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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | In light of the incredible blather being posted here lately by a couple anonymous folks, we are seriously considering changing this board... and this board only... on the forums to registered only for posting.
We currently have over 220 new posts a day on the average. About 10% are from our anonymous friends.
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Location: Duluth, MN | Please do. It will eliminate the spam as well. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I like the Basement being the only "members only" area of the site.
But I wouldn't think any less of you if a change was made.
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Location: The desert | I actually think it would be far more entertaining if you simply outed every guest by their IP. I know that you changed your software to make this a bit more challenging, but it would be far more entertaining to post the full name of those who don't have the cajones to post under their name. |
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| this site would be super boring if not for the occasional blather |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | I would favor that Steve. I completely understand your desire to anonymous posters, and we've talked about this several times before. But people take things to extremes, and I think it's time for the sort of change you are considering. Personally speaking, I've found that it can take an extraordinary amount of time to "defend yourself" against a few anonymous posters who are just trying to stir up trouble. I can certainly appreciate someone wanting the ability to post without using their name--but I think it's being abused, and probably has been for some time. I favor the change.
As for the "research" section (not that this was mentioned specifically), I would concur that leaving it as it current is (allowing anonymous posters) is a good thing...for the obvious reasons.
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| I am for registering to post comments. I already have enough stupid thoughts running through my head, so I don't need anonymous guests giving me more. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | I vote for registered only. There is far to much hammering on certain tackle companies/sellers and it is always by non members. They have absolutely nothing invested in the site so therefore have nothing to lose. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Good Idea |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | Game on. |
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Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County | i agree steve thought there was talk of doing this a while ago?? |
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| Any chance to have people post with REAL NAMES only? Keyboard tough guys would leave. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Sure...if you have to. But I'm going to miss those occasional great deals on new handbags and Viagra. |
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Location: West Chester, OH | Pointerpride102 - 4/26/2013 10:14 AM
I actually think it would be far more entertaining if you simply outed every guest by their IP. I know that you changed your software to make this a bit more challenging, but it would be far more entertaining to post the full name of those who don't have the cajones to post under their name.
Yes!!
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| I think getting rid of guest/annonymous posters will make the board better. It is way too easy to come on here and post garbage with minimal consequence. |
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Location: Iowa | ARmuskyaddict - 4/26/2013 10:19 AM
I am for registering to post comments. I already have enough stupid thoughts running through my head, so I don't need anonymous guests giving me more.
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | I vote YES! And while you are at it, I agree with "GUEST" above and make people use their REAL names and not just "board names". I always use my name and it would be nice to know whom I am conversing with. If they can't own up to it, they shouldn't be saying it in the first place!! |
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| recently? a couple? this has gone on for YEARS. that's just the nature of a forum. i like to participate once in a while as a guest. the moderators know who i am i'm sure. why should a bunch of random strangers know too?
my posts are usually sparked by messages from several people linking me to read something ridiculous on this site. i'm sure everyone can agree it makes for some interesting reading as long as nobody is personally insulting an individual. which is completely different than disagreeing with their opinions or methods, or calling them out because they rip off every lure manufacture known to mankind and run a successful business by doing so.
if you take my post the wrong way and have anything negative to say, by all means do it. you can't even make a post about a boat on here without people degrading you or sending you nasty PM's half the time, so its nothing new. if anything, every single post should be made by a "guest." afterall, what is the difference between using the name "guest" and muskiehunter?
if steve would post as a guest and nobody knew who he was, there wouldn't be so many people on here that either left the forum or stuck around and deal with his public bashing's and posts that simply refer to the meaning of "duh, what kind of stupid question was that?" he comes off as a jerk, but i know hes not... or has never been to me. so do a ton of other people. BUT........ what happens when everybody is at the Muskie swap? good times, lots of beer, and awkward moments if anybody tries to discuss the forums.
the only problem i see is that children may be reading. for that, and thank you for the reminder, i will refrain from any profanity (i believe i usually do) and references to something children should not read on a muskie fishing website for as long as i'm able or allowed to post.
my apologies. i hope everyone is okay. |
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Location: Richland Center, WI. | I would be fine with registering to post. Own your posts people, don't hide!
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I 'come off as a jerk'?
ha.
That there is truly funny.
Someone has to control the 'crazy' traffic and moderate the catfights, arguing, nasty commentary, product bashing, name calling, general bad behavior, and other untoward activity that occurs from time to time here, and it's me and Slamr. We both ARE jerks and offer no apologies. We weren't jerks until we took on this project.
