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| Before I drop close to $500 on one I'm looking for some input. The main thing I do is throw big blades, and my first thought is get the pg...however after reading some threads it seems alot of guys are throwing blades with and preferring the hg for this application. Who has or has used both, and what do you prefer for strictly big blades? |
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Lets put it this way....
Bass size spinner baits on my bass gear have about twice as much pull as double 13s do on the PG TranX. It doesnt feel like your reeling a musky bait. I'm not exagerating |
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| Get the PG and don't look back. You can still burn with it, and you'll stay fresh all day. You can use the HG but if you go on a week long trip and toss 10's+ blades 90% of the time, it will suck eventually.
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| you should really try and throw both before you buy one! the HG is geared high for speed so of course you are going to have resistance...and the PG is definitely effortless but lacks speed! |
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| Check out an Avet two speed. Best of both worlds. Plus they are made in America. The only issues are no levelwind or thumbar. |
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Location: Minnesota | Big blades pg all the way big rubber hg |
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| I have both reels, so this is from experience. The only place the PG has a leg up on the HG for blades is if you are primiarly throwing 13s or larger. The PG makes those baits feel like nothing which helps a lot with fatigue.
However, if you want to burn blades then the HG is the way to go. IMO the HG is the reel for bucktails. It has plenty of power, just not the same as the PG, but it makes up for it in the line pick up department. |
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| Brad P - 3/12/2013 12:19 PM
I have both reels, so this is from experience. The only place the PG has a leg up on the HG for blades is if you are primiarly throwing 13s or larger. The PG makes those baits feel like nothing which helps a lot with fatigue.
However, if you want to burn blades then the HG is the way to go. IMO the HG is the reel for bucktails. It has plenty of power, just not the same as the PG, but it makes up for it in the line pick up department.
What rod did you pair the hg on? |
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| PG. Liked stated above, it is EFFORTLESS to real in your big bucktails. What I also like about the PG is how versatile it is. Yes, the HG is faster, but you can still burn your PG and get it as fast as you need. One thing the PG has that the HG lacks is the ability to use the same reel for slow rolling at night. You cant slow the HG down enough to use it at night in my opinion. If your only going to get one, get the PG first. It still doubles as a good rubber reel also, so for those multiple reasons, the PG is the way to go for your first Tranx. |
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| i used both before buying my PG for blades. PG is fast and effortless. |
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| I have a te400 for bringing in blades effortlessly. I love my hg! |
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| I have both as well - the PG is AWESOME for super models and is much more versitale. I have mine paired with a 9'6 XH Predator and use it for rubber, big blades, large cranks, ect. Fast or slow, the PG is great.
The HG on the otherhand is more of a niche reel that I really only use for one purpose - burning bucktails (or the Shimano Waxwing) fast! This reel does great with showgirls and cowgirl jrs. Very easy to bring them in. Can also burn cowgirls, but you start to notice a little bit of the resistance at this size. It is noticably easier to reel the cowgirls witht he PG than the HG, BUT keep in mind that you are getting an additional 33% line retrieve of the HG than the PG, so you can loose a little on the hand speed but still keeep the lure coming in. I have the HG on a 9'6 H predator.
If I had to get one, I would probably lean towards the PG, just because I could use it for more things. But if you want a true bucktail burning machine for 10's and under, there is no substitute to the HG! |
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Location: Grand Forks ND | My buddies and I have always thought the super model cowgirls pull easier than the regular 10's.
If I were to get a Tranx it would have to be HG. There are less expensive reels out there that will pull big blades effortlessly....and weight about half of the Tranx. There are not many reels that will give you 43+" of line retrieval per crank, however. |
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| MuskyManiac09 - 3/13/2013 3:37 PM
If I were to get a Tranx it would have to be HG. There are less expensive reels out there that will pull big blades effortlessly....and weight about half of the Tranx. There are not many reels that will give you 43+" of line retrieval per crank, however.
Took the words out of my mouth. That statment is why I have a HG. I spend alot of time pulling jerk baits. All most all the motion put to the bait is done with the rod, so I wanted a reel to pick up slack line FAST. There isnt much resistance when reeling in slack line, in fact its like reeling nothing at all!
I can pick up the same slack line with 40-50% less turns of the handle with the HG. It makes for a less tiring day when your not cranking your arms off, yes the reel weighs more but the less cranks over the corse of the day more than makes up for it. |
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| MuskyManiac09 - 3/13/2013 2:37 PM
There are less expensive reels out there that will pull big blades effortlessly....and weight about half of the Tranx.
