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| This may be a stupid question.....I am completely new to muskie fishing. What is the black/orange color combo supposed to mimic? I know it must work because it's offered in almost every lure I've looked at. I just don't know what that combo represents in nature. Maybe it's nothing and muskie anglers from days gone by figured out for some reason that muskies responded to that particular combo?? |
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| That color combo, it's not to replicate anything in nature, other than to simply just offer contrast. |
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| not a stupid question, it really doesn't mimic any sort of natural prey by any means. just a color combo that produces, like chartreuse or pink...they certainly dont mimic anything but they catch fish |
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| Thanks! That makes sense. I live in southern Illinois, and I knew it didn't mimic anything we have down here. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | do a search on reflective/refractive color sometime. it's a good study and can give you some ideas depending on what water, light conditions you are fishing. |
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| when everybody on the lake is throwing blk/orange.. what do you think the fish are going to bite on? same with dcg's, dawgs, etc etc. sled is correct though.. throws alot of contrast at em that most other colors won't. |
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Location: Maine Township, MN | Sled, i'm very interested in researching reflective/refractive color. I tried searching this site and nothing comes up. Do you have a link to get a guy started? Thanks. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i want to say there was an article maybe in muskyhunter magazine but it would have been quite awhile ago. i remember having a lot of discussion about it when we used to chat on muskyfix.com which is no longer in existence. i'm a printer and so we spend a lot of time with color technology so it's always been a subject that i've been a fan of. it's why all of my topwater baits are black as an example and why i'd pick dark water on bluebird days and clear on either low light or night-fishing.
availability of light ... then reflection and refraction/absorption for selection criteria.
i want to say that OFM even did some work?? can't remember, but maybe start a thread and call it color/reflection/refraction and let's see if it gets legs and gets some folks to come out of the woodwork and bring either older threads, thoughts etc... back to the surface. it's a great discussion and one that maybe is good timing to come out again for people who may not have it on their mind.
i still love that picture of your big fish in the net btw! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Quite a bit of work, actually. Understanding color under water demands understanding of what happens to light when it enters the underwater world, variables like particulate/turbidity, the angle at which the sunlight strikes the surface of the water seasonally and daily, understanding white light: which colors have the longest wavelength and shortest and what that means, understanding compound colors...up to knowing how the bait was painted and if compound colors are use, how the prime colors were mixed. Understanding what colors muskies can see and when they can see them is also important; need to look at the fishes eyes for better understanding.
Favorite subject of mine. |
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| Here are a few links that I've found to be educational. Far from complete or definitive, but a start.
http://www.forciersguideservice.com/pages/posts/color-concepts14.ph...
http://www.esoxhunter.com/ColorsInWater.php
http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/
I have used the color wheel/contrast concept to come up with custom lure color ideas. Another edge to consider.
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| sworrall - 7/9/2012 12:43 PM
Quite a bit of work, actually. Understanding color under water demands understanding of what happens to light when it enters the underwater world, variables like particulate/turbidity, the angle at which the sunlight strikes the surface of the water seasonally and daily, understanding white light: which colors have the longest wavelength and shortest and what that means, understanding compound colors...up to knowing how the bait was painted and if compound colors are use, how the prime colors were mixed. Understanding what colors muskies can see and when they can see them is also important; need to look at the fishes eyes for better understanding.
Favorite subject of mine.
Is any of this published/documented for the public? I'd be interested in learning. |
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Location: syracuse indiana | black and orange has been a mainstay color for a ton of years, goes way back in the musky world |
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Location: Maine Township, MN | Thanks, Sled. Good stuff. I'll get a thread together here. My fav pic too! |
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| The answer to that question is really quite simple.....you see there are no more orange and black baitfish because the muskies already ate them all! |
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| I don't understand why it works, but on the chain our cottage is on, that is a very good combination. The water is very stained with tannin, and I have wondered if that has anything to do with it. |
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Black/Orange??