Posted 7/16/2012 10:12 PM (#572021) Subject: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 532
Location: Ogden, UTAH 10 minutes from pineview reservoir
Just curious what is your favorite glider and why? I am looking for a new glider that is erratic and all over the place not your underwater walk the dog glider.
Posted 7/16/2012 11:25 PM (#572040 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 203
Location: Minnesota
Warlock and Mag Warlock by Bitten Tackle... I would never leave home without one!!! nice erratic actions depending on the speed of retrieve... can be erratic at times...
Posted 7/17/2012 12:17 AM (#572054 - in reply to #572021) Subject: RE: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 532
Location: Ogden, UTAH 10 minutes from pineview reservoir
i have all of the ones listed below, i have moved fish on the warlock and only one on the phantom soft tail and nothing on the squirko. The warlock seems to be the more erratic out of the listed lures above... any other erratic gliders or dive and rise baits that come to mind?
Posted 7/17/2012 3:11 AM (#572066 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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for erratic dive and rise i like the sledge, its caught me some nice fish, i have a warlock and its super erratic and looks awesome in the water but haven't given it enough time because i'm always using my phantom softies. They're the most consistent producer for me.
Posted 7/17/2012 7:47 AM (#572093 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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If you want an erratic glider, I would suggest picking up one of the smaller 6" Crane Jerkbaits. R&H have them online and I'm sure other places up north have them as well. They can be worked slow to get your typical walk-the-dog action or you can work them quickly with short taps or reel turns to get them to be extremely erratic. For me, they have generated a lot of reaction strikes and they are tough as nails.
Posted 7/17/2012 7:51 AM (#572095 - in reply to #572021) Subject: RE: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 469
Location: MN
I am looking for a new glider that is erratic and all over the place If you are looking for erratic action you might want to take a look at Unweighted Burt, both versions.
Posted 7/17/2012 8:15 AM (#572099 - in reply to #572095) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 1224
Location: Okoboji
well by saying erratic that would eliminate the hellhound lol...them things are automatic machines. well i would say if you bang a phantom it is kind of erratic, the warlock as stated before is pretty crazy so it would probally take the cake as far as erratic goes. You might want to try some handmade baits like the modivator, timberwolf, treats, or the outlaw that are made on here by fellow m1 members.....i am dieing to try a modivator, i just have to get my hands on one lol...
Posted 7/17/2012 9:15 AM (#572121 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 84
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Modivators are really nice lures. I have 9 or 10 of them. They glide really well side to side. You can get them to be erratic, but it takes more effort. Great baits, but I would describe them more as a smooth glider.
Posted 7/17/2012 10:10 AM (#572149 - in reply to #572093) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 532
Location: Ogden, UTAH 10 minutes from pineview reservoir
thanks for all the input, the reason i ask is because i fished sunday and moved 21 fish and only boated 1. I moved 17 fish on a black perch musky magnet, warlock, softtail phantom, storm kicking stick and bulldawg. 3 hook ups on the magnet and 1 on the bulldawg. The musky magnet is an awesome erratic lure and was what i caught the tiger on. i would recommend the musky magnet
Brewskis
Posted 7/17/2012 11:22 AM (#572172 - in reply to #572021) Subject: RE: favorite glider and why?
Try a Trueglide Tremor. It moves like the offspring of a suick and glider. There really isn't anything else like it. The only bad part is they are hard to get and command a pretty high price tag.
Posted 7/17/2012 4:37 PM (#572278 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 416
Location: Madtown, WI
Nobody has mentioned the Undertaker yet? Can't believe it. By far the best erratic glidebait I've ever used. Reef hawgs and eddies are good too, but you usually need to buy a few to get one good one. Squirko's are great too but I don't always want to throw something so big. Baby Squirko's also great, but seems like every cast takes 10 mins with those things.
Hellhounds, phantoms and Mantas are great for consistent side to side action but are far from erratic. I typically use an Undertaker from opener till temps start to fall. Then it's Hellhound season.
