gopro hero3
Clint
Posted 12/25/2012 11:23 AM (#605201)
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I got a hero 3 camera and in the packaging it says a product update is required before using, so I go to their website and click on updates and the website crashes and says service unavailable. has anyone had this problem or know how to fix this?
bmxrider11976
Posted 12/25/2012 11:42 AM (#605205 - in reply to #605201)
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its possible that a bunch of other people are trying to sign on as well with their new go pro, so maybe the site got overloaded.
CU301DSV
Posted 12/25/2012 1:55 PM (#605221 - in reply to #605201)
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They just posted an apology on Facebook for the complications they're having.
Clint
Posted 12/25/2012 10:05 PM (#605294 - in reply to #605201)
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just liked the gopro facebook page so hopefully they will post updates when they get it fixed, thanks for the info
50+
Posted 12/25/2012 11:00 PM (#605298 - in reply to #605201)
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Think I saw some where, might of been the FB page that it can be used out of the box. The only thing it updates is the firmware so the wifi works. I could be wrong though...
FAT-SKI
Posted 12/26/2012 7:13 AM (#605324 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3




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Clint - 12/25/2012 11:23 AM

I got a hero 3 camera and in the packaging it says a product update is required before using, so I go to their website and click on updates and the website crashes and says service unavailable. has anyone had this problem or know how to fix this?


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I just got a GoPro Hero3 as well this year and tried this. Same thing happened to me. My issue is, I do not have a facebook (like the rest of the world). Does anyone have any idea when they may be back up and running again?? Or know of a way that I can find that information out?

Also my second ? is.. Where would I purchase a polarized lenz for the camera?? I saw on another thread earlier that they were talking about this lenz and I would very much like to get one. Can I just get them from normal retailers ie, BestBuy, Target, Gander mountain?? Or is it something that I have to purchase online from their website?
SeanL
Posted 12/26/2012 12:50 PM (#605387 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3


You can't buy a polarized lens like you might with sunglasses. On the GoPro you get the polarization from a filter that fits between the lens and the housing. Search the forums for more discussion on the topic with links to where you can get them. You could call Best Buy or similar electronics stores and see if they carry them.
catchandrelease
Posted 12/26/2012 2:09 PM (#605398 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




Their website is up and running again
dtaijo174
Posted 12/26/2012 2:14 PM (#605400 - in reply to #605324)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3





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FAT-SKI - 12/26/2012 7:13 AM

Also my second ? is.. Where would I purchase a polarized lenz for the camera?? I saw on another thread earlier that they were talking about this lenz and I would very much like to get one. Can I just get them from normal retailers ie, BestBuy, Target, Gander mountain?? Or is it something that I have to purchase online from their website?


I got a polarized lens for x-mas. I have NOT field tested it... came from Polar Pro I believe. I'll edit this post if I am incorrect.
FAT-SKI
Posted 12/26/2012 3:31 PM (#605411 - in reply to #605400)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3




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dtaijo174 - 12/26/2012 2:14 PM

FAT-SKI - 12/26/2012 7:13 AM

Also my second ? is.. Where would I purchase a polarized lenz for the camera?? I saw on another thread earlier that they were talking about this lenz and I would very much like to get one. Can I just get them from normal retailers ie, BestBuy, Target, Gander mountain?? Or is it something that I have to purchase online from their website?


I got a polarized lens for x-mas. I have NOT field tested it... came from Polar Pro I believe. I'll edit this post if I am incorrect.


fantastic thank you!
weedsnager
Posted 12/26/2012 7:25 PM (#605458 - in reply to #605201)
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I updated mine today, try to do it again
50+
Posted 12/26/2012 7:35 PM (#605461 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: PA
The Polar Pro are available on Amazon for $12.99
FAT-SKI
Posted 12/27/2012 8:25 AM (#605532 - in reply to #605461)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
Another interesting question. I was looking on Amazon and I found a red filter for the camera for underwater viewing in the ocean with blue water. But I was wondering if anyone has used one or know of anyone that has used one??? Do they work as well for lakes opposed to the ocean??? Just curious, I found a 3 pack of filters for $24.95. One red, One magenta and one polarized. So I got it and thought I would give it a shot. Let me know if you guys have used one? Thanks
rjhyland
Posted 3/3/2013 3:28 PM (#622632 - in reply to #605201)
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What kind of battery life are you guys getting out of the new GP3's? I've read some pretty disappointing reviews on the battery life and charging. Has GoPro corrected this?

