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| This idea floated about the net about 2 years ago....and wondering if anyone would be interested in actually doing it?
Possible Rules:
1. Younger Team: under 40
2. Older Team: 41+
3. Long Hours (who can hack it stil)...say 6AM to 8PM.
PRELIMINARY DATE: July 12th
PRELIMINARY LOCALE: Petenwell Flowage
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| Bring it on you young whippersnappers !!!! Lets rumble!!!! |
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| When and where? Jeez, I'm only 43, and you guys make me feel so old.[:knockout:] |
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| Thinking the END of November....maybe Petenwell Flowage?
*here's why:
-most people probably HAVEN'T fished the Pete (neither have I)
-its BIG, probably wont freeze up
-its BIG, can accomidate the 25 boats of young hot shots vs. the 25 boats of old farts.
-end of November because just about everything else muskie-wise is DONE, and only the strong will survive in these cold elements (ie. the younger pups will endure, the old farts will be clamoring for hot chocolate laced metamucil!)
-its central WI, northern WI peeps can make it, Northern IL peeps can make it, central WI peeps, and the tougher MN. guys can make it.
Slamr
*we can make this on a Sunday if need be, so the older team can have Friday night and Saturday to drive it....you know when you get old you sometimes need to take a few EXTRA rest stops....or so I'm told. |
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| Mike Koepp....you have a partner...
Bring it on boys...if ya don't have to be home before the street lights come on...[:bigsmile:]
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| Ranger- come on down!!!! Let's show these pup's what its about!!!![:0] [8)] [:bigsmile:]
Al Warner
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| Worrall, are you reading this crap? I think we should plain and simple put up a case of pure whoop a$$ on this young punk. Whataya say old man? I don't know one D--- thing about that body of water but I bet they bite Jigs in Nov. This Old Fart says you guys are on. [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] |
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| I'm there, Al! Those disrespectful whippersnappers, it's like the students challenging the professors, for gosh sakes.
Latter part of November is a problem, though - that's firearm deer season, two weeks of High Holiday in the Yoop. |
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| jason if theeds cant make it can you fish out of a ranger? one of the lakes that i do know. bring on the pups.
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| Im in, the young will outlast the old farts......LOL. Slamr the hours you set up for the end of November are fine if you like fishing in the dark, and risk the chance of lead whizzing by your melon.... But hell the way all the Cocky old people are being, I am in. NO OFFENSE OLD FARTS.. So, now that being said, who is going to be my partner.
Jim
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| Slamr-my vote is for end of October- Doesn't interfere with gun deer season, either in WI or MI. Everything here this year froze up in November- End of November was ice fishing on the Pete. Totally screwed up my 2002 end of season plans. Maybe next year is a La Nina- hot & spicy?
Ranger, by the time these youngsters figure out a pattern- we'll be locked into a win!!! [:bigsmile:] Maybe have to break out the 10" power auger, portable shanty, and the airboat, but we'll be havin a good time.[:bigsmile:] Tip-up's w/ quick strikes & jigging Zalts or creatures through the ice for Muskies???[:0]
Al Warner
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| Wake me up when you decide...........[::)] |
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| Jim K, there's lot's of slime from the Pete that's seen the floor of my boat. I'm in to take on the fossil's of the muskie world!! |
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| Mr. Medic EMT-P. Derek you got a deal, we can be team rescue, because by the end of the day I will be giving the old farts oxygen, and you can be shooting them up with some magical liquid. So, I'm game if you are.... How many bottles should I bring????
Jim
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| Why not July....when its 90 degrees out on that dark brown water. And is one of the better times on that water, really.
A hot summer day..that will be a test![;)] [:)] |
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| Man Slamr - you're making me feel old (LOL)!
I just turned 36 eleven days ago............get out the wheel chairs - I'm in! |
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| July? Not a bad idea Jason. No wonder there were so many positive responses about November from those old farts and their creatures. Those old egotistical geezers won't be able to chuck big baits all day in heat and then stay up late enough to see the sun go down in the heat of July. Bring it on! |
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| I think the name of the outing should be called the "First Annual MuskieFirst Geriatric vs. Juvenille Outing" |
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| I'm in on this, on the old guy side. Didn't see too many younguns keepin up with me at Dooley's, and I bet they felt a lot worse the next morning! Landy, I think we should kick some kiddy butt![:bigsmile:] |
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| July would be a great time to do it, topwater should be rocking at that time. |
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| The fear of god in Luke Chinewalker? And all over the worries of a feeble bunch of oldsters and their "Creature Habits". Just remember boys, folks like Worrall and me were throwing jerk baits when you young guys were still pooping in your pants. I think I have seen everything now. Let me see, so far the youngsters threw down the gauntlet, they also picked the lake, they also picked the hours, by gosh I think that they also picked the date. No wait, hold on, just back that dang Muskie bus up here a second or two. The young pups are scared of the creature bite so we are going change dates. Ok. and I think that I speak for at least some of the folks in my "geriatric generation" we will fish against you young pups at any time, place, date etc. I just surly hope that you pick a Saturday or Sunday that I don't already have booked. Would be a sad moment indeed if you punks took the easy way out. I see the handwriting on the wall now. Those old guys are busy during the Summer months, let's do this July, maybe some of them won't be able to come. Hehehehehe Let's get the date set so that the planning can begin. Also, what's on the line here besides bragging rights? Are we talkin' baits, $$$ what? What are you going to do, to make this worth part of what little time I have left? Bragging rights may be enough at that.................[:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] |
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| October & November I'm already on the water every day,so I couldn't drive my old fart body out to compete with the new kids on the block.Steve W. your going to have to take em on single handed,casting sunup to sundown.
