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| I think this is new this year, or perhaps I just had never heard of it. The conservation permit only allows you to keep a half of limit.
And since the limit on muskies in MN is one over 48", it makes the conservation limit for muskies a zero.
It's $15 instead of the $22 for a regular license.
It's only $7 difference, but I don't fish for anything else besides muskies. And I never have any intention of keeping one.
The only time I could see this becoming an issue for me is perhaps losing a fish over 48". And if you can't keep it, you have to let it float for turtle food? Perhaps you could call the local DNR and they could keep it for research purposes?
Do any of you guys buy the conservation permit? |
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Location: Maplewood, MN | The conservation license has been around for a long time. If you don't intend on keeping fish, its not a bad idea. Personally I really only keep a few walleyes and panfish throughout the summer but I still get the full license. I figure that I'm using the resource, may as well pay a little extra to help it out. Just my opinion. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | I've been getting the conservation license now the last two or three years. Really good for me as I never keep anything, outside of the occasional crappie or sunfish. I like it. It's just another way to keep my cost down on this sport that already costs a lot. |
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Location: WI | Get a regular license whether you release fish or not. The DNR needs the money. |
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Location: Grand Marais, MN | nwick - 5/9/2013 4:41 PM
Get a regular license whether you release fish or not. The DNR needs the money.
Agreed, and I only keep a half a dozen sunnies or walleye a year. Having grown up in chicago, it seems amusing to myself that i would ever support paying a government-run anything more than is required. but the MN dnr does a pretty darn good job and could use anything they can get.
Maybe we dont keep many fish, but there are sure a lot of bucketheads out there keeping everything, probably without a licence at all!
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| nwick - 5/9/2013 4:41 PM
Get a regular license whether you release fish or not. The DNR needs the money.
the way our dnr is running thingsq and in particular our commissioner I wouldn't give the dnr any more money then you have to. They lowered the cost of the spearing license but doing all they can to give them more. And then raise the fishing license and are unwilling to create new muskie opportunity's. At the rate the dnr is going I give them ten years to ruin what took fourty years to build.
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | DLC - 5/9/2013 11:27 PM
nwick - 5/9/2013 4:41 PM
Get a regular license whether you release fish or not. The DNR needs the money.
the way our dnr is running thingsq and in particular our commissioner I wouldn't give the dnr any more money then you have to. They lowered the cost of the spearing license but doing all they can to give them more. And then raise the fishing license and are unwilling to create new muskie opportunity's. At the rate the dnr is going I give them ten years to ruin what took fourty years to build.
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Totally agree!!
The spearing side of things is becoming a little more 'up close and personal' than I would like to admit and the MNDNR is only forwarding their cause. The DNR is doing quite a few things that are not going to benefit the musky world even a little bit. We here in MN just need to keep pushing for the "bonk em" size to be raised so less fish are killed in the process. Hopefully we can get the limit to 52"+ I am hoping to get somewhere in the 54"-56" range to be set in place so we can continue to grow an already abundant trophy fishery. But without a higher size limit, I fear that we are going to lose our trophy fishery over time. Either by hooking mortality, other anglers keeping fish or just straight natural selection. the more the anglers in MN push for new and better waters accompanied by a larger keep size, the better off our fishery will be. Thus keeping MN musky hunting near the top of the food chain for many years to come. |
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Location: Ontario | We have the same policy in Ontario.Half the fish for conservation license,and no muskie. Our limit size is 54". I guess the only confusion on zero limit on a muskie is how legal is it then to actually fish them ?? Its a source of confusion here, as I get a different response from every MNR rep I ever speak to on the subject |
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Location: Ontario | In Ontario a Sport License IS required to Target Muskie found it in the regs a few years back and had a CO conferm it this winter. The reason being if you caught and accidently killed a 54", letting any game fish or animal spoil is a criminal offense. I get all guest I guide to get the sport just to avoid any misinterpratation by a CO |
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Location: Grand Marais, MN | FAT-SKI - 5/10/2013 1:49 AM
DLC - 5/9/2013 11:27 PM
nwick - 5/9/2013 4:41 PM
Get a regular license whether you release fish or not. The DNR needs the money.
the way our dnr is running thingsq and in particular our commissioner I wouldn't give the dnr any more money then you have to. They lowered the cost of the spearing license but doing all they can to give them more. And then raise the fishing license and are unwilling to create new muskie opportunity's. At the rate the dnr is going I give them ten years to ruin what took fourty years to build.
