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| What do u guys prefer? |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Cortland spectron or masterbraid. 10x better then power pro imo |
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| Masterbraid no question. |
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Location: Lake County Illinois | Masterbraid for sure,had a lot of fraying with Power pro. |
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Location: Minocqua, WI | Cortland.
- Less frays
- No random mid-cast break-offs
- Great spool/shelf life
- No waxy film or residues all over your reel or hands after first hour of casting
- Stronger fibers for fixing holes in landing nets
- Not sold online in counterfeit boxes or fake spools
- Made in USA (New York)
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Master Braid
Mtn Hunter - 8/22/2013 10:26 PM
Why don't u like the power pro
It seems when I get a backlash with PP, I have to get out the line pick, where the other braids I've used i can just pull it out. |
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Posts: 415
| I have used Power Pro for many years, for both muskies and all other species. I have experienced none of the problems you ugys have found. I must be lucky. I switched momentarily to some Spiderwire Stealth and also tried some Suffix, and I greatly preferred the Power Pro to either of them. |
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Posts: 897
| I used Power Pro 65# for a couple years when I started musky fishing. Lost a bunch of lures when the line snapped on backlashes. Upgraded to 80# and only lost a couple. Switched to Tuf-Line XP 80# and have never lost a lure due to line failure. A few weeks ago up on LOTW I fished one day with a couple guys running 80# Power Pro...they lost 2 lures that day. One on a backlash...one when the guy made the first turn in the 8. The line was fraying in weird spots that can't be accounted for by hitting rocks or their rods/reels. I don't trust Power Pro to hold up and will never use it again. |
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Posts: 139
| I use both. I like masterbraid a little better but in all reality, I have had no issues with PP. Either will work just fine. |
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Posts: 750
Location: Minneapolis, MN | I used Power Pro when I first started fishing last year and through the beginning of this year. In June I sued a guides setup that had Cortland on it and any sort of an overrun was so much easier to get out. Then in July I had Power Pro break on the first cast with a brand new Shallow Invader and I said whelp, guess it's time to change. For me probably the most noticeable difference is the ease with which I can get out overruns. With Power Pro it was typically a 3 minute process to get out an overrun, with Cortland it's typically less than 30 seconds. I still have Power Pro on my other reel and I will say it's noticeably thinner than the Cortland, I have 80# of both, and I think this probably contributes to the ease of getting out overruns. |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | Cortland all the way. I have watched power pro break in my boat no less than 25 times...on backlashes, on fish, on hook sets, on rocks, etc... 100 lb Cortland is on all my rods. Never any issues. |
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Posts: 415
| I might end up switching in this off-season, it's just hard to abandon a product that hasn't failed me yet. If I switch I'm leaning towards the new Sunline. It's hard to take the advice of people who get paid to push a product. |
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Location: Detroit River | I've been using Power Pro since 2008 & I have NEVER had any of the issues others are talking about. I use 8 LB & 10 LB hi-vis yellow for jigging walleye on the DR. Even pulled in a 65" sturgeon last year on 8 LB PP & it held up to the 50 minute battle but I was spent afterwards. I use 80 LB on all my musky reels & no issues there either. When jigging Bondy Baits in the DR I snag up a lot & I've pulled up 20' wood planks loaded with zebra mussels, large chucks of concrete with rebar, anchors wrapped around other crap, a motor cycle engine. Even when I couldn't get un-snagged I will tie the 80 LB PP around a cleat & it will anchor me in the current. |
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Location: Detroit River | MikeHulbert - 8/23/2013 10:06 AM I have watched power pro break in my boat no less than 25 times...on backlashes, on fish, on hook sets, on rocks, etc... 100 lb When you're casting pounders all day that will happen with all braids unless you use a higher LB rating. |
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Posts: 148
| i have had the cast off issue a lot with power pro thats why i asked the question, seems like the stuff they made 4 years ago was better the stuff i have bought lately seems to break way to easly......... |
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| Mtn Hunter - 8/23/2013 9:46 AM
i have had the cast off issue a lot with power pro thats why i asked the question, seems like the stuff they made 4 years ago was better the stuff i have bought lately seems to break way to easly.........
I have noticed the same thing with stealth as well. I wonder what is going on. I have stepped up to 100LBS from 80LBS and have switched to vicious. Hope its good or I will go to masterbraid. Atleast that is the plan if I dont like vicious.
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| Ja Rule - 8/23/2013 9:57 AM
MikeHulbert - 8/23/2013 9:06 AM
I have watched power pro break in my boat no less than 25 times...
Why did you wait until 25 failures to switch?
My guess is that those are from client rods, when I guided even though I had equiptment for them to use, plenty of people liked to use their own set ups. BR |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Just don't get any backlash... Jk. Have had similar issues with power pro and just switched over. No complaints yet with Courtland. |
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Posts: 139
| I have tried vicious and won't say its awful, but it did seem thick and heavier than the others. Casting distance wasn't as good but it did seem strong. |
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Posts: 252
| I've used spider wire. Had it break on a big fish right under my boat so I stopped using it. Switched to 65 lb power pro about 2 years ago and haven't had any problems with it yet. |
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Posts: 252
| Are the big spools of power pro that you see on ebay not really power pro?