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| I can not read this! I need my glasses. |
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| I'm good for July.....I will admit I HATE chuckin in the HEAT....but to knock the dependz off of some old f***ers, I will sweat in style. How about we do shirts off if it's hot? Even if we don't win, at least we wont look as bad as the old geezers!
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| Hey Kid Rock (aka:Slamr)
Sounds good, I would love to teach the youngins' a thing or two about the great sport of muskie fishing. However, I do need assurance of a few things here:
1.) A signed note from your mothers, that its alright if you participate (NO FORGERIES PLEASE)
2.) There be NO Sesame Street songs being sung during fishing hours
3.) The following questions are not allowed:
3A.) Where do babys come from?
3B.) Can I be a fireman when I grow up?
3C.) Is Uncle Ralph really my uncle?
The afore mentioned criteria should afford us more mature and seasoned veterans of this sport an enjoyable day on the water.
Youth will never outwit the cunning achieved only by age, wisdom, and experience! |
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| HHHHHMMMM....now you've got me thinking.....loud music to blare from the rig while running....thinking something peaceful and quiet like God Smack or Kid Rock. Sometimes it's better to be hated than loved.
Slamr
*Sponger....any chance you can honorary captain of Team Depends? |
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| I guess I'll have to bring my old Black Sabbath tapes!!!![:bigsmile:]
I don't think the youngsters can handle "WAR PIGS" at 5:00am[:0]
July, October, November, Whatever time of year you want to get you A$$ES kicked, you just let us know[:devil:]
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| MRG,
I think you've been holed up in your basement for too long. Put the spray paint down, turn off the Bing Crosby and get ready to get your no-musky-fishing butt kicked.
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| "War Pigs" at 5AM.....that plan will most surely backfire. I track the music that I hear on the radio as an indicator of my day's success (nothing else ever tells me accurately what to expect to be honest.)....and as I recall, the morning that you and I fished together, I heard both War Pigs and Paranoid that morning....
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| That I can be Slamr! But I'll have to "coach" from here. I'm still cracking up over Muskyone and Mike Gs posts!!! Get everything organized and I'll figure out a training/dietary program for the "Walker Brigade". At 49, and w/ the flexibility of a stand up tuna rod,I've broken, torn, dislocated, or sprained most everything but me neck, yet feel the vigor of me former youth returning as I envision the event! As this epic drama begins to unfold, I vaguely recall episodes of a younger generation presenting challenges to the previous generation...then, as now, the follies of youthful rebellion led to a belladonic thought pattern that ended up in shattered hopes of the youngos...stick a fork in the Jr. dudes...they're done![:sun:] |
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| 36 and an old geezer, eh? Pat, Mr. Hellraiser? Think we should knuckle up and join in on the "Gangs of Musky1st"??
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| Any chance we can get Pfeiffer-Grant to face off (and lose to) against the young-ins?
Slamr
*hey people of the Generation X and whatever age group....where the HELL are you? |
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| Slamr, what do you mean. you have at least 2 people on your side, we cant help it were busy, remember old people always go out in numbers, to eat, to vote etc, etc...... We wont be able to beat them in numbers of people but we can smoke them in number of fish.
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| What's that make, Slamr? Only a couple of you young punks willing to get a can of Whoop-Ass opened up on you? Where are all you snot-nosed little brats hiding?! C'mon! Time to stand up for a change. Stop hiding behind mama's skirt! I'll even bring Kool-Aid for you, and maybe cookies. July is good for me. Besides, school will be out, so all the kid's will be on summer break. |
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| The Young'uns are prepared to hand defeat to our decrepit foes. But as the silent masses, we prefer to watch quietly and let our actions speak for us.
Trash talking is all those old guys have, so we'll hold our tongues... lest we're named as defendants in "Elder Abuse" class action lawsuits.
The Gen-X'ers stand ready to plunder the waters of p-well. [;)] |
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| No hiding going on here....I'm in, Luke Chinewalker is in, and I know that Jimmy K is in. We'll build our numbers, just that most of OUR generation is probably at work, putting a large portion of our paychecks to pay for YOUR social security payments.
Slamr
*yes I'm talking trash, and I plan on talking trash til the youngsters take the title on this day. |
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| Count me in for the "old farts". Youngsters, make shure you ask your Mommy's for permission.lol[:p] |
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| I think we need Worrall to make a nice traveling plack that us old guy's can hang on to for the next few years!!!![:bigsmile:]
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| Count me in for the "old farts". Youngsters, make shure you ask your Mommy's for permission.lol[:p] |
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| That's actually not a bad idea. Those old guys would like the plaque idea. Sort of a traveling trophy. One of those second place, also-ran "Thank you for participating..." plaques maybe? I think us young guys could pony up a few $s for a consolation prize like that.
Oh geez... I told myself I wouldn't let myself get caught up in this, but I'm powerless now. [:devil:] |
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| Slamr,Slamr.....Now you've done it.I will be with the old farts!!!At 35 , I just make it.Some of the old dudes have forgotten more about the "Green Fish" than the young guns will ever know(of course I'm not one of them)!!!I'm in.M-1 and I will bring team Sage and the pups won't have a chance!!! Steve[:bigsmile:] |
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| What was the line that was drawn? At 30 y/o? SLAMR, you might want to raise that to 40y/o. At 41 I'm still with the old farts, but the change will ensure "The Sprats" (my name for the youngsters, comes from I Go Pogo) have a fair number of "good sticks" on the team. I might be wrong, but I'm betting the vast majority of M1 regulars are over 30y/o. Worrall and Jason, what do you think? |
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| Since there seems to be a large out-numbering of old timers, I will have to step up for the side of the young guys. How many old guys DOES it take to catch a muskie...? |
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| Oh, the line is 35. Well, you still might want to kick it to 40. |
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| Just changed it to under 40 is younger team....41+ is the elder statesman of the group.