Thanks,
Ron
FAT-SKI
Posted 3/4/2013 7:51 AM (#622757 - in reply to #622632)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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rjhyland - 3/3/2013 3:28 PM

What kind of battery life are you guys getting out of the new GP3's? I've read some pretty disappointing reviews on the battery life and charging. Has GoPro corrected this?

Thanks,
Ron


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I get right around 5 hours on average on a charge
weedsnager
Posted 3/4/2013 8:07 AM (#622760 - in reply to #622757)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: St. John, Indiana
FAT-SKI - 3/4/2013 7:51 AM

rjhyland - 3/3/2013 3:28 PM

What kind of battery life are you guys getting out of the new GP3's? I've read some pretty disappointing reviews on the battery life and charging. Has GoPro corrected this?

Thanks,
Ron


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I get right around 5 hours on average on a charge


with the standard battery your getting 5 hours? i have the extra battery bacpac on mine, and ive been getting about 5 hours on mine out in the cold using it while skiing
FAT-SKI
Posted 3/4/2013 8:23 AM (#622761 - in reply to #622760)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
weedsnager - 3/4/2013 8:07 AM

FAT-SKI - 3/4/2013 7:51 AM

rjhyland - 3/3/2013 3:28 PM

What kind of battery life are you guys getting out of the new GP3's? I've read some pretty disappointing reviews on the battery life and charging. Has GoPro corrected this?

Thanks,
Ron


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I get right around 5 hours on average on a charge


with the standard battery your getting 5 hours? i have the extra battery bacpac on mine, and ive been getting about 5 hours on mine out in the cold using it while skiing


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Yeah the first five or so times I used it I had about 5 hours on a charge. I then brought it to LOTW last weekend and had some other issues with it. It was not filming correctly. It would start to record, then stop after one second. Not only that but none of the pictures I took in LOTW came through o0n the micorSD card either. SO I have no idea what happened to mine. But when I brought it back and recroded.. start to finsh I got about 4.5 hours on it and it worked great. So I have NO CLUE what happened in LOTW. Just a glich maybe? kind of a crappy place to have a glich
rjhyland
Posted 3/4/2013 8:38 AM (#622765 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
Ski,
Thanks for the input and your not alone. On the GoPro webpage there are over 100 reviews to read and it seems at least half of he reviews describe what you just said. I was thinking about buying this camera but will probably hold off untill GoPro fixes the issues. Have you done any firmware updates on it lately? GoPro is aware of the issues and hopefully firmware updates can correct this.Sorry to hear about LOTW, thats gotta be frustrating.
rjhyland
Posted 3/4/2013 10:14 AM (#622786 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
Weed,
Are you using the Hero 2 or Hero 3?
weedsnager
Posted 3/4/2013 10:37 AM (#622789 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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silver hero 3
rjhyland
Posted 3/4/2013 2:25 PM (#622843 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
Weed,
Ok, that's awesome then. Along with the problems Ski was having alott, and I mean alottt of people were only getting around 40 mins a charge. Saying the battery sucked. Did you do a firmware update?
weedsnager
Posted 3/4/2013 2:26 PM (#622844 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: St. John, Indiana
the last update i did was right after christmas
FAT-SKI
Posted 3/4/2013 8:30 PM (#622950 - in reply to #622765)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
rjhyland - 3/4/2013 8:38 AM

Ski,
Thanks for the input and your not alone. On the GoPro webpage there are over 100 reviews to read and it seems at least half of he reviews describe what you just said. I was thinking about buying this camera but will probably hold off untill GoPro fixes the issues. Have you done any firmware updates on it lately? GoPro is aware of the issues and hopefully firmware updates can correct this.Sorry to hear about LOTW, thats gotta be frustrating.


