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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Just curious... |
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| I care about length. Its like When I kill a big buck I care about the points and could care less about how much it field dressed. |
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| not the same.....when youre scoring your deer the thickness of its antlers is used to help determine how "big" of a deer you shot, not just the length of all the points added up. girth definitely plays (in my mind) a component of how "nice" of a musky it is. |
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| cave run legend - 10/29/2013 12:27 PM
I care about length. Its like When I kill a big buck I care about the points and could care less about how much it field dressed.
I like to measure length and girth if its a big one. I think its like scoring a big buck. I could care less about points I want to know its overall score. |
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| Gobble! - 10/29/2013 1:01 PM
cave run legend - 10/29/2013 12:27 PM
I care about length. Its like When I kill a big buck I care about the points and could care less about how much it field dressed.
I like to measure length and girth if its a big one. I think its like scoring a big buck. I could care less about points I want to know its overall score.
Agreed. I also would rather know the weight of the deer more than the total points, but thats just me. |
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Location: NE Wisconsin | Only "Exceptional" fish. |
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| when you tell regular people about your buck they understand when you say 10 point, 12 point, etc. They won't understand what the hell your talking about when you use a scoring system. Like nobody can care less about the girth of the fish they want to know the length. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | really? most deer hunters get all geeked up talking about the spread of their buck...isn't that kinda the same thing? most of the regular deer hunters I know talk in tine length, spread and what they would score
there are plenty of 8, 10, and 12 pt bucks that wouldn't even be worth a horn mount.. fat fish are awesome...most guys would much rather catch a 48 x 25 than a skinny 52... haven't girthed very many only a few super fat ones or some 54s
Edited by BNelson 10/29/2013 2:32 PM
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| Johnnie - 10/29/2013 2:02 PM
Only "Exceptional" fish.
Same here.
BNelson - 10/29/2013 2:26 PM
...most guys would much rather catch a 48 x 25 than a skinny 52...
Exactly.
The fish doesn't have to be 50+ incher to be a quality fish. I've caught a lot of what I would consider to be very healthy, quality fish, that were not near that magical benchmark length. Even some mid to upper 40 inch fish that just blew my mind on their girth. Some that when lifted from the net for that quick snapshot photo....were releasing large quantities of partially digested forage to the bottom of my boat floor and the tops of my shoes with a very, vivid audible sound!! LOL!
If it's a really good sized fish, and you have the time and ability girth it without harming the fish...why not take that extra couple of seconds (that's all it takes) and find out the girth vs playing the guessing game? That way....you know. Nevermind the naysayers.....and internet keyboard jockeys...
Edited by MACK 10/29/2013 2:49 PM
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| cave run legend - 10/29/2013 2:22 PM
when you tell regular people about your buck they understand when you say 10 point, 12 point, etc. They won't understand what the hell your talking about when you use a scoring system. Like nobody can care less about the girth of the fish they want to know the length.
I have seen an 70" 10pt killed (thats a not so impressive buck for those regualr people out there) so saying I killed a 10pt means jack to me. Saying I killed a 150" buck means a hell of alot more.
Saying I caught a 48" muskie is cool. Saying I caught a muskie that was 48" long and had a girth of 28" means a hell of alot more to anyone who really gives a crap about muskie fishing. |
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| What does a 150" buck mean? |
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| it means its very big.
When I say a buck is x"s or a turkeys spurs were x"s its not the regular guy who hunts 6 days a year with a rifle I am trying to have a decent conversation with.
I guess what Im trying to say is when I talk about scoring deer or a muskies girth I am not doing that for joe blow. Im doing that for people who know the sport and know what a true trophy is.
Edited by Gobble! 10/29/2013 3:13 PM
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | NO why keep the fish out of water any longer ???? just to do the Girth ???? |
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| Girth them in the net in the water before you measure them |
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Location: Minneapolis | I don't measure or girth. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | i always have to chuckle when guys think it adds so much time...here is a simple and easy way to do it... adds what maybe 2 seconds to them out of the water ...wow, big deal.
once fish is done being unhooked, resting comfortably in the net/water, get your bumpboard out, lay down the tape in the middle of bumpboard, bring fish out, put on bumpboard, measure, then grab girth tape (already in position) and tighten, read girth... voila... yah that takes soooo much time...not.
experienced anglers are not the ones we need to worry about how long fish are out of the water it's all the clowns you see out there w no tools, a walleye net and have to take 26 pics from every angle... sheesh.