So, can we get an un-official, 5 months early list of the pairings?
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| Where might this "Super Sewer Challunge" take place? For safety sake, it should be an area where the youngsters can be observed from the bank by a responsible adult...w/ all these "Jrs" signing up, Waldo Mart better stock up on the Tweetie Bird Combos! [;)] [:0] |
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| Sponger,
Thou shall not talk de smack if thou wont be in de water to get smacked by de youngins! Actually, talk it, your older peers won't walk it anyways!
On the Youngster Team (as far as I can tell):
1. Slamr
2. Luke_Chinewalker
3. Jason Smith
4. Scott Jenkins
5. Ralph Florio
6. Steve Jonesi
7. Jimmy K
*****this isn't fair, it's an ALL-STAR TEAM already!
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| The younger age should be under 40 because,not enough of the younger fishermen speeking up. Lets get it on you whippersnappers, you might learn something. We should do this when school is out so more time for the younger generation to practice. This is going to be a good running thread, keep in mind that this is harmless rippin and if someone gets pissed off by someone else, use it as a motivator on the water. With that said get the permission slips ready for the little guys and pack the pain killers for the old guys. Lets get ready to rumble on the water !!!![:bigsmile:] |
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| It looks like some good sticks already for the little guys, we should not feel bad about putting them in their place. Long live the old guys !!![:bigsmile:] |
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| Screw niceness....if someone angers me here, me and Azrael will exact revenge the day of!!! Don't take that outboard out of nuetral and running Old People....20hp in a black death machine can get my aluminum through your fiberglass awful quick!
Slamr
*experience home computer problems of a seriously annoying nature today....this thread is helping me to exercice my frustrations. But yes, I will still run all of you over. |
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| This is a direct Quote from MNesox. "The age bracket should be 0-25 26-40 and 40-Worrall."
I think this would really make things interesting.
SLAMR, JULY WILL WORK AS LONG AS ITS NOT THE WEEKEND OF 19th-21st. Either before or after will work but not that weekend.
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| I am in. As long as the event is before the 19th of July. Going to be a little busy that day with the future Mrs Running_Hot. I dont think I can ask her to change the date for a fishing tourney!
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| July 12th? 6AM launch time? Make that 6-9AM for the older folks who might be taking a little while getting going that early.
Slamr
*can't do July 19th either, have to attend the Running Hot wedding. HR make a good wedding gift? Something he'll like, but trade to me for something I will end up getting back later anyways. |
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| I might be able to pull it off for a July 12 date. Still a bit far out for me, though. If someone needs a boat partner I would gladly join the non over the hill group.
ANdy
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| Yep, that's what I thought, another rule change. I'll bet that this isn't the last one either. Seems the the younger generation can't or won't put up, so I think that they better SHUT UP,LOL. Should have known that they would not dare to stick to their own rules for more that a day or two. Won't be long until us old farts have to fish with one hand tied behind our back. That would make reeling a little tough. This is going to be great. But you have no idea how much S*** you youngsters are going to gather if we win orrrrrrr if I catch any of you so called HE MEN trolling. That should be off limits for young studs like I hear crowing on this thread. The gloves are off little boys. It's time for us to open up big can of Whoop A$$. I only hope that we embarass the young crowd so much that they can't show their faces 'round here no more. [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] [:devil:] |
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| I would love to take part in this "beat up the Old Folks" tourney. July is the only problem that I might have.. I'll be fishing Canyon Lake from the 12th through the 18th.
If the little battle of the Ages doesnt fall on those dates, I'm in! [:)]
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| Slamr,
As of right now I have nothing on the calendar for July 12th and would love to join forces with the dark side. Count me in for the not so old crew.
I was always taught to respect my elders and not to talk back to them no matter how wrong they may be so I will end this post here.[:devil:] |
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| OK....
What date and lake has been officially decided on...?
Should we move this post to the M1st. outtings board. No it's not an official outing but it will be easier to keep track of..
One thought guys....
In WI there is a law that says any event over ??? number of boats constitutes a tournament and requires a DNR tournament permit.
I think we best be careful as to how we procede with this..
Other than that let's get a date. lake so we can make plans..
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| Uh Oh!!!!!
Slamr, I think you might have to put my name down for this one. Maybe I can lead us younger, wiser, quicker, better looking guys to the trophy. LOL. We should try to get Chad Cain on this one.
LOL, on my boat I might have to go ghetto style to piss off the old guys (Jay-Z, Wu-Tang) lol.
I say the heat is the real test.
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| Slamr,
Count me in on the young guns team. I can't pass up an opportunity to make those old guys feel more inadequate than they already do.
You old dudes better stock up on your Geritol, Depends and get that walker oiled up too. It’s gonna be along day.
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| I'M IN !!![:bigsmile:] |
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| Old or young Mr. Schaeffer?
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| I'm in with Jim K for a partner. July 12th works for me. |
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| Count me in, went from the original old team to the new young team. That makes me feel a little better. As far as SLMR's earlier post on all "All Stars" on the young team, I will put a quick end to that by throwing my name in the hat.
Can't wait.