I have to respectfully disagree. The only reel I have used that is in the same ball park as a PG power wise is a 700TE. I prefer the ergonomics and casting of the PG though. The 400TE can do the job, but doesn't have the gear size or ratio to compete. The 700B has the gear ratio, but the lack of HEG is definitely apparent. The PG is a serious power machine! But it all depends on our definition of "effortlessly." |
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Location: Harrogate,Tennessee------on the Va. and Ky. line. | Just got my Tranx PG for my birthday plus a BigNasty rod. Went to spool it and remembered reading once to spool line to a certain capacity for best results. Anyone with any info, please reply.........
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| Fill it all the way. Guys would fill their Trinidad 2/3 full to gain a lower gear ratio. |
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| cave run legend - 3/21/2013 7:32 PM
Fill it all the way. Guys would fill their Trinidad 2/3 full to gain a lower gear ratio.
Huh? That would change spool diameter, which in turn would change inches per crank, please explain how that changes the reel's gear ratio. |
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| IAJustin - 3/21/2013 8:48 PM
cave run legend - 3/21/2013 7:32 PM
Fill it all the way. Guys would fill their Trinidad 2/3 full to gain a lower gear ratio.
Huh? That would change spool diameter, which in turn would change inches per crank, please explain how that changes the reel's gear ratio.
Sorry professor. It changes the line per crank making it easier. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I have a couple of questions for those who own the PG and have used a Penn 975. How does the retrieve rate compare? I can look at the charts, but I'm looking for a 'reel' comparison. I currently run Penn 975 reels for blades, I have them filled to max, and reel extremely fast to burn. Bottom line is that I wouldn't want a reel that is any slower. However, if the PG was even slightly faster, I'd lok into one. The reliability of my Penns is unpredictable, hence my owning a few of them. I have other high speed reels for rubber/jerks/rippin cranks.
Does anyone palm this reel?
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| Jason, I haven't used a 975 in 5 years, so I haven't compared side by side but they are not in the same ballpark - PG is much faster, PG for the entire cast is faster than a 300 EJ, the EJ is faster only the last 3rd of the cast ...spool diameter makes a huge difference.
Edit - and palm a tranx is easy and comfortable IMO |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | cave run legend - 3/21/2013 8:32 PM Fill it all the way. Guys would fill their Trinidad 2/3 full to gain a lower gear ratio. For that, and because there's no levelwind. My Tranx HG is maxed out on the spool. I echo what those say above, if you're getting a Tranx, make it worthwhile and get the HG. It makes money with it's speed. I've got a 16N and an NA and the HG and they're what I use for blades. I don't mind the pull after the first few days of season and I get in muskie gear shape and then after that it's not a problem to cast all day. If I want an easy pull, it's a 400TE with power handle for me. If I'm gonna spend 500 on a reel, I want that reel to be able to do what no other reel in my boat can do. I don't need a PG that feels and pulls similarly or the same (never had one side-by-side) as my Calcuttas. Not knocking the PG, or the guys that use them for blades, but that's my take on it. |
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| I was under the impression people under-filled their Trinidads to help cut down on backlashes |
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| esoxfly - 3/21/2013 8:59 PM
< I echo what those say above, if you're getting a Tranx, make it worthwhile and get the HG.
Actually reading through the entire thread, you now make it a 7-5 "vote" but the PG is favored. PG is much faster than "standard" size reels |
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Location: menasha wi 54952 | Jason,
I have both reels. I used the 975 for DD10's only. I would consider the 975 an ok reel for that application. It did not cast very well and is slow but effortless. The PG is above and beyond a better choise. Casts very nice and reels effortlessly. It is much faster than the 975. I palm it without a problem and I am HUGE!!!!!
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Location: Kodiak, AK | IAJustin - 3/21/2013 10:10 PM esoxfly - 3/21/2013 8:59 PM < I echo what those say above, if you're getting a Tranx, make it worthwhile and get the HG. Actually reading through the entire thread, you now make it a 7-5 "vote" but the PG is favored. PG is much faster than "standard" size reels Yeah, like I said, nothing against the PG. If someone wants the PG, I say go for it. I've never heard anyone say anything bad about them. But the Calcutta is 25 or 27 per crank and the PG is something like 30. A little faster yes, but for my money I'll still take the 43 of the HG or a Trini. |
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| esoxfly - 3/21/2013 11:13 PM
IAJustin - 3/21/2013 10:10 PM esoxfly - 3/21/2013 8:59 PM < I echo what those say above, if you're getting a Tranx, make it worthwhile and get the HG. Actually reading through the entire thread, you now make it a 7-5 "vote" but the PG is favored. PG is much faster than "standard" size reels Yeah, like I said, nothing against the PG. If someone wants the PG, I say go for it. I've never heard anyone say anything bad about them. But the Calcutta is 25 or 27 per crank and the PG is something like 30. A little faster yes, but for my money I'll still take the 43 of the HG or a Trini.
