Backlash issue
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/2/2013 9:45 PM (#671514)
Subject: Backlash issue




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i have a saltist 300a i only use for big bucktail but it seems every other cast i get a birdsnest i try adjusting it but it never helps i pretty much have to press my thumb down hard to get it to cast right but then it only goes about 20 feet what gives?
cave run legend
Posted 11/2/2013 10:47 PM (#671524 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Those are made jigging not casting right?
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/2/2013 10:55 PM (#671525 - in reply to #671514)
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Huh?
Propster
Posted 11/2/2013 10:58 PM (#671526 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue




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Location: MN
I am not familiar with that exact model but many of the saltists didn't have spool brakes, making them more difficult to cast. Many were designed for jigging
dami0101
Posted 11/3/2013 9:00 AM (#671553 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
I have one if the new black saltists, the 20 size, and they don't have spool brakes. I ky use mine for heavier baits or bucktails that have marabou or extra waiting, I won't throw standard cowgirls or cranks with it.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 11/3/2013 10:07 AM (#671560 - in reply to #671553)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Location: Walker, MN
I love mine for a big rubber dedicated set-up but I don't think I would want to throw big blades into the wind with it. It doesn't even have a centrifugal brake. You could try just filling up the spool 2/3 of the way other wise you might want to consider a different reel. They are bullet proof reels just not exactly a great all around muskie reel. They require a pretty educated thumb.
Todd Georgian
Posted 11/3/2013 5:01 PM (#671607 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue





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Location: Georgian Bay
Practice makes perfect. I have a Saltist 40 and i used to backlash alot, I now back the adjuster way off and my thumb never leaves the spool. The trick is to not try to cast to hard more of a good hard lob. I also got real good at pulling out birdnests.
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/3/2013 6:13 PM (#671622 - in reply to #671607)
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I will try adjusting it way off hopefully that will help
Junkman
Posted 11/3/2013 7:36 PM (#671634 - in reply to #671622)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue




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Sometimes, several hard hooksets, etc., will cause line to "bite" into the spool. Line twist does not help either. Cut off your leader and let all the line out off the spool behind the boat at about 4 MPH, then real steady. It's just the right pressure for the line and you will spool up without twist. Then realize you either have 100% brakes or zero cuz trying to get inbetween is about a fruitless effort. Back off the brake all the way and then cast until you educate your thumb to the reel. If it's double tens, don't cast into the breeze, you will be unhappy. The whippier tip on the Sling Blade helps in that area but you just have to practice with that reel. I still like them however.
dtaijo174
Posted 11/3/2013 7:56 PM (#671638 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Location: New Hope MN
I sent my saltist 30HA to Pikemaster, and it magically came back 10X easier to cast. No idea what he did.
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/3/2013 8:22 PM (#671648 - in reply to #671638)
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Ha i would like to know, ive been looking around and it seems like its a common problem you have to figure out how to solve on our own haha
Junkman
Posted 11/4/2013 8:03 AM (#671724 - in reply to #671514)
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It's really more simple than that, it's NOT a casting real, it's a TROLLING reel. We have adapted the use because we like the big crank, large spool, incredible take-up which allows you to "burn" double tens with your hand hardly moving for like a hundred fifty bucks. You just have to learn to use it......or as Dirty Harry would say, "A man has to know his limitations!"
thescottith
Posted 11/4/2013 9:27 AM (#671741 - in reply to #671724)
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rotate your reel 90degrees counterclockwise on the cast.
BruceKY
Posted 11/4/2013 11:31 AM (#671766 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue





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Location: KY
Has anyone tried maging a Saltist 20? I think the striper guys have good luck with the larger saltist reels. They are going for 100+ yard casts from shore though.
dami0101
Posted 11/4/2013 11:51 AM (#671771 - in reply to #671766)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
BruceKY - 11/4/2013 11:31 AM

Has anyone tried maging a Saltist 20? I think the striper guys have good luck with the larger saltist reels. They are going for 100+ yard casts from shore though.


