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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Currently for bucktails I use an 8'6" XH mojo musky that I have paired with a Saltist, the new black one. Because the reel has such a high line pickup, I have a problem with blowing it my blades fairly often. I try to keep the tip of the rod as close to the water as I can but I'm always fighting with the rod bending towards the lure and honestly my rod arm tends to get tired faster then my reeling arm due to all of this. Are there any suggestions on a rod that might work better for this? Would. XXH 9' TI rod have the same issues? |
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| I dont think its your rod that is the problem. I have a similar issue with my tranx hg if im not paying close attention. You can try to reel slower, or add a little weight to your bucktail. I know exactly what you mean about the phatigue. You want to try to keep the rod pointed straight at the bait until it is close to the boat to avoid the phatigue. I dont know what your line pick up is on that reel, but i think you just need a slower gear ratio. I prefer a much softer rod than you for blades. I use a thorne bros predator with a 1-4oz rating. Love the way it loads an prefer a little more bend. I would say try a slower reel that you already have and see if it eliminates the prob.
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Location: Walker, MN | Or just try not filling the spool up all of the way. |
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Location: Minnesota | I use a 9 foot heavy predator with a tranx pg. great set up for buck tails |
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| A longer rod, would make a longer lever, making it harder to hold the rod tip close to the water (theoretically) |
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| Use a Tackle Industries TI MH 9 for your light tails and a TI 9 XH for your D10 and larger tails. Best bucktail rode I have ever used. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | joelo7 - 9/10/2013 11:22 AM
I dont think its your rod that is the problem. I have a similar issue with my tranx hg if im not paying close attention. You can try to reel slower, or add a little weight to your bucktail. I know exactly what you mean about the phatigue. You want to try to keep the rod pointed straight at the bait until it is close to the boat to avoid the phatigue. I dont know what your line pick up is on that reel, but i think you just need a slower gear ratio. I prefer a much softer rod than you for blades. I use a thorne bros predator with a 1-4oz rating. Love the way it loads an prefer a little more bend. I would say try a slower reel that you already have and see if it eliminates the prob.
just my .2
JOE
The reel is rated to 35" per turn. I have a 3.5 ounce double mag 8 and a trolling girl which weighs 4.8 ounces and I easily blow both of them out of the water and I'm not even trying to burn them. I've also thrown a DCG and the mag 8 on an 8' rod paired with a 400 B and while it's harder for me to blow them out, it's still something I need to be aware of. |
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| Any reason you do not bury the tip of your rod in the water to prevent the blowout? I do this all the time, works great... If you want a stouter rod to reduce flex I would not get an XXh rod of any kind; especially a TI but that is just my opinion. I would get an XH and let your wallet and brand prference decide the type. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Mojo1269 - 9/10/2013 1:23 PM
Any reason you do not bury the tip of your rod in the water to prevent the blowout? I do this all the time, works great... If you want a stouter rod to reduce flex I would not get an XXh rod of any kind; especially a TI but that is just my opinion. I would get an XH and let your wallet and brand preference decide the type.
Unfortunately the rod doesn't reach the water, that's one of the reason I'm looking to get a 9' rod. The other issue is that I spend a lot of energy fighting to keep the rod angled down so it can be as close to the water as possible. The fact that the rod is s a split grip makes it harder because the rod slips around when tucked under my shoulder. |
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| Do you palm the reel or grab the foregrip? If you grab the foregrip it will stablize the rod on retrieves and allow for more leverage on hook-sets. It feels wierd about the first hour you do it then it becomes second nature. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Mojo1269 - 9/10/2013 1:52 PM
Do you palm the reel or grab the foregrip? If you grab the foregrip it will stablize the rod on retrieves and allow for more leverage on hook-sets. It feels wierd about the first hour you do it then it becomes second nature.
I palm the reel. I've tried using the forgrip when my hand gets tired of palming but the rod has a tendency to move around from side to side while I'm reeling and doesn't feel right. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Add weight to your bucktails, they'll cast better and stay down. I usually put a 1oz sinker on them. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | cast10K - 9/10/2013 2:34 PM
Add weight to your bucktails, they'll cast better and stay down. I usually put a 1oz sinker on them.
I don't know how much heavier I can go considering I'm using 3.5 for mag 8's and 4.5-4.8 for double 10's. |
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| Adding weight is great but if you start fishing shield lakes and work reefs you do not want a bucktail that sinks like a stone or you will spend alot of time trying to get them unstuck from rocks. Not sure what to tell you on the side to side movement. Sounds like you get it palming and when holding the foregrip. Might just by a form thing you need to tweak on your end. |
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| and lose a bunch of bucktails as well, some of those reefs are impossible to get close to without risking serious boat damage |
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