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| Listed crank speed mean little... a 400 (I have them) is about 18-20" per crank at the end of a cast..... if you just want crazy speed get the HG ..if want speed, and you want to fish hard and fast 10 hrs straight get a PG your forearms will thank you! The Tranx PG and the 700TE take all the work out of tens and they easily move bucktails as fast as you want to fish tails for 99% of conditions.....I advise anyone reading this to try and fish both models for 4-5 hrs (each) you will see what I mean.
Or try an additional $40 POWER handle on the HG and find its still more work! |
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Location: 31 | Reef Hawg - 3/21/2013 8:09 PM I have a couple of questions for those who own the PG and have used a Penn 975. How does the retrieve rate compare? I can look at the charts, but I'm looking for a 'reel' comparison. I currently run Penn 975 reels for blades, I have them filled to max, and reel extremely fast to burn. Bottom line is that I wouldn't want a reel that is any slower. However, if the PG was even slightly faster, I'd lok into one. The reliability of my Penns is unpredictable, hence my owning a few of them. I have other high speed reels for rubber/jerks/rippin cranks. Does anyone palm this reel? Thanks in advance. I bet your hands are bigger than mine and you could palm that reel no problem… I actually prefer it over a smaller reel because my hand fits the Tranx profile better. I don't know anything about a Penn but both of these models are the sickest things I've ever used.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | IAJustin - 3/21/2013 11:34 PM Listed crank speed mean little... a 400 (I have them) is about 18-20" per crank at the end of a cast..... if you just want crazy speed get the HG ..if want speed, and you want to fish hard and fast 10 hrs straight get a PG your forearms will thank you! The Tranx PG and the 700TE take all the work out of tens and they easily move bucktails as fast as you want to fish tails for 99% of conditions.....I advise anyone reading this to try and fish both models for 4-5 hrs (each) you will see what I mean. Or try an additional $40 POWER handle on the HG and find its still more work! Hey, it's cool you like the PG so much and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. Have at it bro, I've just stated why "I" like the HG. This isn't a right or wrong discussion or a competition, and you're trying to make it one by making the HG sound like it's hard to fish and only effective in 1% of fishing...that's a stretch. The HG isn't just for "crazy speed"....you can crank it slower if you want to. PG for you, HG for me. I fish plenty hard and plenty fast, and I can go 10 hrs with my HG just fine. Maybe I'm stubborn, or a glutton for punishment, or just like destroying my forearms, but it's never been the hassle you describe...for me at least. So I bet the PG just feels like butter!...but so do my 400TEs, even if they're only 18". What's the PG per crank in real world, if listed crank means little? Is it truely 30 at the end of it's cast? But when I added the longer, 16NA handle to my HG, it made it very, very comfortable. I suggest folks give that a shot before thinking the HG is an unreasonable beast. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | mreiter - 3/21/2013 9:16 PM
Jason,
I have both reels. I used the 975 for DD10's only. I would consider the 975 an ok reel for that application. It did not cast very well and is slow but effortless. The PG is above and beyond a better choise. Casts very nice and reels effortlessly. It is much faster than the 975. I palm it without a problem and I am HUGE!!!!!
MR
Thanks for the tips guys! Mike, had they picked my card/ticket that night, I'd be telling you how nice a Tranx is...lol. You have me convinced the PG is for me, once I get one for the wife for our 10th anniversery, and then borrow it.
My penns all cast better after 'packing' my line on once a month or so(running some line out behind the boat and cranking it in under load). Makes a diff.
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| esoxfly - 3/22/2013 12:49 AM IAJustin - 3/21/2013 11:34 PM Listed crank speed mean little... a 400 (I have them) is about 18-20" per crank at the end of a cast..... if you just want crazy speed get the HG ..if want speed, and you want to fish hard and fast 10 hrs straight get a PG your forearms will thank you! The Tranx PG and the 700TE take all the work out of tens and they easily move bucktails as fast as you want to fish tails for 99% of conditions.....I advise anyone reading this to try and fish both models for 4-5 hrs (each) you will see what I mean. Or try an additional $40 POWER handle on the HG and find its still more work! Hey, it's cool you like the PG so much and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. Have at it bro, I've just stated why "I" like the HG. This isn't a right or wrong discussion or a competition, and you're trying to make it one by making the HG sound like it's hard to fish and only effective in 1% of fishing...that's a stretch. The HG isn't just for "crazy speed"....you can crank it slower if you want to. PG for you, HG for me. I fish plenty hard and plenty fast, and I can go 10 hrs with my HG just fine. Maybe I'm stubborn, or a glutton for punishment, or just like destroying my forearms, but it's never been the hassle you describe...for me at least. So I bet the PG just feels like butter!...but so do my 400TEs, even if they're only 18". What's the PG per crank in real world, if listed crank means little? Is it truely 30 at the end of it's cast? But when I added the longer, 16NA handle to my HG, it made it very, very comfortable. I suggest folks give that a shot before thinking the HG is an unreasonable beast. Amen!! I am also a huge fan of the HG |
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| I know the HG is a great reel (obviously the same reel other than gear ratio to PG), Ive fished a HG for several days, it has many useful applications. The original post wanted to know opinion's on which model is better for blades. My comment's are strictly based on fishing 10's and 13's at speed (serious speed). Here is a fact: The faster you want to fish 10"s the more resistance they provide, they are a lot of work to reel nearly as fast as you can for hrs on end. Most "musky" reels are fine for fishing ten's "slow" or at night. I wanted another reel to Burn big blades - I compared the two, I actually figured with all the "speed" the HG would be the clear winner, but the faster I wanted to fish the blades the harder it became to reel the HG, the PG gives you a mechanical advantage to fish fast and reduce work. Now you can try to overcome this by adding a power handle - fine, but its still not as "easy". Like most things we use this is a "tool" people have different opinion's. As I've mention if you can go try both. I plan to get the HG as well....to burn 8's  |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I suggest a couple of you dudes using these $500 reels sell one or two at a deep dish discount. & I will help out by trying both of them, and let you know the ratings. :-)))) |
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| ok then you can buy my PG for 380 shipped with 100# performance braid!
