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| Looking to see what others are running for rod holders in their rigs.. Had some cabelas (similar to scotty's) in my old boat which worked okay, just get nervous about flex/breaking. Need to find something removable from the base for when not in use.. Thanks ahead!
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Location: Lake of the Woods, Morson, Ontario | down-east are my top choice.
I give them a heck of a beating every year grinding big baits into rocks up here in the fall and they have held up great.
there is a small cotter type pin in the holder that could use replacing once in awhile if it gets bent, but have only this happen a couple times and have been running them since 2006 on my boat.
I take the main part of the holders off (wing nut and bolt) so just the rail mount is left in the summer when I'm casting and for covering the boat at night.
Edited by MyliesPlace(Justin) 9/13/2013 2:07 PM
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Location: Walker, MN | Most run down east or folbes. I have had both but I now run all flobes. Both brands can be a little clumsy but are very strong. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I've always run Down Easters but am considering getting some cannon type tube type to run boards. Some friends are using them and I like the rod buts not being inside the cockpit |
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Location: Wakefield, MI | I just set up a pair of folbes, they seem pretty strong so far.
How strong are the extensions on them? If I put on an extension, put a rod in it, grab the line and yank it at a 90 degree angle it seems to flex quite a bit. Is this normal or should I run less of an angle?
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| I've been looking more at the Folbes due to the fact that you can remove them vs the down east's that are stuck where you bolt them. |
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Location: West Virginia | I recently picked up some cisco rod holders and was really happy with them. They remove from the bases easily and the base does not interfere with the cover. Lots of adjustments and strong material. Little pricey, but they were exactly what I was looking for. |
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| milje - 9/13/2013 5:28 PM
I just set up a pair of folbes, they seem pretty strong so far.
How strong are the extensions on them? If I put on an extension, put a rod in it, grab the line and yank it at a 90 degree angle it seems to flex quite a bit. Is this normal or should I run less of an angle?
Plenty strong. I got my PB 52.5 on a down rod with 3 feet of line out, on a Folbe with an extension. I have total confidence in the Folbe line. Made for and by Salmon anglers in the Pacific Northwest. IMO, a 30+ lb Chinook salmon hits and fights much harder than a Muskie or Pike.
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| Had a few issues with Folbes, wondering if anyone else has seen this. First the teeth that lock the holder in place wear down from running big baits as down rods. My bigger beef is using a rod without a trigger or not getting a rod trigger into the trigger hole. I stripped out two Tekota's worm gear when a fish hit a rod without a trigger and the rod slid up in the holder until the line guide hit the holder and wasnt able to move back and forth. Even with trigger you have to make sure the trigger gets put into the cut out in the bottom of the holder or this will happen. |
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Location: Warroad, Mn | I've used Ram for years. No problems. I like the fact that they flex some, helps bounce the lures over the rocks on the LOTWs. Very easy to remove and store.
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| Esox1850 - 9/17/2013 4:06 PM
Had a few issues with Folbes, wondering if anyone else has seen this. First the teeth that lock the holder in place wear down from running big baits as down rods. My bigger beef is using a rod without a trigger or not getting a rod trigger into the trigger hole. I stripped out two Tekota's worm gear when a fish hit a rod without a trigger and the rod slid up in the holder until the line guide hit the holder and wasnt able to move back and forth. Even with trigger you have to make sure the trigger gets put into the cut out in the bottom of the holder or this will happen.
I think after a few seasons of use, the socket and post teeth will eventually wear down. I think JDSplasher has seen this. But I don't know anyone that pulls baits as much as he does in a year. So, yes, you may have to do some replacing over time.
I've not experienced a problem with triggers. All my trolling rods for muskies have trigger handles. No reason not to have them, as trolling sticks are relatively inexpensive. Yes, the trigger has to be in the opening. |
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| Ciscos for me!!!!!! |
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| I use down east and scotty orcas. |
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Location: Morton, IL & Conover, WI | Cannon dual axis tube style. |
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Location: WI | Folbe. |
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Location: Angola, IN | Never looked at Folbe until now. No thanks. I couldn't put something plastic on my boat. But glad to hear other people like them. I just couldn't do it.