You'd be stunned to know how many absolute unique users there really are here. If someone does take a virtual hike because they can't say any derned thing they want any time they want, that's a shame, but it's the way it is and always will be. This ain't your personal blog. It's a copyrighted publication.... which is why moderation here is somewhat strict. And that's worked for 13 years, but the HUGE volume of increased traffic has made things 'more interesting'.
We wouldn't require an 'actual name'. Just registration. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | I'm in favor of requiring registration to post.
People tend to think more and post less blather when their IDs are attached. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Personally, I think it should be all of the forums but this is a start. |
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Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-) | I'm for registering some of us with board names list our real names if you check the profiles. Granted not all of us but the screen names are fun. If real name was required I'd say keep screen names and make real name required in profiles only. |
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Location: Eau Claire,WI | I agree 100 % !!!
Brad P - 4/26/2013 10:40 AM
I think getting rid of guest/annonymous posters will make the board better. It is way too easy to come on here and post garbage with minimal consequence. |
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| At times, yes. Because some people don't know how to keep there mouth shut or refrain from drama and talking about things nobody cares about in person just as bad as in a public message board, so they like to talk about other people at times. You are quite popular in the muskie industry Mr. Steve. I was not insulting you. People think I'm an idiot, a jerk, uneducated, a bad muskie angler, etc etc etc. because of the internet or what some people say. Good. I guess that means I will never stop learning. Too bad most guides decide to teach and quit learning after a couple years. |
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Location: 15 miles east of Lake Kinkaid | I agree as well |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I have no idea what that guy is saying. Does anyone else?
Back to the original question, please. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | posting what you believe and having your identity known???? preposterous!! |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | sworrall - 4/26/2013 10:58 AM
I have no idea what that guy is saying. Does anyone else?
Back to the original question, please. .
Oddly enough, I think that I do actually know what he's saying Steve...
He gave you an atta-boy for doing the job you do (I concur...and that goes for Slam'r too), and then he showed some humility in saying that he basically comes here to learn--and still has much to learn. We all do. And it seems as though he also wishes guides would continue to share knowledge, instead of just taking people fishing to get paid.
Of course I could be way off on all this...
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Actually make sense, Tom. it's a beautiful day in Red Wing, MN, and I did talk to Gary Parsons for you. Will hit up Mr. Okada this afternoon. |
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| While I certainly see nothing wrong with having to Register to post...I can say, that this is a tough battle to overcome and find a solution that would actually work.
The "Guests" will still continue to go on to create "troll" accounts registering under different usernames to continue on with their same behaviors and banter. For years I've seen this same problem on other forum boards, where, there was the obvious few that had dozens of alias or "troll" names to hide behind. Just took them an extra few seconds to sign-out as one troll user name to then sign back in under another troll user name vs the speed of just hiding behind the Guest name.
Do whatever it is you feel you need to do Steve. This is your house. You make the rules. Those who don't care for your rules? Tough. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | sworrall - 4/26/2013 11:14 AM
Actually make sense, Tom. it's a beautiful day in Red Wing, MN, and I did talk to Gary Parsons for you. Will hit up Mr. Okada this afternoon.
Thanks! I'll stand by.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | MACK,
We have a little trick we use now to stop folks we see abusing the multiple registration angle.
We are also in the process of implementing an entirely new method for our visitors to access all the OFM sites. Partially why we asked the question.
Thanks sir. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I'd would agree to requiring users to sign up. Though a useful guest post comes up from time to time, more often than not the guest posts just seem to be attempting to stir the pot and cause trouble. If I search the internet and read through other forums about anything else (woodworking, vehicles, hunting, etc) I don't believe I have come across another forum where I was able to participate as a guest. Many forums don't even allow pictures on the forum to be seen by non members (I think it would be good if guests could still view pictures here - may draw more members). |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Just curious but can someone register more than one board name |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's possible, sure. We know when someone does most times, and every time if trouble comes of it. |
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Location: Minnesota | Fully agree, too many trouble makers trolling the forums |
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| Simple solution, only allow registered members. Half the time when people post as a guest they are responding to stupidity with even more stupidity from themselves, myself included.
The less I visit this forum and come back at a later time the more I'm reminded that no matter how old the majority of you guys on here get, you are all just a bunch of overgrown children with a passion for a game/hobby that gets taken way too far.
Whats even more stupid is my last offensive coordinator was an ex offensive line coach that couldn't even handle that job. |
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Location: MN | While I might miss the occasional good-natured blather, I am in favor of whatever helps you maintain what sanity you have left, and therefore be able to continue to offer this resource to us.
