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Location: Ogden, Ut | I've had very good luck w/ Muskie Treats and was wondering how they compare to a similar sized Phantom Softail. They look superficially similar; do they fish similar? I've never tried one. If they aren't appreciably different, I think I'll stick w/ the treat, but if they do different tricks, I might look into a bit of diversification. If they are different, what can one do that the other can't?
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Treats have a more erratic action and they tend to go a little deeper then the phantoms do. You can really get the treats to the desired depth a lot easier and they will stay in that range during the retrieve. I like Phantoms, but they are so consistent with one another. With the treats you get something different from every lure. I personally like the action on the treats much, much better than I do on the Phantoms. Plus nothing compares to well designed custom wood lures. I would take wood over plastic any day. Since getting some treats this year, I have not payed as much attention to the phantoms that I do have. I really want to get my hands on a mag treat for this fall....
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Anonymous - 8/2/2012 10:51 AM
Gliders suck.
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| How do you keep the paint on a treat? all of mine seem to start peeling after a few times out. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | They don't need paint...
Most of my wood baits lose their paint rather quickly. Treats are actually better than a lot of them that I use.
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Yeah, I have used mine almost every time I have been on the water and they really don't loose their paint that bad at all. the guy that makes em is a buddy of mine, he has a ton that uses pretty regularly and all his seem to have great paint jobs still! In fact one of them that I know he uses a lot still looks perfect. If the paint and the epoxy is done correctly then they should last a good while. The one that I have used the most still looks brand new. I just got another one last week and am looking forward to tossing it as soon as the water cools. |
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Location: Manitowish Waters WI | Pepper - 8/2/2012 1:29 PM
How do you keep the paint on a treat? all of mine seem to start peeling after a few times out.
It's a never ending battle for me. All my phantoms start peeling after a few fish. The larger phantoms burn me the most at 38 a pop. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Ahhhhh, the never ending struggle of how to keep a plastic clear coat on an ever changing wood bait. I will admit I had a learning curve in my early years, but I think I've got it figured out. I have a 4 step process that I take to just get the wood ready to paint that takes about a week now. I haven't had any major issues for a couple years with them, but you have to remember this: all wood baits with a good action will peel eventually if you use them. Sorry, but there's no avoiding it. If anyone knows the secret to keep that from happening I will give you a case of my best home brew for it!
There are some things you can do to help keep you wood baits newer longer though:
1. the second the outer clear coat is nicked stop fishing it, dry it out and apply a clear nail polish over the affected area. The #1 cause of clear coats popping is from water expanding the wood and popping the grain ( I soak all my blanks ahead of time now to pop the grain)
2. T your hooks. This will make them less likely to eat through the clear coat.
3. Don't let your baits cook in your boat/on your deck. The compartments can get your baits over 100 degrees and that kind of thermal expansion isn't good for them. Especially when you take them at that temp and throw them in the lake.
4. Stop hitting stuff. These are baits not hammers. We all do it ( myself included) but don't be surprised when they pop after you hit a rock or a log (right toothycritter? CRACK!!!!)
At the end of the day a wood bait will give you better action IMOP, but they're not a permanent bait like a spoon would be. Take care of them and they'll take good care of you. Treat them like a plastic bait and expect to be disappointed in the longevity. |
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| 1) Treats will do everything a softtail Phantom will do, and more. Lots more, especially in the erratic movements. I cannot say the same in reverse.
2) Treat's homebrew is absolutely worth divulging the secret(s) of keeping wood baits from peeling.
3) Plug-n-play does not exist in the musky world IMHO. You have to take care of your baits and tweak as needed/necessary.
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