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Location: Big Falls MN | So I was on a local lake last week and hooked a real nice fish my boat partner that day was a rookie took a stab at her with the net and got her caught on the outside of the net two big head shakes and she was gone was it good to let him learn or would you guys netted the fish your self. |
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Location: Twin Cities | No, just would have done my best to explain what to do as I was fighting the fish and him when to net it if possible. |
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Location: New Hope MN | Perhaps you learned something here too. Teach the rookie how to handle the net before you hook one. Tell them how you want things to go down. That lost fish is on you, not your friend. |
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Location: Big Falls MN | I let him net a few small pike before just so he could get some practice I think he just got pumped up and took a stab at her I told the best I could we need to put the fish in the net head first and he had the net in the water she tried to go deep when she got close to the net he tried following her down and that's when she caught the outside of the net.
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Location: The desert | Netting takes some practice. I'm sure he feels terrible and will learn from it. |
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Location: MN | I would not recommend putting the net in the water prior, it's a recipe for disaster. Watch some of Jim Sarics net jobs where the net is in the water before the fish is ready to be netted - horrendous. Remember to teach your partner how to use your camera too  |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Pointerpride102 - 7/29/2013 9:36 PM
Netting takes some practice. I'm sure he feels terrible and will learn from it.
this internet thread ought to cheer him up ... |
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| I've had that happen before. Buddy messed up the net job and lure got caught in the net and the fish was stuck just outside of the net. Fish started headshaking wildly and threw the lure. I didn't really care that much as it was about a 46". I thought it was funny that he later mentioned it was a lost fish. Huh? That's a perfect water release if you ask me...
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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world | Did someone yell "Grab the net" if so it's on the person that directed that and if that wasn't the case you will never know if you could have netted her yourself. It happens.
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Location: Big Falls MN | I cant be mad at the guy just want to vent some. but it was a four foot or better fish I did what I could before hand to prepare him if we did get a good one like that just looking for some opinions if I could've or should have did something different wish he would've learned on a smaller fish |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Back when my wife was my girlfriend, I coached her how to net a fish at the beginning of probably every trip about the netting procedure for the first few times, or at least until she got the chance to net one. She's always done a great job netting fish for me.
I guess the answer to this is up to you. If you have a new person in the boat do you want to try to teach them and rely on their undeveloped skills, and let them learn, or do you want to take matters into your own hands and net all the fish yourself? I'd say either is fine, but decide before a big fish is on the line! One thing I would make sure NOT to do is chew out the new person that botched the net job.
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Location: Big Falls MN | I didn't chew the person out yes I was a bit upset but never gave him a hard time like I said above I wish it was a smaller fish to learn on its just another lost fish here in MN we get a few chances at big fish each summer and fall he will do better next time he tries to net a fish |
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Location: MN | That really sucks. I had a failed net job on one of my fish this year too and it hurts.
Did you call him off when the fish dove deep? I am communicating with my net man the whole time I have a fish on and vice versa. The guy fighting the fish has a better idea when the fish is ready and when to take a shot. This is even more critical when your netman does not have much experience netting big fish. |
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| Ultimately, the person holding the rod lost the fish, move on and catch another. Just part of the game, no way to know if you would have been able to net it yourself without issue either. All part of the chase:) |
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Location: Big Falls MN | I tried to but he took a stab at her any way. just going to have to go back and try again
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| Sorry you lost a big one, I'm sure that sucks for both of you. I think I get more nervous netting a fish for someone else than I do my own. But like someone said before, when I have a newbie in the boat, I have them practice netting first thing. I usually snag a bunch of grass and have them net it like it was a fish. I've done this with women I've taken and also some of my life long fishing buddies when I take them out muskie fishing the first time. They look at me like I am joking, but when I tell them to show me how they're going to net my fish (snagged grass, longer the better), they always grab the net as if it was a small walleye net and either get the basket caught on the side of the boat or struggle once they get the net in the water. I laugh at them and then instruct them how to pick the net up by holding the basket and how and when I want them to put the net in the water. Practice makes perfect |
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Location: Sussex, NJ | It sucks it was a big fish, but I guarantee he will never make that mistake again. S**t happens especially while musky fishing and everyone is gonna make mistakes at one point or another. We've all been there and were due for more mistakes. IMO it was a learning experience and you have to learn from your mistakes. What would I do? I'd go to the netman and say you know what we made a mistake, you'll learn from it, and im still confident in you so lets go net an even bigger one! That'll give him a confidence boost and he'll be ready for the next one |
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| My philosophy is that I value the friendship with my boat partner more than the fish--any fish.
Make sure the landing procedure is rehearsed in advance. Hey, an honest mistake is nothing to be upset about. If you watch the Musky Hunter TV, even the pros have problems once in a while.
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Location: NorthCentral WI | Talk about overthinking something... It's really not hard.
1) Head first, always!
2) Wait until you (the netman) can scoop the whole fish.