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Will Schultz - 4/26/2013 10:49 AM
Personally, I think it should be all of the forums but this is a start.
+1 for this. I also agree with what Brad P said, that it would make the site better. |
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Location: The desert | tcbetka - 4/26/2013 10:11 AM
sworrall - 4/26/2013 10:58 AM
I have no idea what that guy is saying. Does anyone else?
Back to the original question, please. .
Oddly enough, I think that I do actually know what he's saying Steve...
He gave you an atta-boy for doing the job you do (I concur...and that goes for Slam'r too ), and then he showed some humility in saying that he basically comes here to learn--and still has much to learn. We all do. And it seems as though he also wishes guides would continue to share knowledge, instead of just taking people fishing to get paid.
Of course I could be way off on all this...
TB
I must need new batteries in my gibberish decoder because I was at a loss. I think you are fairly accurate, but like most internet translators, I think there are some phrases that never quite translate right.
You get a gold star for at least getting that much! |
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| I agree. The biggest reason people post as a guest is because they don't have the stones. There are legit ones like for people that start threads that come on here because they have a question. There is no reason for a guest response though. |
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| This is the only forum I frequent that DOESN'T require someone to be a registered memeber to post....maybe I don't frequent enough interweb forums. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Cutler - 4/26/2013 11:27 AM
Simple solution, only allow registered members. Half the time when people post as a guest they are responding to stupidity with even more stupidity from themselves, myself included.
The less I visit this forum and come back at a later time the more I'm reminded that no matter how old the majority of you guys on here get, you are all just a bunch of overgrown children with a passion for a game/hobby that gets taken way too far.
Whats even more stupid is my last offensive coordinator was an ex offensive line coach that couldn't even handle that job.
All of this coming from someone who consistently misses open recievers, berates his team mates, and throws off the wrong foot?
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| Cutler - 4/26/2013 11:27 AM
The less I visit this forum and come back at a later time the more I'm reminded that no matter how old the majority of you guys on here get, you are all just a bunch of overgrown children with a passion for a game/hobby that gets taken way too far.
That should have been apparent on your first visit. So let me ask you, Guest... Would you log in and post that under a registered username, or would you just not come back, leaving the rest of us to have to do without your insight? |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | I fully support requiring registration to post. |
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| If you require registration, I think people should have to use full first and last names. No point if you can have a nick name, either own it or leave it alone. BR |
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Location: South-Central PA | I'm all for it, especially in light of some recents incidents.
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Location: oswego, il | it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses. |
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Location: Aurora IL | do it steve |
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Location: New Hope MN | I am fine with requiring registration, but am adamantly against forcing someone to use their real name.
why not create a poll for the registration question?
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Well I think that registration should be adequate. That way people can still post anonymously if they should choose to do so, but would still know that someone knew who they were. And that might be just enough to get them to re-consider being stupid with their posts.
Personally speaking, I couldn't care less who asks me a question about (or disagrees with) something I post. I understand that not everyone posts for the same reasons, but people who post for silly reasons have their posts considered as just that...silly. But if someone has a very viable point but maybe doesn't want to (or can't) let people know their real identity, it doesn't diminish the value or validity of that post. A good point is a good point, no matter who posts it. So as long as the site moderators know who the poster is, then we're good to go in my opinion. Obviously people can create multiple accounts with different "real names," but they'd still have to do so using a different IP--and after awhile I think that will get old to them. Also, the mods can simply ban that user.
I don't think there's a perfect solution for this problem, but I think Steve and the guys are on the right track. So I favor that registration be required for ANYONE to post, but still allowing people to post using only that registration identity. I think this is probably the best compromise there is, if the goal is to police the BS while still encouraging open discussion and contribution from people who might have great things to add, but cannot do so using their real names.
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Location: Hayward, WI | ToddM - 4/26/2013 12:10 PM
it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses.
HEEEEYYYYYY!!!!!
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Location: Palm Coast, FL | 100% yes! Board names are fine but can you also make sure they have a real name in their profile? |
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Location: Grand Forks ND | I vote for registered and real name...if you're going to do one do them both.
On the other hand, I wouldn't describe negative comments about products or companies that pay you money (sponsor) as "product bashing".
Brian Jongeward
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Location: NE Wisconsin | Do it.
I also agree with using full names. I feel much bs will disappear.