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| I have spoken my last about this adventure, I cannot make it either on July 12th or the 19th due to previous engagements. July 12th is the WMT on Butternut and I have allready paid the $260.00. The 19th is, well, dare I say it. A baitfish tourney, yes I still fish a few of those but only the ones around home. This one is on Balsam Lake and is worth $3,500.00. It will also be the 24th straight year in which I have fished this tourney. Sorry guys, but if those are the only days possible I will take back all I said in previous posts as I will not be there to defend myself. Sure wish you had left the darn thing in October or November. Would have loved to see all you hooligans in action. I will be there in spirit however pulling for the old guys but hoping that you young whippers keep it close. [:knockout:] |
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| July 12-13th is no go for me, too. RCL tourney to fish that weekend. Besides, I'll be a year older after that, so I could really rub it in on you younguns. I liked the Novemeber idea originally, but what ever. I ain't afraid of no heat, or cold. I see you younsters out there, working the water to a froth with the way you work those baits! Some day you'll learn, it's not how hard you fish, it's how smart you fish! hehehe. Gonna enjoy seeing you kids wilt like lettuce in the heat![:praise:] [:bigsmile:] [:knockout:]
Fellow old guys, notice how quick Slamr was to change the age limit when he found out a couple previously qualified old timers were just over the threshold? This, after changing the date from November to July when they thought about the jig bite!! They're already worried!![;)] Wonder when they're gonna start backing out? |
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| Looks like all the OLDER GENTLEMAN are finding reasons to NOT fish this event....hhhhmmmm, weasel out early is a very good plan!
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| Maybe have two events. July and late fall!
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| Then put it back in the fall! Like you started out with. You've changed the date, and then the age limit. What's next??!! Don't be blaming us old guys for planning ahead. That's called organization, something you kids have no idea about. You live day-to-day, with no thought of tommorrow. I think Slamr just remembered taking some pics of an awesome fall fish of mine, and it made him afraid of the fall bite for the oldsters! |
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| We think it should be changed to how many years you have been Musky fishing!! We are older but have been Musky fishing for 2 1/2 years now. That is young in musky years!! |
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| Shep, I saw that fish, she was so beat up, caught so many times....like some OLD FRIENDS of mine that where described to be like DOORKNOBS....everybody gets a turn. IN NO WAY would you catching that "community fish" scare me.
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| Yup, I can catch them fall fatties, even when they are conditioned by previous CPR's!![:bigsmile:]
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| To reply to the poster above about laws protecting our elders....I do believe if we whip the snot out of you old buzzards that the law will be all over us for beating the elderly.
I think I have the answer to all the weak knee'd old geezers protesting about the recent age change (that's you Shep) proposed by that little kid who threw the first stone at the geriatric solarium (That's you slamr).....
Instead of worrying now about what the age break should be why dont' we first figure out the best date that works for the most people. THEN when we know who's in, take the average age of each team, add the teams ages up to determine the median age and use that median age as the break point. That way there are an equal number of teams on each side of the age break line. Considering that the cost to get started in this god-foresaken sport, I'll bet the median age is close to when you get to sign up for AARP. |
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| Shep the innovator, using the BRAND NEW tactic of throwing a 6" Reef Hawg on the weed edge to catch those heavily conditioned fishes. Sorry I just let your cat out of the bag here buddy, there goes the article.
Slamr
*seriously Shep, that was a beauty of a fish, and about 44" LONGER than me and my partner where able to manage that day. |
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| Slamr, not innovative, just smart to throw the right bait, at the right time, in the right spot, with the right action.[;)] Thanks for the compliment, though.
Luke, you are right. I am weak-knee'd. Well, the right one anyway. Doc can't figure out what is causing the swelling, even though I can feel the cartilage crunching around in there! But you do have a good idea on the median age. And yes, it may just be on the upper end. Gee, maybe I can become a whippersnapper again![;)] |
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| I'm in for the young ones. I think I speak for a quite a few of us if some of the old timers keep the shirts on...
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| I'm in sounds like a blast to me.I'll be needing a partner for the younger team though.40 geez thats old!!
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| I'm in on this as long as I can make it (work schedule isn't very flexible).
Also, I'm in on the old farts team. First, my daughters almost as old as Slamr and second, my partners are all old. Besides, I made the old farts team until Slamr noted the error of his ways and "bent the rules" in his favor.
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| Seems like reality is beginning to sink in....whatever that is! I'm working on a menu for the Walker Brigade now, and will have a low profile workout ready w/in days...they won't have to take their shirts off, they will split open w/ their first cast! Next month I'm supposed to get steroid shots in me right hip, pelvis and back at the V.A., which would give me an unfair advantage.[;)] I may forgo the shots until after Cave Run to show the "Jrs" what an determined middle aged hard head is capable of![:sun:] |
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| I'll be fishing with the youngins ! yaaaa [:sun:] |
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| I feel young again!!!!!!!!!
Maybe there is a chance to still grow some hair........
Ahhhhh, hairs overrated anyway...... |
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| Ok Slamr!!!!!
You started this.....you put this together. I gave you the time frame on the area and gave you the campground (Deer trail) to stay at.
Time for you to start this on the outings page.[;)] [:p]
I think the young guns have a chance....I know for a fact that Bryan Schaefer and myself have caught more then a few muskies on the Petenwell..hahaha[;)] [:p] [:bigsmile:] |
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Maybe the young guns have a chance....hey Slamr!
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| Smith - that looks like 10 years and 60lbs ago! |
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| Was that after Duck Pin Bowling practice Jason??? That pics gotta be 20 yrs old![;)] |
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| Id love to be part of this but........ how many points or inches do we have to handicap the youngsters to get them to show up. I say do it on a saturday. Losers buy the beer. The old farts will win and be the last ones standing.................... Now I have caused trouble I think.........Pfeiff |
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| Count me in for the young guys. I have a couple trips coming up this fall, but if the date gets bumped, I still have quite a few months to be creative with explanations for the warden. Not sure if any date that get's picked will work out for the old guys though. There's always a birthday for a grandkid, an AARP convention, or a pesky prostate exam to interfere with fishing dates.
If you're using median age to break out teams, I'm 33.