What is maging?
CU301DSV
Posted 11/4/2013 12:08 PM (#671774 - in reply to #671771)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue





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Location: Canada
"Magging" is adding small strong earth magnets inside the reel to slow down the spool.
Zinox
Posted 11/4/2013 1:54 PM (#671797 - in reply to #671514)
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Which rod are you using ?
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/4/2013 2:10 PM (#671803 - in reply to #671797)
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7'6 heavy action
Zinox
Posted 11/4/2013 5:16 PM (#671837 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue




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Try to make the cast "slower" i found the the more i try to "force energy" into the bait the more reels tends to go bananas :P
dami0101
Posted 11/4/2013 5:20 PM (#671838 - in reply to #671837)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Zinox - 11/4/2013 5:16 PM

Try to make the cast "slower" i found the the more i try to "force energy" into the bait the more reels tends to go bananas :P


Agreed. Seemed like the harder I would try to trow a DCG the more often it would backlash. Like i said before, a simple fix is to just use a heavier or marabou bucktails.
gunnr
Posted 11/5/2013 12:12 PM (#671998 - in reply to #671838)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Packing the spool bearings with grease helps. Also, there is a place that installs a custom magnetic brake on them for around $55.


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Eaglescout2012
Posted 11/5/2013 12:21 PM (#671999 - in reply to #671514)
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Bigdog, Set the drag so the lure just bareley falls when the spool is engaged. My friend Roger can get backlashes out very well but theres all diffrent ways to do it.

-Zachary
Todd Georgian
Posted 11/5/2013 7:18 PM (#672080 - in reply to #671514)
Subject: RE: Backlash issue





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Location: Georgian Bay
IMO the best way to remove a backlash/birdnest when using super braids is to pull hard out the front, more of a hard snap. This works about 80% of the time. If it does not work, the hard snap will create a V in the birdnest, give the V a hard pull if it pops, pull/snap out the front. Now 2% of the time the first hard snap will dig the knot deep into the spool and you will be f#$%ed. Just my 2 cents.
cast4musky
Posted 11/6/2013 4:21 PM (#672266 - in reply to #671514)
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I think the easiest and best thing to do is Not Use this reel for throwing blades, this reel was clearly not designed for throwing blades, and more for jigging and trolling like someone else already indicated... My advice would be to keep this reel for trolling and jigging, and buy another reel that was designed for Casting Baits and Blades....
dami0101
Posted 11/6/2013 5:19 PM (#672277 - in reply to #672266)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
cast4musky - 11/6/2013 4:21 PM

I think the easiest and best thing to do is Not Use this reel for throwing blades, this reel was clearly not designed for throwing blades, and more for jigging and trolling like someone else already indicated... My advice would be to keep this reel for trolling and jigging, and buy another reel that was designed for Casting Baits and Blades....


I disagree. This thing is basically a poor mans Tranx and with practice and/or the right equipment one won't have too many issues. Besides, it's a killer reel for burning blades and you're hard pressed to find a better reel for dawgs IMO. Also, spending the money on another reel may not be an option for everyone.
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/7/2013 10:46 AM (#672390 - in reply to #672277)
Subject: Re: Backlash issue




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dami0101 - 11/6/2013 5:19 PM

cast4musky - 11/6/2013 4:21 PM

I think the easiest and best thing to do is Not Use this reel for throwing blades, this reel was clearly not designed for throwing blades, and more for jigging and trolling like someone else already indicated... My advice would be to keep this reel for trolling and jigging, and buy another reel that was designed for Casting Baits and Blades....


I disagree. This thing is basically a poor mans Tranx and with practice and/or the right equipment one won't have too many issues. Besides, it's a killer reel for burning blades and you're hard pressed to find a better reel for dawgs IMO. Also, spending the money on another reel may not be an option for everyone.


Yea dropping $150-200 on a new reel and leaving this one on the shelf or using for troling is not an option i will try some of the ideas here to see if it will work better.
cave run legend
Posted 11/7/2013 10:48 AM (#672392 - in reply to #672390)
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Sell the saltist?
bigdogg2278
Posted 11/7/2013 11:01 AM (#672393 - in reply to #672392)
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Its an option i got it for a good deal so i would still be spending another $100 on another reel
cave run legend
Posted 11/7/2013 11:13 AM (#672395 - in reply to #671514)
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Practice at it and you will get better.