foul weather clothing
wifixit
Posted 11/29/2013 2:13 PM (#676263)
Subject: foul weather clothing




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Hi new guy here looking for your thoughts on what type of clothing you guy`s use for when the weather get cold in the fall of the year or in the rain when your out fishing
Woodie
Posted 11/29/2013 2:31 PM (#676267 - in reply to #676263)
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Can you let us know where you are geographically. Cold weather can mean radically different things depending on your location.
Cody
Posted 11/29/2013 2:46 PM (#676270 - in reply to #676263)
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Mustang Survival or Helly Hansen both good cold weather gear I also have Ice Armor Gear good also
honkermusky
Posted 11/29/2013 2:56 PM (#676276 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County
the black frabil ice suit. im yet to get cold in any weather while wearing it.
esoxaddict
Posted 11/29/2013 3:06 PM (#676277 - in reply to #676263)
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Layers. In a climate where it can start out in the 20's, warm up to near 60, and then back in the 20's by 5:00, you have to be able to regulate your temperature. Once you get sweaty you're in trouble when the temperature starts to drop in the afternoon.

I use the Polypro military surplus stuff as my base layer, jeans and a windproof hooded fleece over that, and insulated bibs and coat for the outer layer. I've got the Gander Guide Series insulated rain gear, which gives me the freedom to shed the outer layer of the coat if it warms up, and either wear the outer layer separate or just leave the heavier coat on. If it warms up some more, the coat comes off, and the bibs come off. I've been down to the base layers on exceptionally warm fall days. Yes, you feel like an idiot standing there fishing in what is basically long underwear, but it's usually only an hour or so, and it's not like there's anybody on the lake to notice. As it cools off, jeans go back on, fleece goes back on, bibs go back on, and both coats go back on by the end of the day.

I'll carry a wool stocking cap to start and end the day. Between that and two hoods, you're pretty toasty. Again, having the freedom to add and remove layers is huge, especially of you're going back and forth between casting and live bait.

Waterproof boots are a must. I also carry several pairs of gloves. Neoprene with spare liners, fingerless wool gloves, and a beat up old pair of military issue fleece lined leather gloves with the wool inserts. Those are by far the warmest, but not waterproof at all.

We've pretty well mastered the changing of clothes throughout the day. As you take layers off, stuff them in a dry bag. The first thing you put back on is always on top.
LarryJones
Posted 11/29/2013 5:49 PM (#676309 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: On the Niagara River in Buffalo, NY
Mustang Survival Suit with fleece vest with hand warmer pockets under, snow packs, many pairs of gloves to stay in dry ones, extra hand warmers and Frog Toggs to go over Mustang Survival Suit if it rains.essoxadict, your layers will keep you warm, but if you end up in the water all those layers are taking you down!
4amuskie
Posted 11/30/2013 7:06 AM (#676349 - in reply to #676309)
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How about arctic armor? It floats too.
sworrall
Posted 11/30/2013 7:45 AM (#676355 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I wear a Frabill Ice Suit or Frabill Suit. Ice Suit for extreme cold, Frabill Suit for temps in the low 20's and above. A life vest should always be worn. If bulk bothers you get an inflatable.
Cody
Posted 11/30/2013 12:18 PM (#676392 - in reply to #676263)
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I agree Steve, PFD's a must. I wear a Mustang Survival inflatable year round. I can't swim as far as I used to and would rather be safe than sorry if a mishap happens. Things can happen so fast you might not have time to put one on after the mishap happens especially in cold water. Fell in the Allegheny River in November once amazing how quick you freeze up, learned my lesson !

Edited by Cody 11/30/2013 12:21 PM
Woodie
Posted 12/2/2013 7:53 AM (#676671 - in reply to #676263)
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I've often wondered what would happen if I went into the water with all of my cold weather gear on. The last outing of the year in November, I had on a mustang floatation bib, carhart winter jacket, all underneath my Helly survival suit. Would I float? - Face up or face down ? Would all the layers cause me to sink once they got wet? Could I climb back into the boat with all that gear on ?
I'm going to give it a try next summer. Controlled conditions in shallow water by the dock with help to get me out if things go wrong. Might make an interesting video.
LarryJones
Posted 12/2/2013 10:57 AM (#676695 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: On the Niagara River in Buffalo, NY
We do man overboard drills with the U.S. Coast Guard every year.With layers that absorb water you go down.Even to many layers under a Mustang Survival Suit can make you to heavy to get back into the boat.Inflatables are better then nothing but rapid body cooling will black you out in short time, survival suit gives you a few more minutes that may save your life.