3) Don't be a dumbass!
Personally, I wouldn't be happy about it but I'd let it go. Tournament or league situation and you'd be getting an earfull.
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| Both my wife and my boss from work have informed me that I need to practice my nice "net talk" within the last couple of weeks.
And, it didn't help that I accidentally whacked my wife in the head with my reel while she was netting a fish for me on Saturday. |
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| hind sight sucks......hand the rookie the rod, tell him to have fun and coach him through the fight. Your the net man for him to learn. |
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Location: Big Falls MN | he would've got an ear full if it was a tourney |
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| What would I do? Well, first of all I'd make #*^@ sure ahead of time that whomever it was knew how to net a fish. But should someone botch a net job like happened in your situation? I'd handle it one of two ways.
1. If it was a rookie making a rookie mistake, I'd just tell them what went wrong. I'd probably share a story or two of net jobs that I've blown over the years to make him feel better. End of discussion.
2. If it was someone who should know better? Ohhh... They'd probably hear stuff like this:
"get the net. Don't f--- up."
"am I gonna have to hand land all my fish from now on?"
"just remember, the fish goes INSIDE the net..."
"maybe you ought to turn the net around and whack this one with the handle so you can net it right this time"
"I hope ya don't ---- like ya net fish!"
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| I reccomend an out of control fit of rancor, followed by at least 5 minutes of brawling. End by tossing him in the lake. Be sure to mix in all of the appropriate 4 letter words and other terms of derision. Maybe some road rage on the way back from the lake just as a reminder.
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| You could always toss him in the lake and then net him. Then say "see, now THERE'S the right way to run a net!"
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Location: Elgin, IL | Make him buy you dinner at a nice steak joint. |
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Location: Big Falls MN | He bought a bunch of beers that night |
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| Muskyfisher - 7/30/2013 4:36 PM
He bought a bunch of beers that night
Edited by BenR 7/30/2013 4:53 PM
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| I agree with the comments which others have made about giving new folks in your boat some netting and camera instructions at the start of the day. Sounds like you gave your pal some practice, but there's no need to make him feel worse.
One thing I like to do with rookies, when anyone in the boat hooks a muskie, is to remind everyone to take their time and do things step-by-step. Continue that philosopy once the muskie is safely in the net and still in the water. Get the release tools, put on the gloves (if you use them), make sure your eyes are protected with sunglasses or safety glasses before you lean over the net, unhook the muskie, ready the camera, lift the fish, snap the photo, release, high-five! Repeat
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Location: Minnesota. | You got ammo. now...*G*
Yeah, if he a rookie it was up to you to make sure you demo'd. the net procedure prior.
I'll bet he feels like crap. Not much sense in rubbing it in ...(too much)..:-)
Teach him b/c that sucks! Keep that bag out of the way until the moment. And hold the bag up from the bottom until...you lead her in. Keep it simple.
Bummer, man. I'd feel "that rotten feeling" in my stomach if it were me. |
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| I like Brad P's and esoxaddict's advice! As someone who just netted his first musky for someone, I can't imagine how bad I would feel had I messed it up. But, we are also guys and messing with each other's minds is what we do right. So, I would suggest that after he successfully nets his first fish for you you simply tell him "At least you didn't @!#! that one up." Then give him a high five and tell him you were just messing with him. |
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| its called catch and release!!! you had her on, you felt her! you saw her! when just fishing its for fun, for money then you get peeeeeeeeed! rookies make mistakes.we all have,hopefully you both will learn, coach!!!! |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Muskyfisher - 7/30/2013 4:36 PM
He bought a bunch of beers that night
What kind? Hope it wasn't Keystone Light. |
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Location: Big Falls MN | haha wasn't keystone light some good ol pbr |
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| Use it as fodder to mercilessly give him sh*t for the next 20 years or so! I had an "experienced" co-angler do that on a 5 lb eye in a FLW tourney a few years ago. This was after he already botched 2 fish earlier in the day, one netting, and one reeling. I just baited up, and never said another word to him, and I reeled in and netted the rest of the fish that day. But that was in a tourney, and it cost me money. Fun fishing, it's not that big a deal. Stuff happens. As said, use it as a teaching lesson. |
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Location: Big Falls MN | Shep that sucks |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Same thing happened with a huge fish I had on and my then 19 year old at the net. Hung the bait just outside the net and the fish threw the bait which was the only thing left in the net. He was devastated but I said there'd be other fish. That summer there weren't. I've simplified the advice to just scoop the fish snout first right into the bottom of the net, and keep the big net outta the water. He still thinks he's bad luck in the boat. But he and his 18 year old brother are the best partners I have. He needs to get a big fish of his own. We'll get there! |
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Location: Oregon | Go over how to net it with your friend next time but remember to not take it too serious. Remember fishing is supposed to be fun, try to keep it that way. This fish won't be your last.
RM
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What would you guys have done