexa in a 6/1 I love it ...I have used Diawas 300 with the 6/1 and 5/1 speeds and love the both of them...I honestly am not a 6/1 reel fan but I think this is going to be the REAL DEAL for us left Handers..I"m sure this will be a Great reel for the Double tens and other baits that need a quick line pick up..
IMO this reel fits on the average Musky Rod Better than the Tranx..It actually feels a lot lighter and it"s really not...It feels like it has a better balance,and weight Distribution and the xtra Lg Paddle Handles feel great and I can turn it faster than the Tranx Power handle. For me personally I do not feel that Comfortable turning those Extra Large Power Handles Fast, It just seems alot easier and smoother for me with the Larger Paddle Handles.. I just Love it... At $189.99 What a Reel When the 5/1 is out I"m grabbing one of them also... I Think this Large spooled 6/1 will work without reeling as fast as you can...... Mike |
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| Bummer that the 5.1 doesn't come in lefty. do you believe they are coming soon? I got a 7.1 and 6.3, might as well have a matched set! |
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| I'm sure they will have the 5/1 gears, or the Reel Itself may be out by Summer I Hope..... |
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| Sounds to me like the 6:3 is the best overall choice for power and decent speed |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Mr Musky - 2/3/2014 1:12 PM
Sounds to me like the 6:3 is the best overall choice for power and decent speed
6.3 will give you alot more then a 7.1 |
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Location: Contrarian Island | what about for an application such as dawgs where the more line pick up the better? I use a Toro 6.4 to 1 now and would think the Lexa 7.1 would be the cats azzz for even more line pick up....
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| agree. would be great for gliders and small cranks. I also burn plastics along the jetties in salt water and I could generate real speed, since there is little drag. That said, the 6.3:1 shipped today. If these take the market by storm, maybe I'll pick up a used Toro winch as people dump them. |
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Location: MN | I"m sure this will be a Great reel for the Double tens and other baits that need a quick line pick
I don't see how the 6.3 will work very well for double tens, just like the 6.4 Revo or any of the other hi speed reels that have been tried in the past, but will be interesting to see what the consensus is after several of them have been tried. |
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Location: Aurora | Opinion - The 400 is low pro & fairly comfy in-hand for straight reeling but too large to palm comfortably while controlling jerks & gliders. I was thinking the 300 might fit the palm better for the jerk/glide app but now i'm thinking the new Okuma Komodo 350. 11 Bearings, 6.4/1 & built like a tank is the feedback on them thus far.
Interesting & exciting to have new reel choices for $200 or less fer shore! |
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Location: NE PA | I'm thinking a 400 Lexa in the 5.1 for blades, and a 300 Lexa in the 7.1, or as mentiuoned above the Okuma Komodo for my Jerks/gliders would be a good way to go. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | BNelson - 2/3/2014 6:11 PM
what about for an application such as dawgs where the more line pick up the better? I use a Toro 6.4 to 1 now and would think the Lexa 7.1 would be the cats azzz for even more line pick up....
Yes Great for Line pickup but I wonder about cranking power ????? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Tranx HG is 6.6 to 1 and 43" per crank... Lexa is 7.1 w 37" per crank, why would they be so drastically different in "cranking power".. I have no problem getting 30 lb fish to the boat w the tranx...I have a hard time believing I wouldn't be able to w a Lexa 7.1.... |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | BNelson - 2/4/2014 1:32 PM
Tranx HG is 6.6 to 1 and 43" per crank... Lexa is 7.1 w 37" per crank, why would they be so drastically different in "cranking power".. I have no problem getting 30 lb fish to the boat w the tranx...I have a hard time believing I wouldn't be able to w a Lexa 7.1....