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Totally agree!!
The spearing side of things is becoming a little more 'up close and personal' than I would like to admit and the MNDNR is only forwarding their cause. The DNR is doing quite a few things that are not going to benefit the musky world even a little bit. We here in MN just need to keep pushing for the "bonk em" size to be raised so less fish are killed in the process. Hopefully we can get the limit to 52"+ I am hoping to get somewhere in the 54"-56" range to be set in place so we can continue to grow an already abundant trophy fishery. But without a higher size limit, I fear that we are going to lose our trophy fishery over time. Either by hooking mortality, other anglers keeping fish or just straight natural selection. the more the anglers in MN push for new and better waters accompanied by a larger keep size, the better off our fishery will be. Thus keeping MN musky hunting near the top of the food chain for many years to come.
Those are all really important issues, but not really monetary issues. seems to be more of a disagreement between the way things are and the way we think they should be. but giving them as little as possible to enjoy the state resources wont solve any of those problems, and nor will spending an xtra $7 on the non-conservation license.
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Location: WI | The DNR isn't the ones advancing the dark house agenda. They were bypassed politically and were in favor of keeping Cass closed to spearing. Hopefully the guys from the MMPA can clear this up as the animosity towards the MNDNR is unwarranted. |
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Location: Ontario | keithtrophyfishn.com - 5/10/2013 5:01 PM
In Ontario a Sport License IS required to Target Muskie found it in the regs a few years back and had a CO conferm it this winter. The reason being if you caught and accidently killed a 54", letting any game fish or animal spoil is a criminal offense. I get all guest I guide to get the sport just to avoid any misinterpratation by a CO
So Keith what you are saying is reasonable about conservation license and not targeting muskie. Here's the true dilemma. Does a sporting license give you the right to catch, net, handle and photograph fish that are under the legal limit ? And if so, once you have handled one fish under the legal limit have you reached your 1 fish quota for the day ?? This is the question I posed which had so many different answers from the MNR |
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| It's warranted, I'm not talking about the field guys as those men and women do a great job. It's the bunch in St.Paul that are the ones that are worthless. They have been enabling the harpooners, and making getting new lakes impossible. Who do you think the legislators have been listening to? Also I doubt anyone in the MMPA will tell me I'm wrong. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | The following is from the Ontario MNR website clearly stating that you can angle for muskies on a conservation licence how ever wether or not you can take a picture is up to how the CO interpets imediate. You will never get a CO to say its legal and unfortunately you couldn't get 3 Co's to agree on the colour of their uniform.
http://find.gov.on.ca/?q=muskelunge+conservation+licence&ty...
Regulatory Guidelines for Managing the Muskellunge Sport Fishery ...
There is currently a catch and possession limit of zero (0) for anglers
holding a conservation licence, although they are legally allowed to angle for muskellunge, but they must immediately release any fish that they catch.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@letsfish/do...
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| I didn't mean to open a can of worms because it's only $7 and I'd gladly pay the extra money knowing the money was going back to the resource.
I've heard stories where the state government raids the DNR fund to replenish the General fund when it's running out of money etc. If there was a way to prove to me that my fishing license fees were actually going back to the resource I'd pay $100 or more or whatever it would cost to fish muskies in Minnesota.
I could've been fed bad info, but it makes me sick to think that my fishing license fee could wind up in the general fund and paying for someone's I phone or Doritos that's living off the government! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | The fishing license money stays with the DNR and doesn't get taken into the general fund. |
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| Yep then they can use it to stock walleye by the billions to feed hammer handle pike instead of addressing the issues. |
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