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| How do I get this permit renewed? Mine is good till June. | |
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| Here is some info Frank Walsh sent me after I booked my week up at his place.
As you already have one you probably know the drill, but at least here is the web address and phone number. Should help you out.
Canadian Remote Area Border Crossing Permit (RABC)
http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc_e.html
Cost $30 (Canadian) per person. Covers spouse, and all dependent children, and as well. And issued for at least one year
You can pick up a RABC at the Rainey River Border Crossing offices. Please phone ahead as their business days, and hours may vary. (807) 852-3968
You can also purchase a RABC in advance via the Fax. Call Bryan Almers at the Rainey River office (807) 852-3968. Please allow 4 weeks to process.
Nail a Pig!
Mike | |
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| Teck:
Once you have recieved your first RABCP it's usually pretty easy and fast to get the renewal. I just stop at immigrations (Rainy River), and bring along my old one. It usually takes 15-20 minutes (depending on how busy they are) for the process to go through their computer system. Brian will take your credit card, and charge you $30.00 Canadian and you are good again.
Here's something I find pretty interesting. The RABCP are good for what amounts to two years. If your birthday is May 1st, and you apply on May 2nd, the experation date will be one full year after your next birthday. So the permit is in effect for one full year, plus the days till your next birthday.
Here's a little insite to what happens if you run into Canadian Immigrations on the LOTWS. This usually only happens in the NW Angle part of the lake, as you usually go through customs at the border at other locations.
You'll be running down the lake (but could also be at a spot fishing). If you're running down the lake a boat with Canadian flags on the backend and Canadian Immigration painted on the side will come at you with a little "stop" sign held up by one of the guys. At this point "STOP"!
They will ask you how you ckecked through customs in the morning. If you have RABCPs you tell them that you have them. They will ask you to produce them (have them with at all times!), they write down the number on the permit, as well as your name, address, etc. They will also want a picture ID to prove that you are who the permit says you are. They will also ask all the usual "Border Crossing Questions". Any firearms, pepperspray or mace? Any alcohol or tabacco products, any gifts to be left in Canada? And so on. Be pleasant and answer the questions truefully (I suppose they could search you boat if they wanted to).
If you don't have a RABCP, you will still need to check through customs every day. You can do this at one of the video phones on the Angle, the resort you are staying at will give you help here (you need boat number, and the names and birth dates of the people who are with you). Once you check through the folks on the phone will give you a daily number for you and the people in your boat. WRITE THIS NUMBER DOWN, with the date. If you are stopped by Immigrations tell them you checked through by phone. THey will ask for the number that was given to you, and photo ID's, and again ask the same questions.
It sounds a little worse than it really is, I get checked 3-4 times a summer, but I never really have any idea when it will happen. If you are doing things correctly it only takes a few minutes. If you aren't doing things correctly it can be expensive, and would ruin a trip.
Doug Johnson | |
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| Thanks Doug | |
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| Hi Doug,
With a RABC permit can you continue your way on through to Young's Resort without checking in at one of the video phones such as that found on "Four Corners". (Does the permit allow you to bypass customs checkpoint on ground as well as water? Is what I'm trying to say.). Sorry if it seems to be redundant but want to make sure my ducks are in a row.
thanks,
Krappie | |
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| Krappie:
When you go to the Angle from Warroad you go from the US into Canada, and check in at Sprague customs. Once you get back into the NW Angle you are going from Canada to the US. When you get to the four corners on the US side you are required to check in with US customs, and tell them you are back in the US. So yes, upon arrival you need to check in at the video phone. When you are leaving the Angle and have a RABCP and heading back into Canada you do not have to stop and call the Canadians, as you have the RABCP that allows you to cross back into Canada without checking in. If you don't have the RABCP you need to stop at the phones and check in with the Canadians.
Here's another thing that I've done some checking on and get a somewhat varied responses. Since you are fishing out of a US resort and either reporting in to Canada every day by phone, or have the RABCP, it would sort of make sence that when you come to the US you should check back to US customs. The last fellow I talked to told me that if I didn't touch shore on the Canadian side, I didn't have to check back into US customs. Exactly how they would determine if you had touched shore on the Canadian side seems to be sort of a mystery. I currently am not checking back into US customs after a days fishing, but if someone tells me that I need to do that I suppose I'll start.
As a local, I also have what the US folks call a "PortPass". This is a photo ID that is simular to the RABCP, (only free, and lasts for life) which allows me to come and go at the Angle without having to check through US customs. This is issued only to locals who are going in and out of the Angle on a regular basis. However, this is only good for me and not people in the boat.
There is also one other form called an I-68, which is sort of the US version of the RABCP. This is basically for Canadian folks who come down to one of the US resorts, for supper or an overnight stay. I've had these also, which I assumed would be good to let me back into the US, but I don't get this any more since I have the PortPass. Here's a web site that has more information on the I-68.
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-68.htm
It's all a little confusing, when in doubt "check through".
Doug Johnson | |
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| Thanks Doug for spending some time discussing about RABC. It's much appreciated, and very helpful!!!!!!
catch ya later,
Krappie | |
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Remote area border crossing permit