Edited by LarryJones 12/2/2013 10:58 AM
clintv11
Posted 12/2/2013 12:17 PM (#676711 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: MPLS Metro
I like my Uninsulated Cabelas Extreme bibs. Some long johns, jeans, bibs and hoodie and I am toasty all the way through ice up. Kinda forced to go with the Cabelas bibs because nobody but Cabelas and Bass Pro brands have tall sizes, which worked out all right because they turned out to be great bibs. Being 6'5" the Frabills, Clams etc. were just too short. Hey Frabill, if your listening, YOU REALLY SHOULD MAKE TALLS!!!......its worth a shot.
Brad P
Posted 12/2/2013 10:18 PM (#676873 - in reply to #676263)
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UA Cold Gear as the base, both top and bottom. Then quality sweatpants and FXE Stormsuit Bibs (How cool are those bibs? great in the summer for rain gear, great in the fall with layers, awesome product.) on the legs. Generally I'll wear a nice fleece hoody, like a columbia or UA, followed by a high end windstopper fleece. This is very light weight stuff, but is great down to about 40 degrees. If it is below 40, I put on a standard vest type PFD. It doubles as excellent insulation, plus safety. Never been cold in that set up, plus it isn't at all bulky so can still get around the boat unencumbered.

happy hooker
Posted 12/3/2013 7:29 AM (#676891 - in reply to #676873)
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I didnt believe in this miracle fiber stuff for years all were disapointing
however
Columbia "Omni Heat" is amazing,,used it now for the third year and it does everything it claims,,if you get some get it in the midweight not heavy,,the heavy would be way too warm
nocturnalmotors
Posted 12/3/2013 10:02 AM (#676919 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: Maine Township, MN
Cabelas Insulated Guidewear. Never wet. Never cold.
Buliwyf
Posted 12/3/2013 11:00 AM (#676933 - in reply to #676263)
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I went with the Artic Armor this year and I was really impressed. It is very warm, and advertises it has floatation. I'm in no hurry to try the floatation in Novemeber, but it has to help in an emergency.
LarryJones
Posted 12/3/2013 11:12 AM (#676937 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: On the Niagara River in Buffalo, NY
Some of You keep missing the point here,staying warm with layers could cost you your life in cold water periods if you go overboard.Hypothermia will take you out very quickly and water absorbed layers will drag you down even with your wearing standard floataion life vest.We practice man overboard drills every year,a soaked pair of Carhart's with a type 3 life perserver on will take you down if you weigh over 200 lbs.Survival Suit is a must when water temps cold,especially under 45 degree water temp.Chart below says it all:
Hypothermia Chart
Expected Time
of Survival is:

32.5 degree water--Under 15 min.

32.5 - 40 degree water--Under 15 - 30 min.

40 - 50 degree water--15 - 45 min.

Survial Suit may give you 15 to 30 minutes more added to the times above!

















Edited by LarryJones 12/3/2013 11:16 AM
achotrod
Posted 12/3/2013 11:24 AM (#676944 - in reply to #676263)
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I use my Klim snowmobile gear. base layer, mid and outer. Works great and I get more use out of them.
esoxaddict
Posted 12/3/2013 12:17 PM (#676959 - in reply to #676263)
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Hey Larry

Do you use the one piece flotation suit? Full immersion suit? Any thoughts on the float coat and/or bibs? Would the coat be enough to keep your head out of the water? Hypothermia is a real concern, but I rarely fish alone, so I always figured if I went in my boat partners would be able to get me in the boat, but you bring up a good point about all the wet clothes. If you don't float, you don't live. Anyway, I've been looking at the Mustang stuff for some time, and was never really sure which would be best. Any advice you could give would be helpful.

LarryJones
Posted 12/3/2013 2:11 PM (#676990 - in reply to #676263)
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Location: On the Niagara River in Buffalo, NY
esoxaddict, The Mustang Survival Work Suit one piece is the best option.With wrist & anckle enclosures closed properly and zipped up to your neck the suit will enclose around your body holding most water out and heat in.Also there is a pillow behind the collar that can be blown up that when inflated will keep your face turned upward out of the water if you black out!Cell phone in a waterproof bag will mean you can dial 911 for help as well.One other thing to think about are you far from the launch, extra clothes and towel in a plastic bag with body size hand warmers stored in a dry bag in the boat, you could freeze to death before you can return to the dock being wet.

Edited by LarryJones 12/3/2013 2:20 PM