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rjhland, thanks man, I actually didn't know about those reviews so thanks for the heads up. I'm glad I'm not alone. Yes, I have done updates on it, but haven't checked for them since I got back from my trip, so I will check. And don't feel to bad, there were 3 other gopro's there, plenty of good pics and videos were taken. So I at least still have all that, just sucks that mine didn't work. But hopefully GoPro corrects the issue, and hopefully it's BEFORE the season opens.
rjhyland
Posted 3/6/2013 7:59 PM (#623637 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





Posts: 456


Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
I am still debating on getting a Silver 3 or just going with the proven 2 Outdoors package .GoPro really seems to be sitting on their laurels with the 3 and it's preventing me from pulling the trigger.
Here is 51 pages (so far) of bug issues and fixes by the end users: http://goprouser.freeforums.org/all-hd3-problems-issues-report-disc...
I hope you get yours working flawlessly before the season opener and I hope I can decide what to do before then.
Dropping 3 to 4 hundy on a camera and have it not work properly out of the box is mind boggling. Maybe they should have made by Shimano and Weeds must have been made on a Tuesday.
Ron
sworrall
Posted 3/6/2013 8:23 PM (#623643 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Look at the V.I.O. POV HD. Best camera out there, and tough as nails. Loop record, excellent audio, and a good discount. Runs on AA batteries, about 3.5 to 4 hours on a set of rechargables. Comfortable to wear, and lots of mounting otions, plus a 12 volt adapter power pack.

I've had V.I.O. cameras for years, starting with the original, the 1.0 and then the 1.5. The new HD is the best I have owned. We have tried several brands of the Go pro style cameras, and ended up going back to the V.I.O.
rjhyland
Posted 3/6/2013 10:24 PM (#623665 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
Steve,
Thanks for the post, and very enticing. I went to the V.I.O website but they didn't have allot of information on what kind of SD card, length of video on settings, editing software, slow mo, zoom, hardware options, cables needed and ect.
I will check it out.
Thanks,
Ron
sworrall
Posted 3/6/2013 10:58 PM (#623667 - in reply to #623665)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

The camera accepts an SDHC card. I'm using a 32 gig class 10 right now. Here's the specs, and they are offering a 20% off deal right now.

This camera loop records. I have mine set at 15 minutes, which I have found to be more than enough. Soon as the fish is released, hit tag, then record, then record again. Only the last 15 minutes are saved, so a 32 gig card will last a REALLY long time and editing is a snap.

The microphone, camera, and DVR are weather proof, so no need to do anything at all if it starts raining. I mount the camera on a hat brim and route the cable down the back of the hat, then tuck the DVR in a pocket or belt pack.

I have one set up with the 12 volt adapter power pack, will use it on 1080 at 142 degrees, and cover a wide portion of the boat with a mount. I can tag with the remote while also wearing a V.I.O. on my cap...two points of view with independent audio using the mic-in port and a wireless microphone if the weather permits. I need to experiment with that function using our wireless sets, which will allow a shotgun OR lapel from the receiver hooked to the Mic-in and another lapel mic to be worn by another angler or placed in by the DVR. I'll let you know if it works after the weekend.

VIDEO - 1080p HD Video
Resolution/Frame Rates: 1080p/30fps, 1080p/25fps, 1080p/24fps, 720p/60fps, 720p/50fps, 720p/30fps, 720p/25fps, 480p/30fps, 480p/25fps
Video Codec: H.264
Video Container: MPEG-4
Exposure control: Automatic Exposure Control and White Balance

IMAGING HARDWARE - Advanced Native 1080p CMOS Sensor
Sensor: 1/2.7” HD CMOS sensor, 3.0 µ meter pixel size
Dynamic Range: 69 dB
Sensitivity: 3300 mV/(lux-sec)
Operating Temp: -20°C to +60°C (-4°F to +140°F)
Processor: 32 Bit ARM Microprocessor, 10 Bit Image

OPTICS - Widest 1080p FOV On The Market
Aperture: f/2.0, Relative Illumination @ Full Field 90%
Focus Distance: .7m - Infinity
Field Of View: 142° (1080p), 95° (720p)