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| Jenkins, if you want to see some newer photos of me with fish I am sure I look the same as those 8 year old pics.[:p]
The last times I fished it was twice in 2001 and once in 2002. I got two muskies 35",39" and Bill schwartz got a 41" muskie and a 38" pike. Then on a second 1/2 day trip with the Handyman he got a 37". In 2002 I fished it with Painter and died.[:p]
It can be a productive water...but its either..HOT or NOT. That is what I have found over the years and thats flowages in a nut shell.[;)] |
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| To Sir Sponge & the rest of the "gentlemen" anglers of the over 40 crowd, I look forward to meeting you all in the winners circle. War Pigs? I dont think so, I just put a new CD player,amp, & speakers in "Mama's Regala" (my dear sweet LUND) so I am leaning towards a little "Bloodrock" at 5:00 AM Possibly, their hit tune "Kool Aid Kids" just to promote a little excitement for the young folk.
July 12th, etched in granite as I write this. Oh, and by the way, here is a litte tip for the kids (under 40)that will be trying to catch muskies.
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| Unfortunately Mike G., I'll have to "coach" from the discomfort of this "box"...unless a "cash cow" wanders into the barn and dies on me door step! [:sun:]
I strongly suggest the Walker Brigade start getting pumped by listening to some Perry Como, Andy Williams, Lawrence Welk... once your fishing partner is confirmed, get together w/ him and watch some re-runs of the "Sing Along With Mitch"(Miller) show and refine your musical talents.
As far as diet goes, get started on the Burl "Chives" Ives Feeding Frenzy; a giant baked potato smothered in sour cream, creamery butter, salt, fresh ground pepper, a handful of chives, and intermittent shots of Tabasco sauce. For breakfast the next morning, start off w/ a hot mug of Gill Hotel or Lousianne chicory java, then a small tub of Lucky Charms. Next feast on a bowl of grits, 2 cat head biscuits, 4 slices of country ham and a quart of V-8 juice. Lunch should consist of a half bushel of steamed clams laced w/ lemon juice and hot sauce, a lb. of saltfish, 6 pieces of salt rising bread or a 10" skillet of jalepeno cornbread; fried oysters can be substituted for the clams if you wish. Desserts should consist of Pay Days, Pay Days, or Pay Days, depending upon availability. Drink a six pack of Coke Colas throughout the day to flush out any impurities you may have in you from the day before. Once you have become conditioned to this southern way of eating, you'll be surprised at just how much vim and vigor you have! I'll get into mental preparation at a later date...first you gotta get that frame in shape![:0] |
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| OK, I have studiously ignored this thread becasue of the schedule I have had the last couple weeks, but can no longer sit idly by and let the snot nosed young punk fanny barely figured out the anti backlash feature young'ns pick on the veterans of the 'muskie wars' any longer. Muskyone, sure. I am in if you are. Slamr, be VERY careful to stay away for Deer Hunting dates in WI, looking especially at rifle and black powder.
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| Steve Worrall in the July heat on the Petenwell.........hmmm this is a sight I have to see.[;)]
That dark water makes it like fishing on pavement![:bigsmile:] |
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| Hey, Annon, if you are going to use my name in a post when its cocky at least put your name to it or leave mine out. I have been cocky enough dont need the help in making more people mad at me...
E is that you
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| Steve, if the wet behind the ears crowd insists on July the 12th I will not be able to make it. So sorry but I am fishing the WMT tourney on Butternut that day. If the date is changed to later in the year I will try to make it. But as things stand right now all I can give you guys is my moral support. |
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| Sweatin' with the Old Guys, Jason, just Sweatin' with the oldies. I am looking forward to it. I hope it rains. |
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| Anybody mind if I pawn my father off with the old guys? I sure don't...save a spot for him.
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| Don't know if I'll get tony to fish this one so I might need a partner. Keep it mind and check woth me as it gets closer.. July 12 sounds ok to me. Better then november.
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| Now that it seems the snot-nosed, thumb-sucking, testosterone filled toddlers have got all the rules changed to their liking, count me in for the Geritol crowd. My normal partner is a member of the diaper brigade, so I'll need a partner, my boat or yours. Let the war begin![:)] |
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| One minute I'm with the "OLD TIMERS" next minute I'm getting my diaper changed!!!!![:0]
Let's get a solid date going here so everyone can make it. |
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| Ill come i can team up with plitzzz.And hand out canes and walkers after the tournament to the old farts!
Whats for lunch Fiber bran,bran muffins,bran drink? |
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| I'm in if I can team with another oldie but goodie. My usual partner is on a family vacation and wedding trip during the July 12th weekend.
Last year on Petenwell huge schools of carp were rolling like pods of killer whales.
Anyone need a 51 year old partner? ghoti?
Buddy
Once when I was a little bitty boy my Mama bought me a cute little toy.
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| Just ensuring that the Younger Pups get the last word in (for now)....should we pro-rate the older team start time to allow for things such as:
1. Ben Gay application
2. Various brace attachment to used up body parts
3. Metamucil consumption time
4. Getting lost on the way to the ramp (thinking senility here)
5. Multiple bathroom stops on the way to the lake, at the launch, and then just prior to launching the boat?
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| What is the date?