I was thinking about buying some of it until I read this thread... |
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Posts: 148
| all the stuff i have bought has been from thorne bros, gander or rollie and helens,......... no idea on the ebay line |
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Posts: 148
| I agree I think the formula or process of how it's made changed that stuff is crap I used to love it |
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| by far masterbraid pp is so obsolete |
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Posts: 633
Location: Madison, WI | Reg power pro is great and have no issues with it. Super slick is JUNK! Frays all over from regular use. I have 80lb power pro on most my rods and 100lb masterbraid on my dawg rod and personally i like them both. The pp is rounder and i think casts a little farther |
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Posts: 218
| The debate will go on forever because each line has it's supporters. My own personal take is that Masterbraid has a more limp feel to it than Power Pro. Essentially the break in period for Power Pro is the water resistant coating wearing off. Once that is gone then the line has a better "feel". Cortland's water resistance material called Fiber Tech is bonded to the spectra fibers instead of just coated on. This results in a pretty darn dry line. If you care to look at technical specs you will find that Masterbraid has more piks per inch (weaves) than other braids on the market. This DOES give it a little more diameter than other brands of a similar line test rating but overall results in a much smoother feel. A few years back Cortland produced an advert that showed microscopic photos of their product after various amounts of revolutions on a reel vs. brand P and brand S. You can make up your own mind as to what those two letters stand for but the results were clear. The other two lines looked "shredded" compared to the Cortland line. So, while there are always going to be those who like Power Pro or any other lines (and that's fine) I believe the science and technology sits squarely on the side of the Cortland Masterbraid. If you really dig deep enough there is information available online about line weaving technology that pretty much backs up Cortlands claims. Since I work at a store that sells or has sold nearly every brand of braid that comes along. I always try to spool up a reel with the latest/greatest new stuff to hit the market. I need to know to be able to inform customers of how a product performs. In the end I put Masterbraid on all my personal reels and those of my client rod/reels setups. |
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| Horrible experience with viscous. Watched one to many lures go flying when the line snapped. Heavy line and frayed too easy. 80lb power pro far better line in my opinion |
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Location: Lake St.Clair | Been using pp for this year and last and had no problems besides the color bleeding.
After reading what you wrote peter I think ill take the jump and spool up with some master before next trip out. |
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| I've never used masterbraid but from hearing the great comments about it seems there is a good thing going on there. I used regular pp years ago and from what I can remember I never had any "problems" with it but kept trying other brands in search of something "better". Keeping in mind that I have used basically the same three rod and reel combinations for the past few years as a constant, knowing that I don't have any bad/nicked guides that would cause any brand of line to fray, I tried the vicious a couple years ago and came off after only two days of use, it got frayed and fuzzy that fast. I then put the newer power pro super slick in 65 and 80lb on and have not looked back. For me it has been great...break in, if you want to call it that, was maybe a day or two...very little color fading...very quiet coming through the guides...pretty darn dry too compared to some I have tried. It's interesting that of all the brands I have tried I never tried the masterbraid but unless something very bad shows up using the pp super slick I have no reason to try it now. Taking out the nicked guides, etc., with so many one end to the other comments about the same brands of line out there could it be that the quality control process from the manufacturers is to blame? Who knows... |
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Location: Iowa | I've never used power pro on my muskie rods, but know guys that have lost baits while casting with it. I have used Cortland Spectron for at least 10 years and have never lost a bait because of it, and I have had some backslashes that almost pulled the rod from my hands. Haven't tried master braid yet, but it will be my next switch. |
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| I'd choose PP over mono but that's about it. I've fished about a dozen different superlines, most are pretty good now. Masterbraid is definitely good stuff, PP is not for me. To each their own. |
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Posts: 375
| Just curious...those that have not so good things to say about power pro are you talking about the standard power pro or the newer power pro super slick because there is a huge difference between them in my opinion... |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | STUSHSKY - 8/24/2013 3:15 PM
Just curious...those that have not so good things to say about power pro are you talking about the standard power pro or the newer power pro super slick because there is a huge difference between them in my opinion...
Standard for myself |
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| Cortland has replaced all my powerpro, a little more money but will that matter as that fish swims away...... |
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Location: Perryville, MO | I use Cortland Masterbraid on all my set-ups and always have. I like the way it performs. I can trust it, it lasts, and it's smooth. But I'm surprised it hasn't been noted that it tends to hold more water that a few other brands. I thought that I had heard that some guys switch out their Masterbraid in the Fall for a dryer line? |
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Posts: 28
| I prefer Cortland over PowerPro and prefer Tuf-Line XP over Cortland.
Although I have been running that 80 lb. blue Cortland (I believe it's Cortland) on my high speed set-up and I have been impressed. |
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Location: St Paul | I run masterbraid on all my rods except the dedicated trolling rod. 100 lb power pro on the trolling rod works well and you can use the dive charts available. Will not use 80 lb power pro due to break off isues. |
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| Thanks for all the info guys |
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Location: Savage, MN | STUSHSKY - 8/24/2013 3:15 PM
Just curious...those that have not so good things to say about power pro are you talking about the standard power pro or the newer power pro super slick because there is a huge difference between them in my opinion...
I used the Slick stuff once. For the first few weeks it was great, after that it began to fray, and fast. All Masterbraid now. |
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| Don't think Power Pro has gone downhill at all. Other companies have either improved their products or new ones come along that have now set the pace for advanced braids. Power Pro is pretty much the same as it always has been. |
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Master braid or power pro