AUDIO - Built In Mic
Audio Codec: AAC
Mic Type: Monaural Omni-directional Cable-mounted, -40dB sensitivity at 1kHz
Resolution: 16 Bit Half Duplex
Sampling Rate:16kHz
SNR: 80dB
Speaker: Monaural 8 ohm Mylar, 0.7W Max

DATA HANDLING - 32GB SDHC
Max Storage Media: 32GB SDHC
File Functions: Record, Playback, Delete
I/O Ports: SD Card Slot, USB 2.0 High Speed (Mini-B), Mic-In, NTSC/PAL Analog TV /Audio Out (Live Stream Capable)
Record Time: 4.33hrs (1080p 30fps/720p 60fps) 15Mbit/S

USER INTERFACE - Ease Of Use
Image Display: 2 Inch LCD Screen, Resolution 640x320
Navigation Controls: All On Recording Unit, Including Quick Mode Select Keys For Recording, Playback, & Set-Up Modes.
Auxiliary Controls: RF Remote Control With Record, Tag, & Stop Controls
Functionality: Record, Tagging, File Navigation Including Select, Playback, & Delete. Recording Configurable for either Standard Clip, Loop, or Loop and Forward. User-configurable Camera Settings Via Settings Menu Screens.

SIZE & MASS - Lightweight + Compact
Recording Unit: 40mm x 60mm x 167mm, 328 grams (With 4 AA Batteries)
Camera Head: 58 grams
Remote Control: 24 grams (With A27 Battery)
Digital A-V Cable: Approximately 1.5 meter Length, 128 grams
Battery/Runtime: 4 AA Alkaline/2.5hrs (1080p 30fps/720p 60fps), 4 AA Lithium Ion/5hrs (1080p 30fps/720p 60fps)

 

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ProFishermanJones
Posted 3/6/2013 11:50 PM (#623677 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





Thanks for the info, I seen a muskie video using the VIO POV on youtube and the quality wasn't the greatest but I'm sure it was probably due to the editing program used! Im going to look into the VIO POV as spare camera thanks for the info.

My first GoPro that i was using every day ended up having an error as well and would randomly turn off after i started recording, i called GoPro and sent it back and they had a new one to me asap, i was very impressed with there customer service and understanding of the problem at hand. I have 3 batteries for my one camera and can get a full day out of 1 and a half batteries filming 720 at 60fps
Wisconsin Playground
Posted 3/7/2013 12:40 AM (#623681 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3


The Quality was not the greatest because the VIO POV is not that good. The video you saw was posted by the company themselves.

You can post all the technical specs and features the VIO POV has steve but the proof of the quality of video is in the final product. The GoPros default FPS and quality is without a doubt much better than the VIO POV. You don't have to worry about any nerdy wires going down your back or crushing the base in your pocket. Less shake too and the far distance quality seems to be much better also.

Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4PRQypgLJs

Just like anything you need to practice with the equipment to get the best out of it. The GoPro is an actual hand held camera, fully waterproof, and far more practical for a fisherman. The average guy is not going to get the best or average production value out of it as easy or as quick out of the VIO POV as they would a GoPro. Not everyone is a specifications expert such as yourself Steve. The whole point is to catch fish while you are on the water.
rjhyland
Posted 3/7/2013 8:41 AM (#623730 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Steve, thanks for the specs. I like that tag idea of saving what you want, nice option and i like that mini DVR..
Playground, nice video. I am guessing since that clip was posted in September it was shot with the Hero 2 since the Hero 3 came out in November of 2012?
Allot of info to digest.
Thanks.
SeanL
Posted 3/7/2013 11:58 AM (#623797 - in reply to #623730)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3


(Disclaimer: I have not used the VIO.) The VIO has some nice features, but the final product is not that compelling, especially for $500 and when you compare it to the GoPro. While the price after accessories and other odds and ends might approach $500 for a GoPro, you get a lot more versatility. Not that impressed with the quality of the muskie footage on VIO's website (the catches themselves are impressive and the action is good, but the image quality is mediocre). The walleye video was not shot with a VIO (a small fraction of the footage was it seems), unless the VIO has a zoom lens I'm not aware of. In terms of versatility, the GoPro can double as a pretty high quality stills camera (can provide sample images if wanted). You can shoot some great time lapses with the GoPro, too.