If it's July 12-13th, all I can do is cheer on the mature guys. I have an RCL tourney to fish that weekend, plus it's my birfday. I certainly don't want to get charged with contributing, considering all the youguns that will be there trying to keep up with us![:bigsmile:] |
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| Not to worry, ancient warriors...if the event is to be held on a Saturday, there is a very real possibility none of the barnyard babies will show up before high noon! Once they get home from summer school that Friday, no doubt they will spend the rest of the afternoon playing Play Station 2...then scramble to clean the house when they hear the 'rents pulling in the driveway...after a power dinner of Fruit Roll Ups, macaroni and cheese washed down w/ a glass of Nestles Quick, they will cruise the streets in a vain attempt to find someone to purchase some beer from a 7-11...frustrated and angry after a night of chasing girls, they will arrive home, flip on the tube, and fall asleep on the couch watching MTV at 2:00am in the morning...dad will wake them up next morning, and they will scramble to the garage w/ a Pop Tart in one hand and a Sunny D in the other, cursing the day of their birth because they can't find that "secret bait"(carton of worms) for the "Showdown"...as they grab their Zebco combos and hop in the back of the station wagon, they ask Mom to remember to tape the Teletubbies for them...the closer they get to the lake, the more reality sets in...stomachs begin to turn...palms become moist, and beads of perspiration pop out on their foreheads like angry bee stings and drip into their eyes...they resemble little toy soldiers about to experience their first fire fight on the kitchen floor...suddenly they retch violently, unable to reach the window handle in time, and puke all over themselves and the back of the seat...Mom pulls off the road in disgust...next thing you know, they're headed back home! Swallow your pride youngos, there is no shame in admission of a wrong unless it is carried out... the stage is set...gracefully bow out NOW, before the curtain rises... [:sun:] |
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| Thats IT!!!! Sponger, you drew the battle lines, til July 13th, there is no SPONGE in my eyes!!! How dare you refer to Mac and Cheese in a negative light???!!!???!!! To build up my passion for this event, and my hatred of my opponents who the YOUNG GUNS will drive into the sediment of the lake bottom.....I am going to imagine that each and every senior citizen that I see (aged 41 and above) is a Sponge, or a Worrall, or a Don Pfeiffer......my blood shall be BOILING by then!!!! I am HOPING to avoid physical and/or traffic altercations, but if you don't hear from me for a few days on here....start checking your local police blotter from days past. It's WAR, you ripped on Mac and Cheese and brought this from Defcon 1 to 4 in one big leap.
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| Boy, now after reading all this, I just sit back and laugh. Sponger, I have to agree with slamr on this one, leave the Mac and Cheese outta it. By the way, when all you old farts show up with your 30k rigs and the rest of us show up in our POS. Then you will relize the difference between looking good and being good. Remember age=wisdom, but I disagree, because they have picked a battle they cant win, so where are their brains and wisdom now......
Man, this is fun, and I know I am ruffling a few depends too......[:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:]
Later
Jim
* Note; No (old People) were hurt, during the typing of this post. |
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| Im in! The young can talk the talk- But can they walk the walk?
HC "Howie Meyer Seven Islands Guide Service Presque Isle Wis |
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| We can talk, we can walk, heck we can even RUN....and we dont need wheelchairs to do it!
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| Easy Junior Mints!! The hallowed macaroni and cheese is in itself not the issue...the fact that you boys eat that pre-packaged imitation of the original is what torments the minds of those who remember better days, when mac/cheese was painstakingly made w/ love and care, not the microwavable snack the "Pepsi Generation" now takes for granted...to get a taste of what "real living" was all about, watch the history Channel this week; they are having 50s Week everyday. From there you will hopefully learn how very hard we slaved/labored to provide you youngsters w/ ALL that you have today!!! Now get upstairs and CLEAN THAT ROOM BOBBY!!!![:sun:] [:sun:] [:sun:] |
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| Jim K,
We picked this fight? I think it was the Slamr hisself who braoched the subject.
My only regret is that, if this event truly is to be held on July 12th, I will not be there to laugh at the young pukers, pulling their jon boats up on the shore, too exhausted to lift them up on the car top, Mickey Mouse rods between their legs, and heads bowed in bitter defeat. Oh, what a glorious victory that will be, to savor the sweet realization, known only to us mature folk, that which shall be earned in battle.
If I cannot be there to partake in this epic confrontation, I will at least be there in spirit. Once the actual count of kiddies participating is known, I will make arrangements for a good healthy breakfast of Rice Krispies with Banana's and skim milk. I will also send Kool Ade and cookies for snack time, and of course, have the green mats send out for nappie time. |
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| Shep, yes slamr had the original Idea, but look back and see who started trash talking first....Hmm seems to me it was you old fellas.....
And I guess, the reason I get really irked is when old people say I did this or that, well I can tell you one thing I have seen stuff that will make most people on this sites head spin, and trust me age is just a number, and does not represent the WISE or ABILITY of anyone. So granted Im only 26, but I have done and seen a lot more than most people twice my age have.
Jim
This outing is going to be a blast. Cant wait to do it, and let the best(YOUNG)team win....
And sponger, I dont eat the mac and cheese outta the box either, I prefer to make my own...
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| Jim,
If you call the term whippersnapper trash talking, then you are right. But the Extreme One may not be 40+, so that would not count, anyway. The next, and what I would qualify as, trash talk was initiated by the dinkmeister hisself, SLAMR!
Just hoping this is will happen on another date that July 12th. I think Slamr called that date because he knew M1 and I couldn't make it![;)] |
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| Shep, yes I call that trash talking because when I was young thats all I was called and it drives me nutzzzzz. Hey, Im open all summer as long as it isnt July 19-21. I would like this to be on a date when we can all agree, but that will never happen. But it sure would be nice to have a lot of peole there and to meet and to have a blast with. Well till Later.
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| Jim...sit down and take a DEEP breath, for what I am about to tell you will wobble your knees...you are STILL YOUNG! Never say "I've seen it all now", because there is more stuff out there to see than any of us will ever see... [::)] [:sun:] |
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| Jimmy K, lets be really really honest here buddy: you are young, and you are a dumba@@. Does being young have anything to do with it? NOPE.
I am young, and I am a dumba@@ too though, but I say it loud and I say it proud.
Mac and Cheese out of the box is much better. Shep, you made comments about Mac and Cheese too, and you called me DINKMASTER, a little I have overcome. I know what your boat looks like, I know what you look like....anywhere you are, and there is a gathering of muskie fisherman, or muskies swimming....watch your back! But then again, at your advanced age, I would try to get one of your grandkids to watch it for you: swiveling your head anything more than 5 degrees from right to left could cause permanent damage.
