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| As the population grows each year, and more and more homes are being built on our nations waterways, what might ye think in reference to # of peeps vs. the amount of water and the amount of fish therein? I know in the south, for years moms + pops often had large families for a variety of reasons; to do work around the place, supply Uncle Sammy w/ cannon fodder, draw water, draw more gov't benefits, poor birth control methods etc....the list goes on + on. Then there wasn't much else to do but fish, whittle, hunt and sit on the porch and swat flies; another possible reason for large families--sheer boredom, and the fact that many of us seem to be related or look alike!. The warm climate also kept the hooch empty, as we would often spend most of our time outside. If the family outgrew the home, dads would often hook up the truck to the trailer and move to another spot, leaving the oldest, knowing they could fend for themselves. At dinner time, there would be 6 pork chops and 7 kids, so not only did we fish for food, we also often ate the bait, which increased the use of sales and use of artificial lures and such. Large #s of fish/crawfish were consumed, yet few starved in those lean years, and there always seemed to be plenty of fish left to catch.
How is it "up there"? Are there enough fish to eat, release and catch again for later on...will the Juniors and Juniorettes have the resources that we had as kids? Just something to ponder during the time you are at work, and at work alone! [:0] [::)] | |
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| When I first starting fishing metro muskies down here on Pewaukee, everyone said the lake was busy. I looked at it and really it was not. But over the last 10 years the population of the town of Pewaukee has almost doubled.
NOW ITS A BUSY LAKE. [;)]
You have to fight to launch on Saturday mornings, Smokeys lot is full most of the time at 6am. Mid week the lot is full at 5:15pm so you better not be late. Then when you leave on Saturdays and Sundays there is a line of jet ski's and pleasure craft waiting to come on. | |
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| Oooooo - I smell cash. Big demand, little supply is the situation, right? So, is it possible to open a pay-to-launch somewhere on that lake? (Make the PWC's pay the most![:devil:])
I want a taste, by the way. 5% of gross receipts will be fine. | |
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| Sorry Ranger they already beat you to it. It costs $6 a day to launch. Season pass is the way to go for the guy who puts more then 30 days on the water. | |
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| You hit my HOT button!
I don't think the state dnr's are doing nearly enough to keep up with it. Just like our highways they will wait untill there is a problem. We need more musky lakes in illinois, southern wisconsin and minnesota. The 3 highest concentrations of anglers in the world according to in-fisherman are chicago, milwaukee and minneapolis/st. paul.
Now my hottest of the hot button. The mom and pop resort. They are falling and fast, being sold and becoming private. There are no new ones being built except for posh 5 star resorts and not that many of them. Property taxes are killing the resorts and they cannot maintain the upkeep on many of them. What this means for us is, that it will get harder and harder to find a place to stay. It may not seem like it now but how bad will it be in 15-20 years? I think we will be screaming pretty loud about it then. I say give them a property tax break. When they go, so does the tourism dollars generated. I think this could be a big problem on our horizon.[:(] | |
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| Fortunately we have the coast w/in easy driving distance, but even that is being sold off in some areas, forming private beaches etc. Practically every affordable spot on any major lake around here is now private and POSTED. It all boils down to GREED...and the fact that those w/ the large amounts of $$$ can buy out those who can only see $$$ signs. Nothing wrong w/ making $$$, but it seems to be getting out of whack. Thank goodness there are still some peeps who keep up tradition and maintain fishing camps etc, but they are slowly disappearing here also. The beaches, lakes and rivers are flat dead packed w/ peeps who seem more stressed out than they do at work. We have a major tourist thing here, but the daggone crowds are merciless! Hunting has taken a similar route; used to be peeps would allow hunting just for the asking, now many will only lease the land. Much of that is from peeps trespassing and trashing property though...[:blackeye:] | |
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| Todd,
I'm with ya 100% when you start talking tax cuts for the small resort business owners!! [:bigsmile:]
What IL/ southern WI. lakes would you like to see get muskies and what lakes would you like to see the stocking,,, i.e.. wasted $$$,, stopped?
I would like to see stocking in lake Mendota started up again, although it would be a huge uphill battle,,, also the same would be true for Delavan. What could have been.... [8)]
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| My grandpa was from Indiana, and, fished, and, was a tool and die maker during the depession. It was wisconsin in the summer, Florida in the winter,and Indiana the rest of the year. All the time chasing fish, and, game. My Dad went to 11 different schools before he went to college. His entire job as a kid was gathering bait for grandpop, and, if he didn't get enuf, thar was a wuppin. I have pictures, of stringers, that don't fit in the frame, from those days past, and, never to be revisited. There are still some places that see very little traffic. My advice is to keep those to your kin.[:((] | |
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The use of fishing pressure measurements goes back to the late 19th century when the great Norwegian meteorologist Vilhelm Bjerknes, a leader in making fishing a mathematical science, urged fisherman to use direct pressure measurements because they can be used in the formulas that describe the fishing.
A sidelight: In the International System (SI) of measurements, the unit of pressure is the Peep, named after Blaise Peep, the 17th century scientist who made important discoveries about fishing pressure. The standard fishing pressure at the Earth's surface of 1013.25 fishybars is equal to 101,325 Peeps. To avoid large numbers, fishing pressure is reported in FishoPeeps, which are the same as minnowbars. In many nations, you are now likely to hear reports such as, "fishing pressure, 1020.0 hectoPeeps." This is the same as 1020.0 minnowpeeps.
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| Raze, I can't believe I read that whole post. Minnowbars lol[:bigsmile:] | |
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| Still laughing dude![:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:]
* Your terminology is a MUST for future posting procedures! | |
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| Raze, you're letting your brilliance show. What a hoot. | |
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| I want to throw some thoughts out there, see what you think. The more resorts there are = more fishing pressure. As the resorts in the area I fish for the last 38 years have dwindled and sold off, there has been less fishing pressure and the fish have gotten bigger. Now before you dismiss this think of this, a resort has 10 cabins which it rents out to mostly fisherman who come up for a week or two each year. Just 2 fisherman times 10 cabins = 20 per week for 20 weeks from May through September =400 fisherman per year roughly. Now if the resort sells the cabins which the average buyer uses 3 weeks per year, and the rest of the time it sits unused, that's a hell of a lot less fishing pressure in my book.
As far as water traffic goes, I know it's a lot heavier than it's ever been because of new housing and other reasons. In conclusion, I don't necessarily that Ma & Pop resorts closing is such a bad thing. When they sell, they make a bundle of $$$ considering what they paid for the places years ago. The only real drawback to the resorts closing is the loss of somewhere affordable for people like me to stay when I go up with the kids for some fun and fishing. I've been forced out of 4 resorts over those 38 years I've been going up and it's getting harder each time another resort closes up and sells off the cabins or goes condo. Just some thoughts. [:blackeye:] | |
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Population vs. Fishing Pressure