In the end, it probably depends on what you want to do with the camera and how much you desire to be creative. If you strictly want to shoot video, either camera will yield satisfactory results. If you want a video camera AND a stills camera or a camera capable of shooting stills-based time lapses then the GoPro is for you. If VIO offered 1080p/60fps then the $500 price tag would be well justified over the GoPro strictly for video, but they don't...
sworrall
Posted 3/7/2013 12:05 PM (#623801 - in reply to #623681)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
SeanL;
Read the below review, your post was inaccurate. Look at the actual current pricing, too please.

More importantly, (walleye footage as you posted it) the Holst review on the VIO site SHOWS how they INCORPORATE the POV video into their TV footage and describes why they like the camera. Wacth that piece again and listen to what they are saying for a better understanding of that testimonial.


The V.I.O. is on sale right now at $399.00. One would need to compare this with the Hero3 if you look at all the specs.

Expect the current pricing to last awhile. OFM might be able to beat that if you are going to shoot and edit lots of Muskie content this year, more on that very soon.

Be aware also that V.I.O. POV was purchased a few months ago by the same company that builds MarCum, based out of the Twin Cities. It will be great for the brand, and even better for the future of the brand.



Wisconsin Playground - 3/7/2013 12:40 AM

The Quality was not the greatest because the VIO POV is not that good. The video you saw was posted by the company themselves.

You can post all the technical specs and features the VIO POV has steve but the proof of the quality of video is in the final product. The GoPros default FPS and quality is without a doubt much better than the VIO POV. You don't have to worry about any nerdy wires going down your back or crushing the base in your pocket. Less shake too and the far distance quality seems to be much better also.

Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4PRQypgLJs

Just like anything you need to practice with the equipment to get the best out of it. The GoPro is an actual hand held camera, fully waterproof, and far more practical for a fisherman. The average guy is not going to get the best or average production value out of it as easy or as quick out of the VIO POV as they would a GoPro. Not everyone is a specifications expert such as yourself Steve. The whole point is to catch fish while you are on the water.

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I checked out the link. The video you linked was badly pixelated and very highly compressed, undoubtedly because of the editing software. What were you trying to say there? It is common for folks to use free, onboard editing programs because that's what they have and they are not trying to produce a masterpiece that can be snapped to a 50" TV with perfect clarity. the end product is not representative of the capacity of the camera in either case.

The V.I.O. video is unexcelled; I tried them all. Sure, the Hero3 offers very similar video quality; that's all in the glass and both offer a fairly advanced lens for a POV camera.

It's up to the editor to use the correct codec when rendering and publish the video in the highest resolution; IF that's the goal. In most cases on the web it isn't. 720p is PLENTY on the web.

The average guy most certainly will get 'the best or average production value out of it as easy or as quick out of the VIO POV as they would a GoPro', that's just silly to say anyone wouldn't. The VIO settings are very easy to access on the on board lcd screen, the filed of view at 1080 is 142 degrees, and the camera is very comfortable to wear and easy to use. No plastic case effecting audio and video quality in the rain, multiple microphone options, and options for recording that make editing easy and quick and prolongs the actual useable video recording capacity of the SDHC card. Plus, the POV runs on rechargeable AA batteries, easy to buy, easy to carry, and fast to charge at less than 15 minutes. A class 10 sdhc card instead of micro sd. We've had some issues with the micro cards, never have with an sdhc.

You obviously have not used a POV HD.

Obviously the point is to catch fish. It's also to record the experience, and my experience has shown the VIO to be the best unit out there for what OFM does, especially in bad weather. Buy what you want; I'm just offering up what the VIO will do for consideration.



Here's why we use this camera, from a review:

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The POV.HD's camera features an ultrawide-angle six-element glass lens that captures a 142-degree field of vision when recording at 1,080p and crops to 95 degrees at 720p. When in 1,080p, frames are captured at 30 frames per second while 720p captures are at 60fps--great for post-production slow motion. There are also 720p capture modes at 25fps and 50fps for better compatibility with the camera's PAL capture mode. The camera is permanently connected to one end of an approximately 4-foot cable with a screw-on connection at the other for attaching the POV.HD recorder.