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| Sponger, never said I have seen it all, but was merly pointing out that some young people have and yes, have seen more to this world than people twice there age, and you cannot argue that. Slamr, I am not a dumbass, and will prove it too you. You actually want to no my IQ score..... Just because I suck at typing doesnt mean Im dumb, just rather standing up for myself. Yes I do respect my elders which you slamr are too me and respect all that they have done for this world, I just get sick of the old saying back in my day, Yes your day was then this is now, and to think you had it so rough blah blah blah. I hope who ever is reading this is not taking this seriously, because I am just trying to ruffle a some feathers in anticipation of the outing.
Later
Jim
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| Count me in I'm 36. The Pet sounds good. Will be on LOTW July 11-19. 8pm for November would be long after dark, but I don't mind the cold one bit.
Next thing you know the old farts will want a handicap. They sure WAAAAAAAA alot.
I think the winner should be the team with the most inches divided by team contestants. That way when only 4 old farts show and get out fished they don't cry like they have been thus far. |
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| The old farts will never catch a muskie on a cane pole!When they cast they prolly hook there self on there seats and stand around for an hour looking to see if its comming up from the depths.They prolly will have walter croncik(Sp)on the team. |
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| WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!![:0]
WHERE'S THE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!![:halo:]
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| There is all sorts of love here, this is all just fun and games. I hope everyone relizes that, I am just being a smarta$$. and not trying to offend anyone.....
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| Phew! Jimmy I was just about to call the guys in the white coat with the tranquilizers and send them north to you....they left a card last time they were here taking care of me.
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| Hee hee heeee...another round of buttermilk for the tykes! You boys need to sit around the radio and listen closely to the old southern spiritual "Nobody knows...the trouble I've seen"...back in the old days...sorry, almost dozed off in me rocker![::)] I took the IQ test back in '69...scored around 120 or a little better best I remember, but I was still dumber than a jack-o-lantern; never could get all those cells aimed in the same directions...common sense will roll over book sense, as will experience and a will to do what it takes; these attributes are learned, both through many mistakes/failures, and there are no short cuts. A hen w/out a head is still a chicken, but if you want to eat the chicken, you gotta be willing to put forth the effort to make it right; get hungry enough, the job seems easier. Now gather 'round grasshoppers, while I share some mo..... [:sun:] |
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| How about Walleye Guys against you so called musky guys?
BTW I will be 35 in June so I guess I'm an old guy that sounds too wierd. |
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| Buddy, if the Huggies crowd can still make it come July, I'd be happy to share a boat seat with you. Drop me an e-mail when the time gets closer. If I recall, the original outing that Sir Slamr was refering to in his original post was planned for a trip to Pelican Lake. As is the case for this trip, lots of interest was shown initially, but as the time approached, so did the excuses. I believe Slamr was the last one to bail, and I spent the day fishing against myself. Talk is fun, but cheap. Let's see who will be there when it's show time! |
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| WOW just looked over all the friendly rippin. Sponge you come up with some good ones, Jim its all in fun, Slamr you started it and its a great thread, good job and to everyone else lets have some harmless fun with this thread. Remember becarefull how you talk because I think the age is going to change. Count all the people that are entering this free for all and then find the middle, that will be the cutoff. Jim you are safe being on the younger team but someone 37 to 40 might go eather way. I am 41 and will be 42 by this event so I am on the old guys side. I have out fished lots of people younger than me and see it late in every tournament, its not your age its your attitude and confidence. I see it in the PMTT and other tournaments, late in the day, people just going through the motions to finish out the day, one handed figure eights or none at all. Don't think for a minute that because your under 30 you can out fish a guy over 40. Yes its harder to fish all day once you get older but I think the learning curve is shorter for the more experenced fishermen. I think the best thing that is going to come out of this is friendships, lots of good sticks getting together for a punishing day on the water then having a few beers with each other and getting to know each other better. Let the rippin begin!!! You snot nosed whippersnappers are going to get your but whooped by a bunch of old guys!!!!!!!!![:bigsmile:] |
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| Ok, now that were all getting along. I will spill the beans. Sponger My IQ according to the test is a 144 so I guess that makes me smart, but doesnt mean I cant be dumb either.... But In the end I guessed at a lot of them so I may be dumber.
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| A word of advice I'll add to Mikes...LIFE will teach you more in a year than you will learn in 4 years of college, plus grad. school; being able to survive in any type setting is paramount to intelligence...facing the storm will leave you battered, but better to be standing and beaten than turn your back and not being able to see what's coming...enough for now...I must rest.... [::)] |
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| Enough with this being nice to each other crud. Makes me want to vomit. Nothing worse than your sworn enemy trying to be nice to you. I am still pissed that the date was changed so that Shep and I can't make it. Jimmy K. with a 144 IQ you would think that you would realize that there is a difference between NO meaning something in the negative and KNOW which means you actually KNOW something. Oops, just sort of answered my own remark. Slamr taught you all he knows and you still don't know nothin'. LOL
Maybe we can't make it this year Shep, but this sounds a lot like it's going to be an ongoing, yearly event. Could be that we can make it next year. Oh my god! What will happen if this becomes an annual event? When the diaper brigade starts to age a little we may have to accept them into "our generation" what a revolting development that would be. We may have to keep moving the age upwards just to keep those young pups off our team. [:devil:] |
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| As the sun rises in the east, so does the battle continue...actually, it is snowing here, schools are closed, and I must home school not only the miniature sponge, but others here also.
lesson#1- remember my Juniors, though the storm clouds surround you, their presence does not prevent the sun from coming up, nor going down...
lesson#2- the time to start the fire is before the rain begins...
I'll share this ancient fable, then go do something else...