The size of the spool and the dia of the pinion and the Tranx is 30-40% bigger and that is what gives the Tranx the power to bring in DCG with a 6.6:1 |
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| Are we also talking mega torque with the 6:3 then too Pikemaster? |
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| the amount of resistance felt when reeling in a lure has no relationship to how the reel performs when fighting a muskie.
when fighting muskies a high-speed retrieve helps you maintain line tension; it's actually the low-speed "power" reels that allow fish to more easily get slack line and shake off because you aren't able to pick up line fast enough when it runs at the boat or whatnot. i fight fish with the rod, the reel is just keeping the line tight. i definitely don't "winch" them in with the reel. or maybe i'm the oddball?
for example, the Curado 300 EJ has a 6.9:1 gear ratio and 32"/crank. it's significantly smaller than the Lexa and/or the Tranx in size/weight/diameter. in spite of that, somehow it's managed just fine for me when fighting large muskies, so i'm sure the Lexa will do well too. match the reel to the lures being used...
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Location: Planet Meltdown | Sidejack - 2/3/2014 11:19 PM
Opinion - The 400 is low pro & fairly comfy in-hand for straight reeling but too large to palm comfortably while controlling jerks & gliders. I was thinking the 300 might fit the palm better for the jerk/glide app but now i'm thinking the new Okuma Komodo 350. 11 Bearings, 6.4/1 & built like a tank is the feedback on them thus far.
Interesting & exciting to have new reel choices for $200 or less fer shore!
I just picked up a Okuma Komodo 350 and plan on using it for Jerk / glide baits. My initial thoughts on the reel without using it on the water yet are that it feel solid as can be. It's not a smooth as my Revo Toro 60 or Curado but it feels really good in my hand. It's not quite as wide as my Revo but wider than a Curado. I like palming my reel for working jerk baits and I think this reel will work out good. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Mr Musky - 2/5/2014 8:48 PM
Are we also talking mega torque with the 6:3 then too Pikemaster?
I would't say Mega Torque but alot more then the 7.1 gears.
I like craking power over line pickup but to each there own.
When fighting a fish I will crank in the fish with the reel, if U can't then how are U going to get line back on the reel ???? by pumping the rod and reeling down, and slack line could happen doing that. That is why U never see a trolling reel in gears over 5.1 , most are 4.1 so U can crank in the fish. |
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| When fighting a fish I will crank in the fish with the reel, if U can't then how are U going to get line back on the reel ???? by pumping the rod and reeling down, and slack line could happen doing that.
everyone has a technique...my experience is that once hooked i don't lose too many fish, and most of the fish that i have lost occurred due to poor rod discipline while cranking with the reel. i don't like pumping the rod either (although a lot of big saltwater fish get caught by guys doing so). for me, keeping the line tight is key, especially when the fish charges the boat. a fast reel makes this much easier, so as long as the reel can handle the lures i want to throw, faster is almost always better when dealing with a big muskie.
fish tend to swim around during the fight, so i just guide them with the rod rather than trying to crank them straight in. i use the rod to get them moving the way i want them to go...which most often ends up being sideways and slightly towards the boat. this makes it easier to control the fish with tight line by reeling and working them closer to the net.
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| Okay i'll word it this way, does the 6:3 have enough cranking power to burn 10's in all day at 33" per crank and not burn you out? Not concerned with fighting the fish. Im wondering if the 6:3 is comparable to my TE 700 which is 31" per crank and pull 10's in like rooster tails. Thats what I want to know. Thanks! |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Mr Musky - 2/6/2014 11:20 AM
Okay i'll word it this way, does the 6:3 have enough cranking power to burn 10's in all day at 33" per crank and not burn you out? Not concerned with fighting the fish. Im wondering if the 6:3 is comparable to my TE 700 which is 31" per crank and pull 10's in like rooster tails. Thats what I want to know. Thanks!