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Location: Smith Creek | No real names. Flambeauski stands behind his (sober) comments, the company he works for does not.
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Location: Duluth, MN | Vince Weirick - 4/26/2013 1:20 PM
100% yes! Board names are fine but can you also make sure they have a real name in their profile?
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| Require registration, allow user names, but also require full name as a signature. My reasoning is that if you cannot stand behind whatever opinion you express, then you should not be expressing your opinion. Also, why does one fear any retribution for expressing your opinion? Most people are pretty accepting of other views.
That being said, I like this saying. Opinions are like B...holes, everyone has a B...hole, but some really stink... |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Believe it or not, some of us up here can actually read !
ToddM - 4/26/2013 12:10 PM
it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Pull the trigger.. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'On the other hand, I wouldn't describe negative comments about products or companies that pay you money (sponsor) as "product bashing". '
Neither would I. The product bashing rules apply evenly to ALL products and companies. That's been said and proven out ...ohhhh, about a hundred times. |
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Location: Williamstown, WV | I'm in favor of registered names only, no more Guest!!! |
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Location: Weyauwega Wi. | If we have something to say we should not be afraid to sign in. Please do it |
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Location: Germantown, WI | Steve,
I'm all for limiting posting to registered user. Requiring real names is not a bad idea either. It sure seems to me that the internet enables some people to act in ways that they wouldn't otherwise act if they knew that everyone would know who it was. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Tom,
My behavior is questionable most of the time. How she puts up with it I’ll never know..:)
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Location: Eastern Ontario | How would you verify names, whats to prevent a false name and a Gmail account? If someone is not prepared to stand behind their words not much you can do except give more points to those that do. registration is a step in the right direction. |
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| I don't know about names... Everybody already knows who I am already, so it doesn't matter much to me. But what about some of the guide-bashing that's gone on? I know that chased a lot of knowledge off these forums a long time ago. I know a lot of them still post here, anonymously, because it's the only way to express their views without getting thrown under the bus by someone who has never hired a guide. |
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Location: Ontario | I recently joined Muskies Canada, and their forum is open to members only with full names used. If anything it creates more of a club feel,and more dialogue between members versus only posting opinions on topics.
This forum is great that its open to everyone. But it seems some of the "guests" get more pleasure out of riling the group than actually contributing something positive.
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Location: Smith Creek | registered users + guest users = advertising revenue
This isn't our club. It's several people's living. Alienating half of your user base may not be wise. Steve already knows that, not sure how many of the rest of you do. |
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| Half, Andy? As Steve mentioned above, only 10% of the posts here are from unregistered guests. I suspect many of those ARE actually registered users who chose not to log in so they could attack someone without putting their name behind their post. Are they going to leave if they can't log in as a guest and be a jerk? Or are they just going to register and watch what they say now that they can be identified? How may people have left and never come back because of the unruly guests? How many people would post and don't because of the unruly guests? Obviously Steve can speak to that better than I, seeing the IP addresses behind every post. But what would really be lost requiring folks to long in and post, compared to what would or could potentially be gained?
It was a long time ago, but there was an instance here where some anonymous poster with an attitude bigger than his brain got on here and started going off on another poster, trying to make him look stupid, and in effect telling him that he didn't know anything, coulnd't catch a musky if his life depended on it, and was just an idiot. The person he was replying to happened to be a pretty well known guide with over 50 years of musky fishing under his belt. When you've got someone who has 50 years in this game willing to come on here and share what they know and have experienced, FOR FREE, do you really want them to be sitting here questioning why they have to sit here and be subjected to unfounded criticism and insults from some anonymous jerk-off? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | it's possible to both be a jerk and be signed in |
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Location: oswego, il | dfkiii - 4/26/2013 1:46 PM
Believe it or not, some of us up here can actually read !
ToddM - 4/26/2013 12:10 PM
it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses.
my statement just for the record was not an attack on the area literacy. the library computers are a source for anonymous posters.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ToddM - 4/26/2013 4:16 PM
dfkiii - 4/26/2013 1:46 PM
Believe it or not, some of us up here can actually read !
ToddM - 4/26/2013 12:10 PM
it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses.
my statement just for the record was not an attack on the area literacy. the library computers are a source for anonymous posters.
"do to the lack" ... i'd say you made a statement about literacy |
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Location: Chaska MN. | just do it. |
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Has that been verified by IP ? IP spoofing could also be an explanation, but I suppose it's way beyond comprehension that anybody up here would be smart enough to know how to do that.