Posted 7/18/2012 9:22 AM (#572415 - in reply to #572099) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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Location: Canada
kodiak - 7/17/2012 9:15 AM
.....i am dieing to try a modivator, i just have to get my hands on one lol...
PM MuskyFix ( Ben Modica )
I wouldn't call the Modivator an erratic glider but you can get it to do some neat things. Great wobble on these on the glide and even more wobble on the pause. They run a lot deeper than most sub surface gliders. I still haven't tried my Modivator Jr's to see how deep they run (should be shallower than the regular size) and I have a 10" Hardtail coming to me soon (should work as deep or deeper than the regular size).
Posted 7/18/2012 9:42 AM (#572419 - in reply to #572415) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 84
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
CU301DSV - 7/18/2012 9:22 AM
I have a 10" Hardtail coming to me soon (should work as deep or deeper than the regular size).
The 10's work a lot deeper and sink fast. They also attract much bigger fish as would be expected. And to top it all off Ben is a great guy to deal with. Modivators are my favorite glide bait, but then again I like the smoother, more predictable side-to-side gliders. I have seen Ben work the bait erratically though by adding a quick, hard pull-up of the rod. It makes the bait jump up quick and then fall off and wobble down.
Posted 7/18/2012 9:45 AM (#572420 - in reply to #572099) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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kodiak - 7/17/2012 8:15 AM
by saying erratic that would eliminate the hellhound
A few of you guys have said this now and I disagree. Not sure how you guys are using your hellhounds, but they can be worked very erractically. Vary the cadence and vary force of your jerks and they are about as erratic as they come. Even on the death pause, these baits will shimmer, shake and wobble.
Hellhounds have become my go-to gliders...you can use them fast or slow, deep, shallow, erratic, or with a standard rhythmic back and forth. Good hooking %'s as well.
Posted 7/18/2012 9:47 AM (#572421 - in reply to #572419) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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I always did really well with Pig Jr's working them fast and erratic in the summer, and then all my stuff got stolen out of my boat and by that time odyssey was out of business. Got my hands on a few, but would love to get an orange bellied perch.
Posted 7/18/2012 9:52 AM (#572422 - in reply to #572421) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 1224
Location: Okoboji
what?!? hellhounds have got to be the worst hook % glider out there right behind the manta and sorry they are not erratic, if you consider a fast spaz walk return erratic then i suggest you try a warlock and you will see the difference.
Posted 7/18/2012 9:54 AM (#572423 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO
Definitely check out the Hot Tail Gliders customs sold on here from RIVER MUSKY... Hands down my go to glider this year, great random erratic action, can be worked fast or slow, depth control is super easy. Give them a shot if you can get your hands on one, total worth it.
Posted 7/18/2012 10:12 AM (#572426 - in reply to #572422) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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kodiak - 7/18/2012 9:52 AM
what?!? hellhounds have got to be the worst hook % glider out there right behind the manta and sorry they are not erratic, if you consider a fast spaz walk return erratic then i suggest you try a warlock and you will see the difference.
Hey Dude, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't know what you mean by a "fast spaz" retrieve, but it doesn't sound like what I do at all. I don't agree with you at all about the hooking %'s either...but hey, sounds like you've got it all figured out. Good fishing to you.
Posted 7/18/2012 11:40 AM (#572449 - in reply to #572422) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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kodiak - 7/18/2012 9:52 AM
what?!? hellhounds have got to be the worst hook % glider out there right behind the manta and sorry they are not erratic, if you consider a fast spaz walk return erratic then i suggest you try a warlock and you will see the difference.
Wanna bet?? I can make a hellhound dance all over the place, not just a wtd....try it before you call someone out!