Spring had sprung, the days were getting warm, and creatures great and small were rejoicing in the newness of life...a grasshopper sat at the base of a tree playing a fiddle and tapping 3 of his legs...about that time, here comes an ant dragging a piece of food behind him. As the ant neared the grasshopper, he stopped playing the fiddle and said "Hey dude, set down that heavy load, rest awhile and enjoy this beautiful weather!" But the ant, huffing and puffing, continued on his way saying "I'd love to Mr. Hopper, but winter is coming and I have to make sure there is enough to eat when it gets cold again"...the grasshopper chuckled, rolled his eyes, and began to play the fiddle again, dancing a jig around and around the tree. This went on all summer long; the ant, sucking wind, dragging food back and forth everyday...the hopper, singing, fiddling, and dancing from dawn to dusk...not a care in the world....UNTIL...one morning the grasshopper woke up shivering; the sky was angry that day my friends, the wind began to howl, and a cold pelting rain began to slam into the insect, numbing his thorax...as he shivered and attempted to warm himself w/ what was left of his tattered jacket, he cursed the day of his birth, and thought about all the fun he'd had that summer...sitting on a park bench, he thought to himself, don't you walk away uneasy... suddenly he remembered the ant, his warm home and all the food he must have stored up! Dragging his fiddle, he stumbled into the cold, biting wind, shivering, shaking, and daggone near a state of hypothermia! As he reached the ant hill, he beat frantically on the door; inside he could see a warm fire and piles of picnic particles and tiny containers of water...gazing up, he saw an ant head peeking out a window...the grasshopper yelled "Hey dude, remember me?" "Kinda" replied the ant...aren't you the one who sat around all summer playing grab butt?" "Yeah" said the hopper, "could I come in and warm up some, and maybe get something to eat?" "No way dude", replied the ant, sadness filling his heart; "I only have enough to get me family and I through the winter"...slowly he closed the window...the grasshopper, weeping bitterly, wandered aimlessly into the chilly woodline......
*Get out that mental pick/axe and re-read the above...I added some current wording in order that the younger folks would more easily understand this riveting tale....
*-Finish the fable in your own words, and ponder these questions:
1-What traits did each insect possess?
2-Which of these traits applies to you?
3-Was the ant wrong to turn the grasshopper away, or should he have allowed him in, even at the risk of his family starving at a later date?
4-Do you think the grasshopper, IF he survived, learned a lesson?
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| Holy balls, sorry, but I just went through and read and noticed a major typo on my last post. Its 134 not 144, so all you people who now think I am a genius IM NOT.......
M1 the reason I type no instead of know is because I hate to type, not because of intelligence...
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| I have no clue what my IQ is so I have nothing to support this hypothesis, but quite frankly I seriously doubt that a muskie is going to feed on a grasshopper, ant or even a nightcrawler for that matter. I do know however that come the sacred day of this young v old, while us younguns are dining on Mac and Cheese and slurping from our juice boxes, the old farts will be choking down great big plates of crow. |
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| Zach,
Are you going to pull crawler rigs?
Hey Slamr....We better get the paramedics on standby for this one, the old timmers might need it when it reaches 95 degrees, flam calm on (pavement hot) water.
And OOOOOOOOH...does it get HOT!
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| I think all the guys have blinders on and have lost it all together. There is no way and I repeat NO WAY that they will beat the old timers. Way too much experience,common sense and no how to compete against. Yes there are some very good young sticks and they will catch a few but in the end the old timers will be standing tall and proud as the pups go home with there tails between there legs.
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| LOL Phiefer
I guess you forgot all those times we fished together and.....who caught the fish...hmmmm
Or is that old age...getting to you and you forgot!
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| How far away from Park Falls is this Petenwell crap hole? I may just have to run down there and whoop some of your young butts after I win the tourney on Butternut. Rob, you out there? How long a drive from Butternut to Petenwell? Could I get in an hour or two if I left Butternut at say 4:30 pm? I would like to get in onthis if even for justa little while. |
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| After all this bantering, there is no way I am going to miss this one. Slamr, count me in with the young guns. Just let me know when and where. |
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| NormAL...in your youthful exuberance, it is obvious that you failed to re-read the fable; feeding tactics pertaining to fish were not mentioned...may I suggest that you turn off Nickelodeon, read the fable again, then ponder the true meaning of the lessons provided you, free of charge...those lessons were posted for YOUR benefit to better enable you to understand a variety of issues that our youth face today. For extra credit, can you identify 2 phrases in the fable, what song they came from, and who sang them? Now lets get started! [:sun:] |
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| I confess, you got me there!!!! I won't lie, you bested me. Just have to give it another try. I will stand by words.
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| Mike,
I can make it to Nekoosa in 2 1/2 - 3 hours. Not sure on where in location Petenwell is as to Hwy 13.
Pat, are ya out there? You might be able to shed more light on it.
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| Man, I'm sooooooooooooooo confused[:0]
If the event is held on July 12th (one week before my birthday) then I'm 38, if it's later then I will be 39, let's get this together so I know where I stand!!!!!!!![:blackeye:]
Not that I want to trash talk anyone here[:halo:]
By the way, I think you "ALL" SUCK A$$[:devil:]
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| Tsk tsk Ralphie...by utilizing the term "ALL" in the suckage comment, you have included both YOUNG and OLD, which answers your own question of where you stand, and right now that be ALONE...you have ostrasized both age groups; my diagnosis falls into the catagory of "pre mid life crisis", a staging area for those who have the desire to remain young, but at the same time realize that they are gaining in age...symptoms include indecision, lashing out at others, curling up in a ball at stop lights, and consuming large quantities of Jiffy Pop. I still carry the vestige of this common malady, and still have no idea of who I am; which ain't so bad either, as looking for meself gives me something to do![:sun:] |
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Young Versus Old MuskieFIRST Tournament Outting?