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| In that most of our lures that we cast dont really go that deep ,,, do you think that Flat black color would give off a better silhouette to muskies looking upward ?? ,,, possibly better than a gloss black that would tend to reflect light rather than absorb light like a Flat color ,,,, not just black ,,, a flat color paint in general --- might be a good thing for shallow crankbaits ,, top water lures and bucktail blades ?? ---- just thinkin out loud here -------- ?????? ------------ jimjimjim
PS --- noticed that Suick offers a Flat Black color pattern -----
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| Not sure if its a better silhouette but I will tell you that flat black does catch fish. I have used flat black on cranks and blades with decent success. |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | <p>Black is black. It does not absorb light. The coating on it doesn't matter. White is the opposite in that it absorbs all colors in the spectrum. Maybe absorb isn't the correct word for white, but it is the cumulation of all spectrum colors. A gloss coating on a black bait will provide some minimal flash, but black is black as far as the color spectrum goes. </p><p> </p>
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| gtp888 - 4/26/2013 7:31 AM
Black is black. It does not absorb light. The coating on it doesn't matter. White is the opposite in that it absorbs all colors in the spectrum. Maybe absorb isn't the correct word for white, but it is the cumulation of all spectrum colors. A gloss coating on a black bait will provide some minimal flash, but black is black as far as the color spectrum goes.
Nope, you're wrong.
Black does absorb all wavelengths, while white reflects them. And a glossy finish does make a difference on radiant energy reflected vs. absorbed. |
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| gtp888 - 4/26/2013 7:31 AM
Black is black. It does not absorb light. The coating on it doesn't matter. White is the opposite in that it absorbs all colors in the spectrum. Maybe absorb isn't the correct word for white, but it is the cumulation of all spectrum colors. A gloss coating on a black bait will provide some minimal flash, but black is black as far as the color spectrum goes.
i think you need to recheck your facts.
black absorbs everything,light,heat and all colors while white reflects light,heat and all colors. this is a fact not my opinion.
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Guest - 4/26/2013 7:58 AM gtp888 - 4/26/2013 7:31 AM Black is black. It does not absorb light. The coating on it doesn't matter. White is the opposite in that it absorbs all colors in the spectrum. Maybe absorb isn't the correct word for white, but it is the cumulation of all spectrum colors. A gloss coating on a black bait will provide some minimal flash, but black is black as far as the color spectrum goes. Nope, you're wrong. Black does absorb all wavelengths, while white reflects them. And a glossy finish does make a difference on radiant energy reflected vs. absorbed. Yes, you're correct. I phrased it incorrectly. Black absorbs and does not reflect the color spectrum. That's what I was trying to say. I had it right in my mind, just phrased it wrong. I was using what we see as synonymous with absorb/reflect. White is the opposite as it shows (we see) all colors in the spectrum. Flat black or glossy still abosorbs the spectrum and we see it as black. Thats' what I meant by black is black. Gloss will provide a bit of flash, but that is a property of the finish, not the color.
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| Soooo ,,, do you guys think that painting lures and blades with a FLAT paint is a good idea ??? ---- could be a flat black, flat green, flat orange, flat etc ---- thanks ---- jimjimjim |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I'm not an expert on colors and what they mean, but my theory would be flat colors vs gloss won't make a difference. I'm sure both would catch fish, and we'd likely be hard pressed to see a difference in the catch rate with either.
With that said, I would probably typically prefer a gloss finish hoping it may offer a little more flash in the water.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Flat black is great! I use that color alot on my old, beat up baits. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | sworrall - 4/26/2013 11:19 AM
Flat black is great! I use that color alot on my old, beat up baits.
Steve,
Do you think it works any better than gloss black would? Any reason for the flat black or is it just because you have it laying around? |
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Location: WI | Just fish. Too much overthinking going on. |
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| I have 100% confidence from fishing muskie many years that I could catch a fish on a cut off hockey stick handle with Sherwood logo still painted on it.... |
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| I am going to catch a musky on a hot dog this year. |
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Location: E. Tenn | JKahler - 4/26/2013 4:16 PM
Just fish. Too much overthinking going on.
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Location: E. Tenn | esoxaddict - 4/26/2013 6:00 PM
I am going to catch a musky on a hot dog this year.
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| Had a flat black 10 inch suick which now has no paint on it still catches fish like when it was new. |
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| esoxaddict - 4/26/2013 5:00 PM
I am going to catch a musky on a hot dog this year.
Be sure to rig it with thru-wire construction!  My friend has often said we could catch a muskie on a barn door hinge.
Maybe that should be the challenge in 2013. Let's have a contest to see who can intentionally catch a muskie on the most unusual lure. Could be interesting. |
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| miket55 - 4/27/2013 10:54 AM
esoxaddict - 4/26/2013 6:00 PM
I am going to catch a musky on a hot dog this year.
What color? :o
Flat black, of course!
The real question is how to rig it, and if it still counts as catching a musky on a hot dog if you put #10 blades in front of it. As far as rigging it? I'm thinking a simple wire with a loop on both ends. Attach a hook on one end and your leader on the other. If I really want to get creative I guess I could add a second hook in the center. Hmm. How does one properly weight a hot dog? And how do you know which side is up? Do you twitch it or work it on the surface?
Crap, it's a good thing they come in packages of 8. This may be more complicated than I originally thought!
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Maybe I'm old school, but I have had more success with Victoriaville sticks. In the autumn when they start looking for a bigger meal, I switch up to goalie stick.
Guest - 4/26/2013 4:56 PM
I have 100% confidence from fishing muskie many years that I could catch a fish on a cut off hockey stick handle with Sherwood logo still painted on it.... |
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Location: Wakefield, MI | esoxaddict - 4/26/2013 5:00 PM
I am going to catch a musky on a hot dog this year.
My dad tried carp fishing with a weedless corn dog, didn't catch anything.
I have a bunch of flat black Suicks that are all beat up, great color. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Flat black Suicks and ReefHawgs tend to be wood colored pretty quickly. |
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Flat Black ???