Trolling Leaders ?
jimjimjim
Posted 3/5/2013 12:17 PM (#623088)
Subject: Trolling Leaders ?




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I troll with 5" to 7" Lures ,,, have always used 4' long wire leaders ,,, in that I use smaller lures, do you think it would be safe to use Florocarbon leaders instead of wire ?? I'm worried that a big fish might take the whole lure in its mouth and cut the Floro leader resulting in a nice fish swimming around with a lure stuck in its mouth --- what do you use ?? --- jimjimjim
bigfoot
Posted 3/5/2013 1:58 PM (#623123 - in reply to #623088)
Subject: RE: Trolling Leaders ?





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Location: Grand Marais, MN
How often are you getting fish to get the whole bait in their mouths now?

Ive never had or been told of any fish biting through 100lb fluoro, but im sure it can happen.
CU301DSV
Posted 3/5/2013 5:10 PM (#623186 - in reply to #623088)
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I troll in LSC quite a bit and tie my own leaders from 125lb mono leader material. This leader is about 5' long and I use it to troll everything from 5" lures to like 9" lures or larger. Never had a problem.
muskie24/7
Posted 3/5/2013 8:43 PM (#623264 - in reply to #623186)
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36" StealthTackle 130# Trolling leaders will do the job just fine!
heckster
Posted 3/5/2013 9:55 PM (#623281 - in reply to #623186)
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Also A "Musky Dick" Leader in the same length and LB test Will do just as good, maybe better as a Stealth or any of the larger guys. And they are sold at a reasonable and still much lower than the others.
V18
Posted 3/6/2013 4:28 AM (#623318 - in reply to #623088)
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I've had one fish bite through 100 lb flouro a few years ago. Granted I wasn't trolling, but was casting a Rubber Dubber. Felt the bump and set the hook. Felt nothing, no weight, nothing. That fish chomped right through it on the strike. So yes it does happen.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 3/6/2013 5:49 AM (#623323 - in reply to #623088)
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Why do they have to be so long?
Jeff Hanson
Posted 3/6/2013 8:42 AM (#623371 - in reply to #623323)
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I have John from Stealth Tackle make me 60" 100# floro leaders for trolling caught hundreds of fish on them trolling no problems. They are fine if you are trolling open water or weeds.
If you are trolling structure (rock or wood) you will want to go with wire then I have some 48" -49 strand coated wire leaders from Stealth for that.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
jimjimjim
Posted 3/6/2013 8:58 AM (#623377 - in reply to #623371)
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If nobody has had any bite-offs ,,, then why use a leader at all ??? -- jimjimjim
tardtardtard
Posted 3/6/2013 9:31 AM (#623396 - in reply to #623377)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?


Your not really that stupid are you? People are not getting bit off because they are using leaders.
jimjimjim
Posted 3/6/2013 12:20 PM (#623473 - in reply to #623396)
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Tard ---- if no one is actually experiencing bite-offs with Florocarbon ,,,, then it seems apparent that we do not need to use leaders at all ,, we can simply attach the line to the lure,,,, if the fish dont cut the Floro ,, they wont cut the 100# test braid either ---- ???? ----- jimjimjim
BenR
Posted 3/6/2013 12:27 PM (#623476 - in reply to #623088)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?


poor logic.
curleytail
Posted 3/6/2013 12:35 PM (#623479 - in reply to #623088)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?




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Jim, you may not have experience with fluoro. Try cutting fluoro with a knife and then use the same knife to cut braid. The fluoro is a lot harder to cut, especially if you are using 130# plus, which is what I'm comfortable with.
jimjimjim
Posted 3/6/2013 12:40 PM (#623482 - in reply to #623479)
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CurlyTail ----- Thanks !! ,,, I didnt know that --- thanks again --- jimjimjim
bigfoot
Posted 3/6/2013 3:26 PM (#623554 - in reply to #623473)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?





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jimjimjim - 3/6/2013 12:20 PM

Tard ---- if no one is actually experiencing bite-offs with Florocarbon ,,,, then it seems apparent that we do not need to use leaders at all ,, we can simply attach the line to the lure,,,, if the fish dont cut the Floro ,, they wont cut the 100# test braid either ---- ???? ----- jimjimjim


I think a lot of guys use fluoro leaders for the reduction in visibility of the line, not just to prevent biteoffs. Perhaps the visibility isn't an issue all the time, but it cant hurt as long as the leader doesnt impede the action of the lure.

Also a nice long fluoro leader will help reduce injury to the fish in the event it gets wrapped up in the line.

BenR
Posted 3/6/2013 3:27 PM (#623555 - in reply to #623088)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?


I use them for the safety of the fish, much easier on them. BR
Targa01
Posted 3/6/2013 8:21 PM (#623641 - in reply to #623088)
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What Ben said.

Plus it doesn't kink easy. Had more wire leaders fail because of a slight kink; ones I thought were fine. Still use wire on LOTW though! That's a must in my eyes.
muskie24/7
Posted 3/7/2013 5:19 AM (#623700 - in reply to #623396)
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tardtardtard - 3/6/2013 10:31 AM

Your not really that stupid are you? People are not getting bit off because they are using leaders.


EASY Fellas! Everyone on here doesn't know EVERYTHING there is to know about muskie fishing! Hell, some people may even try and learn from you! LOL
Tim Kelly
Posted 3/7/2013 11:12 AM (#623783 - in reply to #623088)
Subject: Re: Trolling Leaders ?





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Location: London, England
I like an 8-12" solid wire leader with a 3-4' heavy mono or fluoro leader attached to it. The wire covers the teeth and the fluoro/mono protects the fish that roll up on the line. Seems like the best solution to me.