ToddM - 4/26/2013 4:16 PM
dfkiii - 4/26/2013 1:46 PM
Believe it or not, some of us up here can actually read !
ToddM - 4/26/2013 12:10 PM
it will be sad to know the hayward public library would close as a result do to lack of use but do what you have to do. there are pluses and minuses but way more pluses.
my statement just for the record was not an attack on the area literacy. the library computers are a source for anonymous posters.
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| Is this a real question in response to a real issue, or a post to increase your post totals? Please be specific and identify the problem posts. I look at the site several times each day and do not see the problem. I see fewer and fewer posts. Is twitter hurting the site?
Ray
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Location: SE, WI. | I am in favor of registration to post. Do It! Too many people hiding behind smokescreens. Thankyou for polling the question... Mr. Sir!!!
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Southshore - 4/26/2013 5:56 PM
Is this a real question in response to a real issue, or a post to increase your post totals? Please be specific and identify the problem posts. I look at the site several times each day and do not see the problem. I see fewer and fewer posts. Is twitter hurting the site?
Ray
That makes no sense, actually. The traffic here is WAY up from the past and growing daily at well over 200 new posts a day and an additional 2000 plus logins. (Welcome aboard, new visitors!)
'Post totals' have absolutely no value; quality total page views and a series of other analytics are the stats folks in the business care about.
If OFM wanted 'low quality' page views, we'd ENCOURAGE train wreck arguments and cat fights. People generally like to watch train wreck fights.
If you haven't seen 'the problem', the moderation team is doing their job, I guess. Guests still will be welcome to read every single post; they simply would have to register and login to interact.
Why we asked?
We do value the opinion of our community members here very highly, after all, this place is about you folks, not us. And that includes our guests here. Most are here to enjoy themselves and maybe to be entertained and even learn something...from the rest of the community. |
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| I love this site, it is a great time waster and helps me get through my day. Having said that, I'm a frequent viewer and a VERY infrequent poster, so either way I don't really care. It's Steve's website, and he should do with it as he please's. However, reading through this thread made me scratch my head a little, a lot of people here do not like the "anonymous" poster, but aren't the vast majority of people on here "anonymous"? Other than a few famous people, I know the true identity of maybe 5 people.(maybe I just don't have that many friends ) I m guessing that most of the handles used here are not the names your mothers gave you.
If I log on with a name like "bigfishguy365"(for example) and post something stupid like "DCG's suck and don't catch fish!"
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If don't log on and post under "guest" something stupid like "DCG's suck and don't catch fish"
What is the difference?
Great site Worrall, keep up the good work. Just my 2 cents, time to go outside. I'll post again in a year. |
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Location: NE Twin Cities Metro | Require registration, absolutely no on requiring full name. Not everyone (me included) wants their name in the googlesphere. However, if full names are required, so be it. It would likely reduce some posters from commenting, which would be a shame. |
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Location: Red Wing, Minnesota | Absolutely. Register to post. |
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| My # +2 was meant for all should be regisered users. |
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Location: Birchwood, WI. | YES ...ALL THE WAY.. SAVES ON SOME OF THE DRAMA !!!! |
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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world | I'm in on that idea. Never thought much of the guest who had the mouth but not the sack to own it.
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Location: Minnesota | Agree its long overdue and never knew when holding folks accountable was a bad thing. Folks hiding behind the "Guest" moniker may finally have to a little ownership for their comments and the consequences of such. I look forward to it. |
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Location: Smith Creek | esoxaddict - 4/26/2013 3:59 PM
Half, Andy? As Steve mentioned above, only 10% of the posts here are from unregistered guests. QUOTE]
Half as in, 101 registered users, 105 guests. Potential sponsors don't care about anything but traffic (more or less, trainwrecks are never good from a sponsor's standpoint)
TNB and MH don't let guests post. I'm not sayin that's why that's why you hear crickets whenever you log in, but it doesn't help. At least there are fewer messes to clean up. |
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Location: Pittsburgh | Steve I don't understand the difference between guest or any one else like myself for instance none of you guys know me so I am anonymous to yins.also you delete some of my posts and I do not know why it seems I am doing nothing others do not do and I can find no rules published here and I do understand it is your right I just do not know the boundary. Is seems that most people here know each other somehow. Register or not , I don't care I am proud to put my name to my words and will apologize if proven wrong. |
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Location: Plymouth, MN | I think it's a good idea! |
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| Great idea Steve. Nearly all posters and readers are here to not only make themselves smarter but also help their fellow fisherman. Loading the forum to defend "Guests" just takes away from the main reason most of us are here.
