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| http://www.startribune.com/local/west/161162535.html?page=2&c=y
These #*^@ fisherman catch a whole bunch and then throw them back.
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Maybe we should vote in those who want to regulate our lives,,............ NOT!!
It's sad when people don't know what Freedom really is!
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Fascism is alive and well in some places.
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Location: MN | City council member on the lake ... say no more! |
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Location: MN | I want to thank them for their arrogance. Now that it has made the press, Archie will have many more visitors coming to "their" little lake to fish. I look forward to sitting in front of the council persons dock catching her fish on her private lake. |
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Location: one foot over the line | I am speechless....I may have to make a pilgrimage, with my boat, to a small 99 acre lake (that I've recently heard about) full of bass and bring with me a pallet of Dr. Pepper!!!!!!! |
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| Only in MN. |
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Location: Medford, WI | Any idea where you're able to donate/contribute $$$? This is something that I would feel very good about giving some money towards. Please let myself and others know if there's an online fund.
Thanks for sharing, Jake
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| We have a similar problem at a small lake in Ontario 5 min from my house. Trying to restrIct or deny access. Some wealthy landowners like to think they own the water too. This kind of stuff drives me crazy. Pure greed.
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Location: In a shack in the woods | What a bunch of B.S.. they should just leave the old man alone. I can't believe catch and releasing the sunnies is a valid argument to try and shut the launch down. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | I think I have tracked down Mary Leizinger, who is mentioned in the article. I'll see if there's a way to contribute to Archie's permit fee and let you guys know. |
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Location: Hudson, WI | So basically, the boats that the property owner's run on the lake DON'T erode the shoreline at all, and the general public is releasing too many of their fish. I could see how that would pass as logic in Minnesota. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Homer - 7/3/2012 8:37 AM
Only in MN.
No Homer, I'm afraid this sort of thing is happening all over America these days.... |
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| Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:39 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 8:37 AM
Only in MN.
No Homer, I'm afraid this sort of thing is happening all over America these days....
Please, do a search under MN on this site and you will see countless politcal issues. H |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Medford Fisher - 7/3/2012 9:07 AM
Any idea where you're able to donate/contribute $$$? This is something that I would feel very good about giving some money towards. Please let myself and others know if there's an online fund.
Thanks for sharing, Jake
Posted in the reader comments on that article....
knewbetterJul. 3, 12 9:38 AM
The family is grateful for the moral support. For those wishing to make donations, they can cen sent to Archie's guardian and conservator, Sue Leizinger, 16010 Excelsior Blvd, Minnetonka, MN 55345-5408 Bless you all, Mary Leizinger |
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| Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H |
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Location: Maine Township, MN | I'd like to either see them get the permit and back to business as usual or if that doesn't go through, put in a public access and let that backfire in the lakeshore owners faces! |
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| Homer this thread isn't about the politics in this country, it's about a ridiculous closing of a landing by some property owners. Leave it at that. |
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Location: Milwaukee, WI | Few things annoy me more than entitled property owners who think that they are "Lake Owners". |
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Location: McGuire AFB, NJ | Archie for President!
What a load of crap! I can't believe some people.....
Hopefully he'll get his launch back soon! |
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| Riverrat - 7/3/2012 10:59 AM
Homer this thread isn't about the politics in this country, it's about a ridiculous closing of a landing by some property owners. Leave it at that.
I did not bring up politics, just responded, so perhaps you should mind you own, the meddling type of behavior is what the poor ramp owner is dealing with. Why bring the same type of attitude here? H |
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Location: one foot over the line | Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H |
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| beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:32 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H How about launching my boat????????
When were you stopped on a public launch during posted hours? I have had issues with closed launches that are private, but I respect an American's right to own land. You could say fishing is over regulated, how many new rules and size limits do we have? H
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Location: one foot over the line | Homer - 7/3/2012 11:40 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:32 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H How about launching my boat????????
When were you stopped on a public launch during posted hours? I have had issues with closed launches that are private, but I respect an American's right to own land. H
PUBLIC launch and POSTED hours. enough said. |
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| beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:45 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 11:40 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:32 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H How about launching my boat????????
When were you stopped on a public launch during posted hours? I have had issues with closed launches that are private, but I respect an American's right to own land. H
PUBLIC launch and POSTED hours. enough said.
Lets get rid of size limits and bag limits, enough said. |
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Location: one foot over the line | Homer - 7/3/2012 11:46 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:45 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 11:40 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:32 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H How about launching my boat????????
When were you stopped on a public launch during posted hours? I have had issues with closed launches that are private, but I respect an American's right to own land. H
PUBLIC launch and POSTED hours. enough said.
Lets get rid of size limits and bag limits, enough said.
Yeah, and use my horse and buggy to launch my birch-bark canoe. |
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| beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:54 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 11:46 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:45 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 11:40 AM
beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 11:32 AM
Homer - 7/3/2012 10:52 AM
Top H2O - 7/3/2012 10:48 AM
I think personal liberties/freedoms are at risk everywhere in this country these days,... not just Mn.
I don't agree, I am not sure we have ever been more free. The Patriot Act is scary, but the court upheld the 2nd not too long ago for example. Gun ownership is at an all time high. What are you not able to do now that you could do 10 years ago? H How about launching my boat????????
When were you stopped on a public launch during posted hours? I have had issues with closed launches that are private, but I respect an American's right to own land. H
PUBLIC launch and POSTED hours. enough said.
Lets get rid of size limits and bag limits, enough said.
Yeah, and use my horse and buggy to launch my birch-bark canoe.
