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| Have any one of you guys out there tried this rod for muskies?
I'm mostly thinking of the salt water #10 or #12, right now i have an old no name #7, with a "Cortland 333 bass rocket taper" that i used a bit for smaller "flash-flies", and it works fine in calm weather but as soon there's a bit of wind it's a pain in the but to cast, with flies larger than 5-6 inch. Beside that i would like to be able to cast some bigger rabbit skin flies, and poppers.
I know casting distance also depends a lot on how experienced an fly angler you are, and i'm not expecting to cast 5 or 2 times as far with the heavier rod or anything, just looking for and opinion on how these rods would handle some of the bigger flies i would like to give a go. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I've used the Saltwater 10 and 12 extensively and the 10 does throw large flies very well (I don't use any smaller than 6"). 12 does too but it's way too much rod. I use a 400 gr sink tip but I think 375 would work too.
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| Thanks a lot for The information. 
But Cloud you specify "Way to much rod" ? |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I was gonna say the same thing....12 is too much. "Too much" means that when you get to 12's and above, they're not casting rods, but are fighting rods. Sure you can cast them, but they're meant for tarpon, sailfish, billfish and such where you may only actually cast a few times a day, but then fight a fish for an hour or two. The rod itself is heavier, stiffer and will wear you out. Not to mention, having to cast the 450-600 gr line needed to load that rod all day will destroy your shoulder. 10 is fine for 95% of muskie fishing. |
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Location: South-Central PA | Ditto. A 12wt isn't built to cast but to fight huge fish. Too much rod!
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| Thanks a ton for the clarification, it makes a lot of sense, sounds like the #10 i exactly like i am looking for
Is there any line you would recommend ?
I was looking at the "Cortland precision pike" or the "RIO Pike/musky fly line" |
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Location: Smith Creek | Don't have experience with those, I've used Airflo 40+ (sink tip 380 grain) and SA Mastery Streamer (sink tip 400 grain) and both work well. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I'm not a fan of "pike/muskie" lines. They're not bad, but if you ever cast a Rio Outbound, you'll never even buy a pike/muskie line again. |
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| Esoxfly is it The "coldwater outbound" or The "coldwater outbound short" you are reffering to ?
Beside that, Are there any other rods you (and other) would prefer over The St Croix LE saltwater #10? It have to be saltwater "friendly" |
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Location: Smith Creek | I've heard good things about Beulah rods for the big stuff, I've also used St. Croix's Imperial and Legend X, both are softer in the tip than the Elite, bigger loops, the Imperial doesn't have quite the lifting power of the other 2, but is a great rod for the coin. |
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Location: Denmark | First, sorry for hijacking the tread.
But I am pretty much jumped on the fiberglass cult wagon, just love the smoothness of these slow moving rods. Haven't been throwing fiberglass for years, I was surprised the other day, how far and fine my Fenglass rod cast in decent wind conditions.
Now looking for a new fiberglass 8" AFTM 8/9? |
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Location: Denmark | Flambeauski - 7/25/2013 3:34 PM
I've heard good things about Beulah rods for the big stuff, I've also used St. Croix's Imperial and Legend X, both are softer in the tip than the Elite, bigger loops, the Imperial doesn't have quite the lifting power of the other 2, but is a great rod for the coin.
I was considering the Imperial, but now I am not so sure. Would love to cast it, but it's not available in any shops over here. Is their any other rods you would compare the Imperial to?, and are we talking about the latest version of the Imperial? |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Zinox - 7/25/2013 1:52 PM Esoxfly is it The "coldwater outbound" or The "coldwater outbound short" you are reffering to ? Beside that, Are there any other rods you (and other) would prefer over The St Croix LE saltwater #10? It have to be saltwater "friendly" Both. All of the Outbound. Intermediate, S1, S3, S6, S8, T11 and T14 Custom. I probably have 25-30 Outbound lines and every single one of them is a rocket that does what each is intended to....shallow, deep, etc. I build my rods on Sage blanks and they're top notch blanks. They don't need to be a saltwater rod, but I like the faster action and power of saltwater rods. I fish salt as much as I do sweetwater, so any rod I make, even with a blank not intended for salt, I build with saltwater-safe components. St. Croix's fly blanks have come lightyears from where they used to be and are great rods now. It's almost..."almost"...not impossible...tough to find a crappy rod these days. Even most of the Chinese rods are of very nice quality. |
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| Thanks a ton for The all the help, can't wait to get started with The bigger flies |
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