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Location: Madison, WI | That is also my main concern, pulling in 10s all day without my arm falling off. Im thinking the 6:3 would be perfect. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Honestly if you want to throw 10's all day I would go with the 5.1 not the 6.3. I find it easier to crank faster with less resistance than to crank slower with harder cranking. I have a 6.4 nacl and don't think it works very well with blades IMO. For a rubber reel I think it would work great. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | call me crazy and I haven't tried one yet, but I don't see the Lexa being the same type of animal as the Tranx... can the 5.1 reel in 10s at 'normal' speeds, I'm sure it can, but from the sounds and looks of it the Tranx will still be top dog burning 10s all day... |
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Location: MN | No way the 6.3 does tens very easily at all |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | The Calcutta 700 TE, Tranx and the Trinidad reels are in whole different class of reels then the Lexa. |
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| ???? We'll find out soon...... I had the 300 Lexa and used it for 10's last year It wasnn't easy but did an OK job, I would have liked it a little easier to reel in hour after hour. But the 6/1 still was easier to use on 10;s than the Revo Toro 6/1 that was terrible, and the 5/1 was ok but to slow ...I really think the 400 6/1 will be ok Im lefty so there is no 5/1 yet......I just bought 2 400 lexas I guess I will find out in a few months ..Mike |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | cast4musky - 2/7/2014 9:22 PM
???? We'll find out soon...... I had the 300 Lexa and used it for 10's last year It wasnn't easy but did an OK job, I would have liked it a little easier to reel in hour after hour. But the 6/1 still was easier to use on 10;s than the Revo Toro 6/1 that was terrible, and the 5/1 was ok but to slow ...I really think the 400 6/1 will be ok Im lefty so there is no 5/1 yet......I just bought 2 400 lexas I guess I will find out in a few months ..Mike
Mike: I have the lexa 400 in right hand with 5.1gears and the power handle, which is one of the longest on any reel sold toay. If U got your 6 gears with the power handle that combo should be OK, that power handle will help out alot. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | On my Lexa 400 I replaced the plastic bushing that supports the drive shaft on the right side of the reel frame, under the cast controll knb with a ABEC 5 S.Steel bearing and I can feel the difference in smoothest on the retrieve. I also added a another Drag washer to the stack and this reel has some stopping power. I'm trying to add 2 bearings to the level wind system but that will take some time and work to get done which I done have the time now to mess with. |
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Location: Madison, WI | I think the big problem alot of people have is buying a reel for only one purpose. Me personally I throw blades alot and after using a tranx I believe it is the reel for me. I throw lots of mag sized rubber too and I can only imagine the tranx is great for that too. other than that I have my toro nacl's for everything else. My only concern is whether or not the 6.3:1 daiwa is a close second but half the price and slightly smaller too. |
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Location: MN | PIKEMASTER - 2/7/2014 9:46 PM
On my Lexa 400 ... I also added a another Drag washer to the stack and this reel has some stopping power.
Richard, did you add a fiber washer and an additional metal washer to the stack in order to keep them alternated, or just double up two fibers in a row? If the latter, where (what position) did you add it? |
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| PIKEMASTER - 2/7/2014 9:46 PM
On my Lexa 400 I replaced the plastic bushing that supports the drive shaft on the right side of the reel frame, under the cast controll knb with a ABEC 5 S.Steel bearing and I can feel the difference in smoothest on the retrieve. I also added a another Drag washer to the stack and this reel has some stopping power. I'm trying to add 2 bearings to the level wind system but that will take some time and work to get done which I done have the time now to mess with.
Can you replace the plastic bushing on the 300 as well? Thanks |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Propster - 2/16/2014 9:01 PM
PIKEMASTER - 2/7/2014 9:46 PM
On my Lexa 400 ... I also added a another Drag washer to the stack and this reel has some stopping power.
Richard, did you add a fiber washer and an additional metal washer to the stack in order to keep them alternated, or just double up two fibers in a row? If the latter, where (what position ) did you add it?
NO I added one inside of the main drag washer and replaced the top metal washer with a flat one. Hard to explain. |
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Location: Okoboji | has anyone out there owned and used a tranx and a 400? they seem like the same size when i held the 400, i had two tranx and sold em cause they where tanks...seems like the same bag to me. |
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Lexa 400 7.1:1, 6.3:1 or 5:1:1? opinions wanted