Typical your special interest groups "regulations" make sense and every other group is infringing on your rights with their special "regulations" classic. LOL. H |
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Location: one foot over the line | regulations and access denial are two totally different conversations. Back on topic, I can't help but feel bad for Archie who has temporarily lost such a sacred thing because of the over-reaching attitude of a few. My guess/hope is that this will come to a quick conclusion and with some help from all of us who truely care about these kind of issues, the correct outcome will be reached. |
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| beerforthemuskygods - 7/3/2012 12:09 PM
regulations and access denial are two totally different conversations. Back on topic, I can't help but feel bad for Archie who has temporarily lost such a sacred thing because of the over-reaching attitude of a few. My guess/hope is that this will come to a quick conclusion and with some help from all of us who truely care about these kind of issues, the correct outcome will be reached.
It would seem getting a permit will put things in order. Actually regulations are denial, so is your point of view. H |
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| Homer likes to troll....on the net |
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Location: one foot over the line | WOW! good luck.... |
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Location: one foot over the line | bturg - 7/3/2012 12:12 PM
Homer likes to troll....on the net
I guess, thank goodness I shook the hooks and got back in the water.... |
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| bturg - 7/3/2012 12:12 PM
Homer likes to troll....on the net
With wi-fi I can do both, while having a new born strapped to the seat:-) |
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Location: Eagan, MN | Excuse me for being on topic, but I just wanted to post the response that I got regarding donations. I saw that it was posted above but it might not have been noticed before all of this terrific discussion got started.
From Mary Leizinger:
"Not a problem Phil. Thank you so much for your support. Fishermen have been AMAZING! Any donation can be sent to Archie’s guardian and conservator,
Sue Leizinger
16010 Excelsior Blvd.
Minnetonka, MN 55345-5408.
Thank you again and God Bless!" |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Anyone know how to get the the "launch"? I'd like to stop by and drop of a 24 pack of Dr. Pepper and a "donation". Maybe bring my son and catch some of those sunnies. |
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Location: Victoria,MN | FlyfishMN - 7/3/2012 3:26 PM
Anyone know how to get the the "launch"? I'd like to stop by and drop of a 24 pack of Dr. Pepper and a "donation". Maybe bring my son and catch some of those sunnies.
The launch is on Rolling Acres Rd. , just north of the bike trail that crosses the road.
This is such a dirty manuever by a few of the elitist that live on Schutz Lake.
I think today I willl stop by and make my donation today. I will also be sending Ms. Roden a letter, heck maybe even a phone call today on this Independence Day telling her where she can stick her CUP!
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Location: Victoria,MN | And so they were freightened in advance by my threats...The Victoria City Council voted 4-0 last night to grant Archie his conditional use permit!
I'm sure public out cry had everything to do with it.
The thing that sucks is, Archies family had to cough up the cash. Do you think Archie makes $1500.00 a year in donations including his cans of Dr. Pepper?
Edited by T-Bone 7/4/2012 8:06 AM
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Location: Eagan, MN | This is only the first step, the permit hasn't been issued yet. In addition to the permit fee they are also requiring new signs, dock improvemens, trash collection, etc, which will all add to the cost of operation. Hoping everyone will drop a few bucks in the mail if they are so inclined.
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/161301395.html
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Location: Victoria,MN | Ahh, so it helps to read the full article! |
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| I say we start an annual Archie sunfish tournament on the lake and donate the $$$ to Archie.... All Catch and Release of course. Who's in????? |
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Location: Iowa | Would he still need the permit if he didn't charge? I'm sure everyone who uses it would give a free will donation everytime. I'm not into the fine print in laws though. Makes me want to go try the bass fishing up there now. |
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| Nice work Tom! Its good to have a "local" on Archie's side. I plan on swinging by this weekend and dropping off a donation myself.... |
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Location: MN | I go to plenty of public accesses around the state - and most do not have trash collection. Anyone know why they are requiring it here? Maybe a city or county thing? |
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| This really ticks me off. Here you have a guy with a disability who is trying to make a buck and occupy his time, not really making much money off of running a little fishing launch, and then all of a sudden it's a problem? What a bunch of crap! What happened to allowing people to live out thier American dream? This ment the world to this guy, and hopfully everything will get work out and he will be able to continue to do what he loves. God Bless him. |
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| Last night the City of Victoria Council voted to give Archie Leizinger a permit to reopen his launch and they additionally voted to refund the $1500 permit application fee. While the family will have expenses for complying with the conditions of the permit, we would like to refund donations to anyone who made one and would like their money back. Refund requests can be mailed to Sue Leizinger at 16010 Excelsior Blvd, Minnetonka, MN 55345-5408. The family is immensely grateful for all the friendship and support the fishing community has shown us. We expect to have the launch ready to reopen in a couple of weeks and hope to see each of you at the lake in the future.
Mary Leizinger
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/161872495.html
Edited by MaryLeizinger 7/10/2012 8:42 AM
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| <p>The family of Archie Leizinger is immensely grateful for all the support we have received in our efforts to reopen Archie's Landing. While we were optomistic that Archie would be granted a permit, we cound not anticipate the ultimate results of the City Council action last night. The council unanimously voted to grant the permit and they waived the permit application fees. As a result, while we will have some expenses to meet the conditions for the permit, the family will refund any donations received if requested to do so. Please send refund requests to Sue Leizinger, 16010 Excelsior Blvd, Minnetonka, MN 55345-5408. We thank you all and hope to see you fishing at Schutz Lake when we reopen the launch in a couple of weeks.</p><p>Mary Leiznger</p> |
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So wrong in so many ways