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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Met a guy over the weekend who referenced a legendary muskie guide on Dale Hollow in Tn. The guide has since passed away (dont know when) but the gentleman could not recall his name but referred to him as "Dr." (doctor). Anyone have any clue as to who this may have been? I'm very curious. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | There was a guy that used to write articles for In-Fisherman back in the 80s and he was a muskie guide on Dale Hollow. If my memory doesn't fail me I think his name was Fred McClintok (spelling?) or something like that. He used to write about wireline and downrigger trolling. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | I can think of two other guys too but they were bass men. Dr. Lauren Hill with the Color-C-Lector unit and also Doug Hannon (spelling?) The Bass Professor. Fred McClintok (spelling?) wasn't any kind of a doctor that I can recall. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | Found this about the guy. Don't know if this is who you're looking for or not?
http://www.dalehollowguide.com/ |
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| fishpoop - 8/8/2013 1:01 AM I can think of two other guys too but they were bass men. Dr. Lauren Hill with the Color-C-Lector unit and also Doug Hannon (spelling?) The Bass Professor. Fred McClintok (spelling?) wasn't any kind of a doctor that I can recall. There's a lot of people that are called Dr. or Doc, that aren't really Doctors. Or are they? |
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Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid | I remember reading articles written by Fred McClintock when I was growing up. I will speak with some friends who fish Dale Hollow and live in TN for more information. |
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | As I started researching I thought it may have been McClintock but then it also seemed to me he was also a bass guy. Didnt see any of the wire line/riggers/trolling though. That may lead to muskies.....or stripers. There's no way ill ever be sure of whom this guy was speaking of (not likely Ill ever see him again). In our conversation he stated that this guide would, "for a week's salary (of the client)" he'd guide client to a dale hollow 50 pounder every time.......Have any of you ever spit ice cold pepsi through your nose? He caught me off guard and the conversation got very interesting from that point on. It was also at that point that the prices of his used baits went down as he realized I kinda knew what I was talking about. Any way, I was interested in a little more about the Dale Hollow muskie fishery then and now.
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| Tough now and tough back in Fred's day. Super clear water and a low density natural reproduction lake. I knew Fred a little. No 50 pound muskie for Fred or his clients. I still have some of Fred's equipment he sold off when he moved away from Dale Hollow. |
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | I tried looking on line in the fresh water fishing hall of fame for inductees thinking Id find out some about him there. I could not find a list any where. Is that accessible to members (ie supporters)?
Edited by KARLOUTDOORS 8/11/2013 6:13 PM
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | Fred's articles about wire line, down rigger trolling were in old issues of In-Fisherman magazine sometime in the 80s. I still have them here at home but it would take me hours to go through them all and find the right articles. Even if I did, not sure what good it would do because there's no way to share them here on this site and would most likely run into copyright issues anyhow.
Fred might not even be the guy you're trying to find for all I know but he is the only name that I ever heard of guiding for muskies in that body of water. It's the best help I can give you. |
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Location: Erie, PA | Fred McClintock retired a few years back. No longer guides. |
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| A man named Ralph "DOC" Phillips was a big time Muskie Fisherman in the 1950's and 1960's on Dale hollow. Him and my grandpa were big buddies and they caught muskies around the old bridge. He trolled plugs mostly. I have a picture of him somewhere I think his wife's name was Helen. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | I had the honor of fishing with my son and Fred McClintock for smallmouth, trouts, and muskie when he was a guide at Dale Hollow. I'd never seen anything like it before: he set out 8 muskie trolling lines and somehow managed to get them all out and back in without tangling. Fred taught my son Jon a lot about fishing that I could not, and Jon would remind me on occasion that 'it's not the way Fred did it, dad!" Fred had to move away from the area when the highway dept. decided to put a new road over his house, and he moved near Nashville. He died a couple years ago. He was a member of the Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame and appeared in a number of In-Fisherman TV shows, incl. one with huge stripers out of the Cumberland River. He was an interesting man to fish with and I miss him. m
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/louisville/obituary.aspx?n=frederi...
https://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/stripers-livebait-secrets-of-...
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| Don Wirth, a friend of Freds also guided muskies on Dale Hollow. My friend and I always thought Muskies Inc. should give at least double points for any Dale Hollow caught muskies as the population is low and the fishing is usually tough. I was told you don't catch many muskies at Dale Hollow but they are usually big, when I fished with Fred we didn't get much fishing in as his big motor was blown up and his kicker kept dying and refusing to restart, but I hooked and lost an upper 20 inch muskie, my only action of the day. |
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Location: Almond, WI | There was an In-Fisherman article on different cold water musky trolling techniques down south about 10 years ago and McClintock had one of the segments, he talked about short lining swimbaits on boards. Interesting stuff. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Hey, anybody can catch the big ones, it's those little ones that take a touch! We also got 'nary a rip' on a cold day between Christmas and New Years. As close as I got to a DH muskie was getting a white spinnerbait bit off at the weedbed outside the state resort marina while bassin'. It had to have been...
Fred used to tell of a well-known DH smallie guide who would toss muskies up on the bank and encourage customers to do the same. He's not with us any more, either.m
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Location: E. Tenn | The most famous guy on Dale Hollow was Billy Westmoreland, his specialty being smallmouth. I don't know if he ever guided for or even fished for muskies. |
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| Billy Westmoreland never fished for muskies he encouraged all bass men to kill them and most did when they caught them. Some of the bass fisherman still have this attitude today. The last couple of years there have been a few big ones caught unfortunately some of them weren't released. Billy was a small mouth fisherman. A man named E.C. Reagan was also a muskie fisherman who died last year. Doc Phillips trolled creek arms mostly, him and my grandpa also caught a muskie fishing for crappie one night under the old 42 bridge. |
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| I have a friend who has a houseboat at Holly Creek on Dale Hollow Lake. He musky fishes the lake through the winter. I asked him how often he catches a musky on Dale Hollow and he said that he catches one about every 5 days of trolling...
I've only musky fished that lake one day and didn't have any luck.
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| hey Kentucky muskie i sent you a pm. |
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Legendary Dale Hollow Muskie Guide?