Posted 7/18/2012 12:50 PM (#572471 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 1224
Location: Okoboji
i was just stating that i dont think that the hellhound is classified as a erratic glider, and i hear and have lost a lot of fish on the hellhound kinda like the manta, remember the rubber band trick on the manta....i bet you put a bigger hook on the belly of your HH but that being said....i STILL LOVE THEM!!!!! they are known for their ease of use and consistancy. give someone a smutley dog and give someone a hellhound and which do you think they can use better off the bat? that would be the HH cause it is built and designed to walk consistant it is a #*^@ good bait.
with the warlock they just run that way just by walking the dog and twitching, fairly easy. could you share how you make the hellhound run erratic so we here on this forum could try it out?
Posted 7/18/2012 8:04 PM (#572558 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 209
Location: Big Falls MN
what about the lundberg stalker from larry murphy very erratic never does the same thing twice and has a great hooking %. check out his videos on you tube.
Posted 7/18/2012 8:57 PM (#572572 - in reply to #572558) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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Location: Sussex, NJ
Muskyfisher - 7/18/2012 9:04 PM
what about the lundberg stalker from larry murphy very erratic never does the same thing twice and has a great hooking %. check out his videos on you tube.
+2 on the stalker. You can make it dance like no other. I love the action on these baits!
Posted 7/18/2012 9:57 PM (#572581 - in reply to #572021) Subject: RE: favorite glider and why?
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I really like the TurmoilX from Bikini Baits.
learntoswim
Posted 7/18/2012 10:11 PM (#572584 - in reply to #572449) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
hh is a walk the dog baits with just a little belly roll,something that the manta can't do,that being said i would never call a hh a good dancer,of course he dance a lil,but he dance something i can call,up line dance.
now if you want to see something that can do some breakdance you better try old undertaker,jerko,hustler,just to name a few
imho with these you will look more like a micheal jackson instead of willie nelson hehehe.
don't get me wrong the most erratic baits is not necessarily the most productive
Posted 7/19/2012 3:00 PM (#572745 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Posts: 416
Location: Madtown, WI
Yeah sure, hellhounds can be erratic but I don't think they are erratic by design. Trying to make an undertaker or squirko to dance left right left right is an exercise in futility, for me anyways. I suppose you could use a hellhound as an all purpose glide bait (throw your tacklebox away!) but I think there are other baits that fit the erratic niche better.
Posted 7/19/2012 3:14 PM (#572749 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
Location: Contrarian Island
hellhounds have a bad hooking % you say Kodiak????
um I'll say that is called operator error....I do very well on hhounds...and they can be worked erratic...imo there are more erratic gliders that can be "danced" (up/down/left/right) but hhounds are one of the few i throw...
baby squirkos are great
sq phantoms (6")
and sq hellhounds are about the only 3 I throw and catch lots of fish on em all...
Posted 7/19/2012 9:20 PM (#572804 - in reply to #572021) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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I must own a dozen or so Cobb's of all kinds. I personally think they provide the must action in these amount of water covered. I'm surprised they haven't been mentioned yet.
learntoswim
Posted 7/20/2012 1:17 AM (#572828 - in reply to #572615) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
lehighmuskies - 7/18/2012 6:30 AM
dont agree that a manta has no belly roll all the ones i own that work well all have belly roll to them more than any HH i own
it's strange because all the one that i have seen are working exactly like that one
Posted 7/22/2012 10:08 AM (#573126 - in reply to #573071) Subject: Re: favorite glider and why?
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sworrall - 7/21/2012 7:30 PM
learntoswim,
I can make a Manta belly roll easily.
no you can't! manta's do not have belly roll Steve.. what do you consider belly roll? belly roll to me is this..
say your standing looking down at a river or lake and all of a sudden a you see the flash of a white belly.. that's belly roll when the bait rolls to the side and show it's belly.. a manta does not roll to it's side ever!! the shape and tail stop that from happening.. you can take a piece of glow tape or even paint the whole belly of a manta with glow in the dark paint,charge it up and go out at dark and throw it around.. you will never see the glow of the belly.. trust me i have a glow belly manta..
favorite glider and why?
I can make a hellhound dance all over the place, not just a wtd....try it before you call someone out!