The second part of the package is the POV.HD recorder with LCD. The recorder is powered by four AA batteries and features a 2.5-inch full-color LCD that can be used to line up the camera, play back recorded video, and for basic video editing, features that the GoPro doesn't offer and the Contour requires additional hardware for. We use a variety of sports cameras like this to record the on-the-road segment of the Car Tech Live podcast, and let me tell you, it's great to be able to frame shots and check out the footage from the side of the road, rather than getting all the way back to the office to find that we've spent the last few hours recording with the lens improperly angled.Interface and video capture

The unit features four capture modes. Still photo does exactly what it sounds like: captures a single photograph in JPEG format with each tap of the record button. Clip mode starts recording video in MOV or MP4 format (user-selectable) and stops when the button is tapped again. You can tap the Tag button on the recorder or the wireless remote to mark interesting points in the video to access later using video-editing software or by using the Compile Tagged Scenes function to create a highlight reel right on the device itself. Loop and Loop-Forward modes operate a bit differently. These modes continuously capture a loop of video of a selected length. When you hit the Tag button, the current loop of video is saved. This way, you can grab an event after it happened, provided you've had the foresight to select the loop mode to begin with. Loop-forward operates similarly, but continues to record beyond the currently captured loop once the tag button has been pressed, combining the best of the Loop and Clip modes.

With menu options you can control the resolution and frame rate of captured video, the format in which video is captured, and power management options like autoshutdown and screen timeout. There are options for light-metering mode (full frame or spot), exposure compensation, noise filtering, and image sharpening to enable you to fine-tune captures in-camera. There's also a key-lock feature that can be enabled to prevent accidental button presses while recording, while still leaving the wireless remote accessible.

We've mentioned the remote twice now; let's look at it in detail. The RF remote measures approximately 2 inches wide by 1.5 inches tall by 0.5 inch thick and features two buttons, Stop and Record; the Record button serves double duty for tagging clips. The remote is water-resistant and dustproof and has two small loops at either end to allow it to be wrist-mounted or strapped to an anchor.

Getting back to the POV.HD's recorder, the top of the unit holds a socket for plugging in the camera cable, on the front are the waterproof and dustproof control buttons, and at the base of the device is a hatch covering the SDHC card slot. The unit ships with a 4GB card, but accepts up to a 32GB one. The included 4GB card will hold about 1 hour of video and the included alkaline batteries will keep the unit recording for up to 2.5 hours. Under the bottom hatch, you'll also find a microphone input, a video output, and a Mini-USB port for transferring files. Using the microphone jack while recording requires that the device operate without its cover in place, so it will temporarily lose its waterproof and dustproof rating.
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The 'drawbacks' we have found were the need for better instruction on the multiple mounts sent with the camera. Nothing that's all THAT difficult to figure out, and a ton of aftermarket mounts are available. The rest of the operation of a V.I.O. is easy for anyone to understand

'Practicality' for us is based on full function including audio top quality video, and the lcd preview and function screen... under all weather conditions and under all power requirements, especially in the field.

As I said, I used them all, even buying several brands from overseas that have options the Go Pro doesn't, and ended up going back to the V.I.O. for exactly that...practicality and quality. The 30fps at 1080 is more than we need for production for the web. If we were looking at TV production (most folks are not), that still would do the job, and the lens is the best you can buy.

I will shoot some 1080 video this week and post it in high definition.

Someone please tell me what codec they are using for rendering 1080 for web at 60 fps.

The VIO offers 720at 60fps, which is what we use most of the time. If we want a TV quality shoot, we use a production camera.

No need to be rude, by the way. I don't understand why people think that saying something rude will strengthen their position.