Justin I do not understand your reasoning for wanting to use a Tranx for dub 8's as it is a heavy reel. The curado EJ is the best reel I have found so far for burning 8's with a trinidad 12 or 14 in a close second. I am not trying to undermine you here I am just saying that with small light bucktails I feel they perform better being thrown with line in the 65# range...so y not downsize your reel, use a high speed reel, and put lighter line on so you are not getting fatigued throwing a heavier setup with a small bait?! |
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| because of spool diameter. I personally won't fish 65lb on muskie gear, but even if you do load an EJ or 60HS (I like both of them) with 65lb braid - You throw roughly 20% of the line capacity of these smaller reels on a long cast.. on an Tranx HG you would throw 10-12% of line capacity. You don't get the inches per crank on a small spool... A Tranx PG is faster than an EJ for 2/3 of the cast. An HG smokes small blades with little effort. I don't find the weight of the reel to be an issue. |
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Location: 31 | IAJustin - 3/22/2013 11:24 AM An HG smokes small blades with little effort. I don't find the weight of the reel to be an issue. x2! It's the weight of the rod and bait that wears me out rather than a few extra ounces of reel in hand. The HG also "smokes" small cranks/topwaters too, and picks up line faster with jerks. I also agree that the PG is the better choice for big blades.
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Location: Eagan, MN | How well does a tranx CAST compared to say a 400te??? |
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| cast10K - 3/22/2013 2:37 PM How well does a tranx CAST compared to say a 400te??? I never used a 400te, but i will say it casts just as good as any of my curado 300s. The reel is alot smoother than my curados in over all function. |
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| you can bomb cast the tranx just like a curado....they are fluid...some of the nicest reels made! hands down! |
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Location: Thief River Falls MN | Except for the fact they are clumsy and awkward IMHO... |
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Location: Madison | esoxfly - 3/21/2013 11:49 PM
IAJustin - 3/21/2013 11:34 PM Listed crank speed mean little... a 400 (I have them) is about 18-20" per crank at the end of a cast..... if you just want crazy speed get the HG ..if want speed, and you want to fish hard and fast 10 hrs straight get a PG your forearms will thank you! The Tranx PG and the 700TE take all the work out of tens and they easily move bucktails as fast as you want to fish tails for 99% of conditions.....I advise anyone reading this to try and fish both models for 4-5 hrs (each) you will see what I mean. Or try an additional $40 POWER handle on the HG and find its still more work! Hey, it's cool you like the PG so much and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. Have at it bro, I've just stated why "I" like the HG. This isn't a right or wrong discussion or a competition, and you're trying to make it one by making the HG sound like it's hard to fish and only effective in 1% of fishing...that's a stretch. The HG isn't just for "crazy speed"....you can crank it slower if you want to. PG for you, HG for me. I fish plenty hard and plenty fast, and I can go 10 hrs with my HG just fine. Maybe I'm stubborn, or a glutton for punishment, or just like destroying my forearms, but it's never been the hassle you describe...for me at least. So I bet the PG just feels like butter!...but so do my 400TEs, even if they're only 18". What's the PG per crank in real world, if listed crank means little? Is it truely 30 at the end of it's cast? But when I added the longer, 16NA handle to my HG, it made it very, very comfortable. I suggest folks give that a shot before thinking the HG is an unreasonable beast.
Agree with esox fly, the HG is zero problem to toss for 10-12 hours a day for a week straight. The worst part of it is the weight of the reel, and PG is the same in that department. |
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| Are these reels ever going to be made in a left hand model? |
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| I don't Think so :/ but sure as he** hope must have a hg then :D |
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