Maybe some are here for comedic relief and stirring up trouble, but I think there are plenty of other places to do that.
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| I never use this option, but since it's going to be taken away, I figured why not.
Long live guest! |
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Location: The desert | Simple fisherman - 4/26/2013 9:29 PM
Steve I don't understand the difference between guest or any one else like myself for instance none of you guys know me so I am anonymous to yins.also you delete some of my posts and I do not know why it seems I am doing nothing others do not do and I can find no rules published here and I do understand it is your right I just do not know the boundary. Is seems that most people here know each other somehow. Register or not , I don't care I am proud to put my name to my words and will apologize if proven wrong.
Holy run on sentences batman! |
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Location: Duluth, MN | Simple fisherman - 4/26/2013 10:29 PM
Steve I don't understand the difference between guest or any one else like myself for instance none of you guys know me so I am anonymous to yins.also you delete some of my posts and I do not know why it seems I am doing nothing others do not do and I can find no rules published here and I do understand it is your right I just do not know the boundary. Is seems that most people here know each other somehow. Register or not , I don't care I am proud to put my name to my words and will apologize if proven wrong.
Logging in at least allows you to build some kind of reputation as "Simple Fisherman", which gives other viewers the ability to decide how much credibility your posts have. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Precisely. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | No preference |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
I don't spend much time on this particular portion of the forum responding, but I do peruse it quite a bit to see what is new, if there is anything interesting, etc. etc. On some of the more controversial subjects that have been on here in the past, it gets old...quick, and at times I get drawn into it, thus exacerbating the problem.
I do believe that if people are to register, it will cut down on the number of negative, argumentative posts that can, and do occur because of anonymous posting, but because we are who we are, there will still be some major disagreements that take place...with the hope the disagreement is more cordial than what can happen with anonymous posting.
I know for myself, I would much rather not be known for a whole bunch of negative posts, being rude, etc, so being required to register with a user name and/or full name in bio or signature is fine with me.
I'm going back to the boats and motors forum now.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | I'm all for making people post with a registered name. Since this site started people have come and gone. Its nice to see names that have been around for a long time. The new names gain credability very quickly with good posts. Why would anyone object to putting their name behind anything unless they want to hide.
Negative posting has a very very small place here. Its ok to disagree but stand behind it with your name.
Trouble makers only take away from the intent of this forum.
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Location: E. Tenn | I'd be all for registered users only posting, real names in the profile. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | sworrall - 4/26/2013 10:02 AM
In light of the incredible blather being posted here lately by a couple anonymous folks, we are seriously considering changing this board... and this board only... on the forums to registered only for posting.
We currently have over 220 new posts a day on the average. About 10% are from our anonymous friends.
What say you?
Took me 2 minutes to get registered. Its not hard to the "Guest" who are assses will get real tired of singing up and run out of email addresses soon I am 100% for it! Guests can still read even if they don't want to post. I highly doubt it will curve the visitors and will probably make the boards even better IMO.
James
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Location: Pittsburgh | Pointer, you desert dweller, you will have to believe me when I tell you I had a very good reason for "The babbling;" still do today! |
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Location: The desert | Guest - 4/27/2013 8:02 PM
Steve power trip sworall deleted my post
Yeah.... So much power derived from deleting posts on the Internet..... |
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| Pointerpride102 - 4/27/2013 10:09 PM
Guest - 4/27/2013 8:02 PM
Steve power trip sworall deleted my post
Yeah.... So much power derived from deleting posts on the Internet.....
Guest causing trouble... |
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Location: Antioch, IL | ammoman16 - 4/27/2013 7:08 AM
Logging in at least allows you to build some kind of reputation as "Simple Fisherman", which gives other viewers the ability to decide how much credibility your posts have.
BINGO! Down with "guest". All for registration. |
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| Just do it.......require registration for posting......It's fairly common practice on other forums and should be here too. It's nice to allow guests to read the forum before deciding to post, which should be for registered members only. |
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| don't mess with success. other notable Musky forums are dying on the vine after minor changes. OutdoorsFirst has a hopping place here, partly due to guest posts. (when is the IPO!?). sometimes 'guest' posts are insightful or funny. Oh yes, and registered users always behave and never stir the pot, right...
but it is MR Steve's sandpit and his investors' money tree so do whatever you think best. I just provide free content. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Thanks for the feedback, everyone, we will keep this all in mind when the complete OFM rebuild underway nears completion and will let you know. |
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