I liked the Go Pro style units we have for what they are and what they do, and we'll keep one Gaoki for a net camera mount.
Marc Reynolds
Posted 3/7/2013 12:49 PM (#623833 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Yes, it would be nice to see some HD video shot with the VIO. Overall I think the GoPro videos I've seen are much better quality then VIO.
SeanL
Posted 3/7/2013 12:58 PM (#623836 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3


Steve, you certainly make a compelling case for the VIO (wish I had a spare $400 to see for myself!). I would agree that the video quality will only be as good as the final editing; definition and frame rate will help little if the footage is edited poorly. Sort of peculiar that VIO wouldn't upload well-edited footage onto their site, particularly when GoPro's promotional videos are of such high quality. It appears the VIO can take stills while recording video, which is definitely a plus, although I would need to see samples for myself to judge the quality.

Looks like people use the h.264/AVC codec for rendering 1080p 60 files for web use.
sworrall
Posted 3/7/2013 1:19 PM (#623846 - in reply to #623836)
Subject: RE: gopro hero3





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Some do and some don't. If you use that codec and render to 1080, the resulting file output for much of what muskie guys shoot would be VERY large-- in the area of over 2 gig or more-- would in practice actually eliminate to option to upload to many sites, and would take a very long time for most folks with an average upload speed unless....you adjust the bit rate accordingly. See video below.

I am using Adobe Premier CS6 on my production machine, Power Director 11 on my desktop, and FCP on my Mac.

The new VIO website is a work in progress, and new video will be available as it's shot; they are activley seeking exactly that. The video Chris shot is actually very nice, the compression for that web player wasn't kind to the end product unless you play it only in the window it is displayed in onsite.

Also, please read the following, it will probably change your mind as to what 'definintion' and frame rates actually accomplish in a finished product. 30fps is generally speaking 'better'.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/video-frame-rates-2...

This is a great video that goes into bit rate, pretty important and not addressed anywhere near enough.
Apex
Posted 3/9/2013 12:10 AM (#624426 - in reply to #623730)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Been using this prduct for 4 years and now using a hero 3 black edition. Total actual RECORD time WITH a battery back pack and a 64 g chip is 4 1/2 to 5 hr run time (depending on your shooting resolution). Their update has been in effect since early January to solve all their issues. Have had no problem with mine since updating and using the right micro SD card. These cameras have ALOT of options so take your time to go through them and to get them to work to your liking.
Team Rhino
Posted 3/9/2013 4:12 PM (#624615 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: Appleton
Where is the best place to purchase a VIO is someone wanted to?
rjhyland
Posted 3/10/2013 12:18 AM (#624729 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
I have been looking too Rhino and the VIO webpage has a hundy dollars off right now that puts it right with the Gopro "Crack".
Worrell did say "Expect the current pricing to last awhile. OFM might be able to beat that if you are going to shoot and edit lots of Muskie content this year, more on that very soon."

That's probably your best bet.

Ron
Allen
Posted 3/10/2013 4:31 PM (#624881 - in reply to #624729)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




Location: Ontario, Canada
Something I've always found about this web site is that it's EDUCATIONAL !
No matter if the posts/threads are about fishing, cameras or the environment.

The threads of Steve S and Sean L have really been a learning experience and enjoyable to read. They show that we don't necessarily have to fully agree on things, and we can learn from different points/ideas etc.,

I know posting things can take time depending on one's typing speed, so thanks for taking whatever time you have spent.

I know more now than when I awoke this morning. Thanks for that.

One of these days I'll buy one of these cameras. Therefore, I want to be as informed as possible.


Al,
rjhyland
Posted 3/12/2013 6:29 PM (#625756 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
The current pricing of $399 ended today and the $100 dollar rebate is gone. I emailed them to see if they would honor that special until Friday. I'll see what they say and I hope they don't respond with we will have similar offers in the future.

Ron
Team Rhino
Posted 3/14/2013 9:11 PM (#626633 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3




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Location: Appleton
Steve any details on the VIO if you plan to shoot a bunch of musky footage?
sworrall
Posted 3/15/2013 8:11 AM (#626723 - in reply to #626633)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yes sir, PM me and I'll get you set up.
rjhyland
Posted 3/15/2013 11:02 AM (#626785 - in reply to #605201)
Subject: Re: gopro hero3





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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
Great guys at VIO. I spoke with Jon and they honored the 20% discout for another week. I just placed my order for the HD and am STOKED!
Good day.
Ron