Thermocline?
Wissota Musky
Posted 6/30/2012 6:56 PM (#568474)
Subject: Thermocline?




Could someone please explain thermocline and how it relates to fishing? When does it happen on a lake?
muskellunged
Posted 6/30/2012 7:13 PM (#568477 - in reply to #568474)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?





Location: Illinois

FRom wikipedia/thermocline:

 

Thermoclines can also be observed in lakes. In colder climates, this leads to a phenomenon called stratification. During the summer, warm water, which is less dense, will sit on top of colder, denser deeper water, with a thermocline separating them. The warm layer is called the epilimnion and the cold layer is called the hypolimnion. Because the warm water is exposed to the sun during the day, a stable system exists, and very little mixing of warm water and cold water occurs, particularly in calm weather.

One result of this stability is that as the summer wears on, there is less and less oxygen below the thermocline, as the water below the thermocline never circulates to the surface, and organisms in the water deplete the available oxygen. As winter approaches, the temperature of the surface water will drop as nighttime cooling dominates heat transfer. A point is reached where the density of the cooling surface water becomes greater than the density of the deep water, and overturning begins as the dense surface water moves down under the influence of gravity. This process is aided by wind or any other process (currents for example) that agitates the water. This effect also occurs in Arctic and Antarctic waters, bringing water to the surface which, although low in oxygen, is higher in nutrients than the original surface water. This enriching of surface nutrients may produce blooms of phytoplankton, making these areas productive.

As the temperature continues to drop, the water on the surface may get cold enough to freeze and the lake/ocean begins to ice over. A new thermocline develops where the densest water (4 °C) sinks to the bottom, and the less dense water (water that is approaching the freezing point) rises to the top. Once this new stratification establishes itself, it lasts until the water warms enough for the 'spring turnover,' which occurs after the ice melts and the surface water temperature rises to 4 °C.

Here are some previous threads discussioning thermocline I found using the "search" feature:

 

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=35914&posts=6&highlight=thermocline&highlightmode=1#M264722

 

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5864&posts=9&highlight=thermocline&highlightmode=1#M41029



Edited by muskellunged 6/30/2012 7:30 PM
Wissota Musky
Posted 6/30/2012 7:35 PM (#568483 - in reply to #568474)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?




Very interesting! Thankyou
Shep
Posted 7/2/2012 12:04 PM (#568656 - in reply to #568483)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?





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Search out Howie Meyer and get him talking about the Thermal Refuge. Bring plenty of refreshments, because he has a lot of great info on this subject.
jlong
Posted 7/2/2012 12:21 PM (#568666 - in reply to #568656)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?





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Location: Black Creek, WI

Thermal Refuge.  I like that.
curleytail
Posted 7/2/2012 1:17 PM (#568672 - in reply to #568474)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?




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Location: Hayward, WI
Just to add my 2 cents relating what the thermocline means to me in fishing. When I see the thermocline develop on my Lowrance, I typically see fish transition out to the deepest of the weedlines and even farther out towards deeper water. Baits need to start being fished deeper in the water column also, and I actually start catching more fish. My guess is the higher water temps increase metabolism and the fish plain NEED to eat more. Lots of guys like cooler water, but the warm water period is one of my more productive times of year.

To add to the above, I don't believe you'll see Wissota develop a thermocline. The water is always being moved through the system and mixed, and doesn't really seem to stratify. Once the water got really warm out there - into the upper 70s and low 80's I never caught much of anything. Casting bucktails and topwater wasn't productive for me. I think trolling the river channels or maybe even working deep breaks with crankbaits or bulldawgs could pay off, but I never tried it that much.

Tucker
Shep
Posted 7/2/2012 2:40 PM (#568696 - in reply to #568666)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?





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jlong - 7/2/2012 12:21 PM


Thermal Refuge.  I like that.


Jomusky and I listened to Howie for about 3 hours at the hotel one night of the Milwaukee Expo about 6 or 7 years ago. Great info from a master on the Thermal Refuge, as he calls it.
Wissota Musky
Posted 7/2/2012 4:09 PM (#568727 - in reply to #568474)
Subject: Re: Thermocline?




Thanks for the tip Tucker, Its always hard for me to catch a fish on Wissota anyway. I will try the deep breaks next time I go.
Josh