I run Down-East on my boat. I have a total of six rod holders on my trolling rig. Two of the Down-East are the double clamp style (S-10's) that I use Bert's rail system and their C-Clamp riser mount. The other 4 Down-East are the simple bolt down kind (S-17's). Never had a problem with mine.
My brother Tom just put a Cisco system on his boat, which utilizes their 6 tubes and 4 Down-East on their track, quick release base plates, and gimbal mounts. He also has their planer board reels. This stuff is as nice as you can buy. Top shelf all the way. Nothing I've seen so far even comes close. None of it bolts down, and all of it is quicklu stored away, leaving a nice clean look on his Tiara. Not a nothing put forged aluminum and high quality stainless steel used on Cisco equipment. Not a single piece of plastic, rubber, or vinyl can be found on any of their equipment. It's all real nice. |
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Location: 31 | crestliner08 - 9/13/2013 9:36 PM
I've been looking more at the Folbes due to the fact that you can remove them vs the down east's that are stuck where you bolt them.
The rail mounted DEs are not stuck where you put them. The only trick to this is not cranking them down tight so they can be rotated while fishing, and for travel/storage.
Obviously being able to rotate any rod holder also gives you advantages while fishing, and although nothing lasts forever, the fact that the DEs are metal and WILL take a lot of punishment makes them my choice... not even a close second.
You can also remove any DE holder itself pretty quickly by just removing the wing nut and bolt, if your only going to be casting for the trip or the travel cover is too tight for instance.
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| Plastic failed me on a 39 incher on my buddys boat last trip. Drag was set properly... Luckily the rod was grabbed as it snapped.
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| Not a Folbe that failed here.
There's plastic, and then there's the COMPOSITE material that Folbe uses. Some would lump it in with any old plastic. They'd be wrong.
DownEasters are made of cast whitemetal, one of the weakest processes used. The biggest complaint I've heard is they are hard to clamp down tight to rails. Use tape. Use inner tube rubber. Use..... Biggest reason I got rid of my DE's is they chew up handles, are hard to seat properly, and are noisy. Other than that, I just didn't like them.
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| So I should not buy the Eagle Claw holders from Dicks? |
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Location: Canada | We've been using Scotty Orcas for a few years now and never had one break on a fish. |
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| Todays polymers are just as strong as metal.
I run scotty powerblocks. |
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Location: 31 | cave run legend - 11/30/2013 7:47 PM
Todays polymers are just as strong as metal.
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Agree! Regarding the type of holder; obviously everyone has their preferences and there's definitely a learning curve with the DE, so I completely understand why people have issues with them initially. However, once you get use to seating them, and get the hang of how to relieve the pressure to remove them from the holder, there is simply nothing more slick and efficient.
When I'm bored I’ll go for a 1 hand lure check by rotating the down rod out of the water on the rail, lift the rod out of the holder, and then bring the bait to the surface to make sure it's running good/check weeds. The more challenging part is putting the rod back in the holder under pressure and then rotating the rod back in place while only holding the butt with one hand the entire time... 15-20 seconds. Just something to do for fun, but actually shows how fast and easy the DEs are to use once you get dialed in.
horsehunter - 9/13/2013 3:48 PM
I've always run Down Easters but am considering getting some cannon type tube type to run boards. Some friends are using them and I like the rod buts not being inside the cockpit
Frank,
I'm considering using a couple of those tubes too, but only on my outside board rods to get them a little further out and away from the inside board rod though. My quick and dirty remedy for those annoying long rod butts was to cut off 6” of it with a hack saw. They still work just as good for trolling and cutting them down allows my 8 ½’ rods (now 8’) to fit in the rod locker, plus there's better access to open and close the rear side compartments without having to remove a rod from the holder.
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| Traxtec are great, run on a rail system, and can remove them when not in use. Best ones Ive owned |
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | I have folbe and love them. They are a bit hard to tighten down on the rails but, I actually like that. When I'm running down rods it allows me to adjust precisely to keep the rod tips in the water when the list of my boat changes due to other people along with. |
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