All Black Cranks
drreilly
Posted 6/1/2013 5:37 PM (#644453)
Subject: All Black Cranks




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Just wondering if people have had success running all black cranks and twitch baits. Done well on mostly black but painted up a bunch of all black. Curious on feedback.
Turkeyt
Posted 6/1/2013 6:15 PM (#644458 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks





Posts: 260


Location: Almost Heaven
Do well with all black double bladed spinners. Black is the only "color" that is darker than any other background in daylight. It will silhouette against almost any background. Fish can pick up that.
Kingfisher
Posted 6/1/2013 6:20 PM (#644460 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
I have done well on several all black Bucktails meaning blades,deer hair and flashbou all black. Both double 10's and double 9 Indiana's. I have never sold many All black cranks to anyone. Of thousands of lures Ive sold maybe three all black were ordered. I have had an all black Crane 205 for a decade and its never been bit. I have tried all black Little Claws and have never been bit. I even tried trolling all black Slashers on Lake St. Clair ( and you would think they would eat anything out there) and never been bit. I dont for the life of me know why but it seems like another color is needed to make black work in a crank. Black barred perch with white base, Black and gold, Black and silver, black and Orange etc. That is my Honest opinion from 20 years of experience. Mike
drreilly
Posted 6/1/2013 7:14 PM (#644463 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks




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Thanks Mike. What about at night? One would think that the all black profile would have success?
Tackle Industries
Posted 6/1/2013 8:38 PM (#644470 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks





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Location: Land of the Musky
Black Suick mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm says the fishy

Day or night.
bladeno20
Posted 6/1/2013 8:48 PM (#644472 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks




Black cranks are really good,not good like black plastics,or bucktails and the others but they rock specially on dark condition,a little bit of silver glitter on the side is dynamite.

The thing that broke my hart is when i pay the same price from ultra sexy perch to a boring black cranks.
esoxfly unplugged
Posted 6/1/2013 9:53 PM (#644477 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks


My 53.5 PB on gear and 52 PB on fly were both on black or black/orange with no frills....just flat black.
honkermusky
Posted 6/1/2013 10:05 PM (#644481 - in reply to #644470)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks




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Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County
+2 on the all black suick. I also have done well on an all black depthraider that has a little glitter on it.
ILmuskie
Posted 6/2/2013 7:03 AM (#644490 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks





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Location: Dixon, IL
Interesting! I wondered, what about dark water or stain that you only can see about 1 feet down....I like firetiger but anyone have luck with black?
North Philly
Posted 6/2/2013 12:02 PM (#644524 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks


drreilly - 6/1/2013 5:37 PM

Just wondering if people have had success running all black cranks and twitch baits. Done well on mostly black but painted up a bunch of all black. Curious on feedback.

Ain't nothing wrong with black. All blacks aren't cranks either.
Kingfisher
Posted 6/3/2013 2:15 PM (#644665 - in reply to #644463)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
drreilly - 6/1/2013 8:14 PM

Thanks Mike. What about at night? One would think that the all black profile would have success?


I normally throw Black Buck Tails at Night. Or dark colored top water. I dont fish at night that often though. What has really surprised me though is how few Black(all black) lures I actually sell. Maybe three or 4 since 1999. I just took an order for an all Black Slasher. Another order for an all Black Hybrid with a Chartruse top. Two in one year that is a record. In contrast 1,235 baits this year so far and most of them were some natural color or some gaudy bright wild thing. Mike
mm3
Posted 6/3/2013 4:02 PM (#644677 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks




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Location: Northern Illinois
I know black topwaters are effective - both day and night for me. I would expect cranks that float high in the water column would have the same effect. That's why I'm kind of surprised that the black Crane didn't seem to work. I would think it would have the same - silhouette against the sky - benefits that a top water would have. I have allways been leary of using all black on deep diving lures, that the fish may see from the side or in front of them (and not looking up against the sky)as the black may not stand out or contrast with anything. In these cases I'm thinking other contrasting colors on the lure may give a flashing or strobe effect that will get noticed and would be more productive.
nazercl
Posted 6/3/2013 7:02 PM (#644689 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks





We had numerous guys ask us to paint up ALL black Livid Fish. That was opposed to the black with the small red "chin". My experience has been that it is quite popular.
Guest
Posted 6/3/2013 8:28 PM (#644708 - in reply to #644665)
Subject: RE: All Black Cranks


Kingfisher - 6/3/2013 2:15 PM

drreilly - 6/1/2013 8:14 PM

Thanks Mike. What about at night? One would think that the all black profile would have success?


I normally throw Black Buck Tails at Night. Or dark colored top water. I dont fish at night that often though. What has really surprised me though is how few Black(all black) lures I actually sell. Maybe three or 4 since 1999. I just took an order for an all Black Slasher. Another order for an all Black Hybrid with a Chartruse top. Two in one year that is a record. In contrast 1,235 baits this year so far and most of them were some natural color or some gaudy bright wild thing. Mike


Mike forgot about my all black katz claw i got from you a month ago. 7 fish on it but only 2 were ski's.
cast4musky
Posted 6/3/2013 8:57 PM (#644716 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks





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Black Bucktails OK Black Suicks OK Black Topwaters OK But I have had poor results on Black crank baits, and I have tried quite a few.........
JKahler
Posted 6/3/2013 10:58 PM (#644730 - in reply to #644490)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks




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Location: WI
ILmuskie - 6/2/2013 7:03 AM

Interesting! I wondered, what about dark water or stain that you only can see about 1 feet down....I like firetiger but anyone have luck with black?


I've fished a river that's usually clay colored, but sometimes clears up a bit during a drought. Last fall we caught 5 or 6 skis on a Believer that's all black with a white skunk stripe on the top & bottom. It shows up really well in that water color. Haven't used that bait much in stained water yet, but I will. Oh, no rattles on that lure either!
BenR
Posted 6/3/2013 11:40 PM (#644735 - in reply to #644453)
Subject: Re: All Black Cranks


All black crane bait, if you can find one, is a great bait.