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| Yes, if you are going to bump a fish, taking a quick girth measurement is adding minimal added stress. Most fish don't die on the board, they die because they get dropped on the deck or because someone needs 25 pictures or perhaps angler does not have the proper tools to extract the bait in a timely manner. If there is concern you can take a girth measurement while the fish is recovering in the net. |
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| Ha......well said bnelson. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | measure her belt before she wakes up in the morning... oops, just realized this is about fish. LOL! |
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| Is that your college days fishhawk?:) |
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| I've only girthed a handful of fish and all have been while the fish is still in the net and only took a couple seconds. I think B Nelson summed it up pretty good.
Edited by Ja Rule 10/29/2013 5:47 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yep |
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| I've been so worried about harming fish lately, that the last 5 fish I have hooked, I've let them get off before I can even get them boatside...
...aggravating, bony mouthed fish!! |
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| I've have not once remembered to get a girth measurement, even though I carry a tape. Really wish I had on some of the thicker ones. Ahh well... |
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| I only girth the big fat fish. |
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| Is a 52" an older fish than a 48" on the same body of water? Yes it is. Why in the heck would I care what the girth of a 48" fish is if I have caught an older more difficult to catch fish from the same body of water? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not really sure... why? |
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| I wouldn't. If its the same lake a 52" is just a more impressive catch than 48" end of story. What exactly is the point of a girth measurement? |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Wow, I knew muskies were cloned. I just needed to read it first hand by a guest on the internet. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Guest,
The weight formula, I would presume. |
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| Do whatever you want.
I appreciate seeing the measurements of a lot of the giant fish I see caught in places I have never been. |
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| He knows his point is ridiculous since he has to post it as a guest. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | guest, it's the same thing with the buck analogy... take 100 8 pointers and they are all different, some impressive some not, in your post you'd rather catch a skinny 52 than super fat 48, most if not all the guys i fish with would rather catch the super tanker 48, why? cuz it weighs more than the skinny old 52... to put it another way, would you rather catch a fat 52 or skinny 52. simple right...it's all about the girth ! to each their own tho.... i love this time of year when some crazy girths get thrown around on the net...
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| I fish Pewaukee a lot. No real reason to girth 34-42 inch fish. I even stopped taking pictures of them. Wife thought I was crazy, but how many pics of a 37 inch fish does a guy need?
But when I go north in the fall and get a bigger one that looks fat? Yah, I'll get a quick measurement. Know what I found out? Lakes with ciscos produce girthier muskies. Go figure, right?  |
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| I don't measure girth, but a picture of a fattie always catches your attention. |
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Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-) | Haven't girthed one yet. There's a few I wish I had. When I get a super fat 54 I will. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I girthed only one fish,.... a 52x24
But I did catch a 49.5 about six months later that was the FATTEST fish I ever caught and wished I would have girthed her... It was some what Heavier than the 52 caught earlier. I knew that as soon as I pulled her out of the net......Definitely a better fish than the 52...It even fought harder, for sure.
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Location: NE Wisconsin | I have had many, 48-49" in my boat, some from WI inland lakes, many from LOW and many from Green Bay and the Fox, both in the summer and late in the fall. A true 48 or 49 with a true 25"girth is very impressive, but I have never caught a true 52 skinny or otherwise. Give me any true 52" muskie. |
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| I have a formula that uses pectoral girth, max girth and length to calculate weight so I routinely take all 3 measurements on fish I catch. Girth measurements in the net, length on the bumpboard. The formula is very accurate as it uses over 300 known actual weights of muskies from the Iowa Great Lakes.
I'm curious to what each musky weighs and I don't have to add any extra stress to the fish. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I don't think I've ever girthed a fish under 50, and even some of my 50's that obviously weren't fat, I didn't bother. I girth them in the water and it goes quickly. |
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Location: 31 | esoxfly - 10/31/2013 8:53 PM I don't think I've ever girthed a fish under 50, and even some of my 50's that obviously weren't fat, I didn't bother. I girth them in the water and it goes quickly.
I normally don't bother with the girth anymore (or length for that matter), unless my boat partner asks, or it's a giant. When I have girthed them in the past though, it’s always been in the net. However, when those fish were frisky, or in rough water (or at night) I've had some issues trying to obtain a good measurement. I really like Brad’s method on the board, and will use that method in the future… hopefully sooner rather than later.
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