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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Well I was going to fix this over the winter and never got to it. Decided that today was the day. Any tips or tricks from anyone that may have done this before. Im thinking I will have to cut into the stringers and the boxes on each side in order to get all the old wood back out, then when the new wood is in I will glass in the stringer again. is this the right way to do it?
Also there was a caulk or glue of some kind inbetween the upper and lower parts of the hull. What should I use here when I put it back on?
Any help is great.
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Location: Green Bay, WI | There are literally about 500 videos on YouTube about this very thing. I've even seen a three or four part video "series" from people showing exactly how to do this. I am not a fiberglass guy myself, so I cannot help you--other than to suggest that you head over there and search it out. It will be time well-spent...
TB
Edit: Entering the search string "fiberglass transom rebuild" got me 170 results. Lots of interesting-looking stuff in there as well.
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| As my grandmother would say....."uffff-dah!"
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Yea...that will keep him busy for a while. Certainly keep a guy out of the bars!
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| I think it would send me TO the bars. Hey, good luck on the project and make sure you post some photos when done. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Captain - 5/21/2012 2:01 PM
I think it would send me TO the bars. Hey, good luck on the project and make sure you post some photos when done.
I didn't say it wouldn't drive him to drink, just that he wouldn't do it in the tavern...lol.
That's quite a project!
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| Ugghhhh yuck. How do you eat an elephant? A little bit at a time.
Looks to be many hours of work but you'll sure appreciate it when it's done.
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Location: 31 | YIKES! |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Jerry Newman - 5/21/2012 9:09 PM
YIKES!
That Pultrusion stuff is looking pretty good right about now, eh Jerry?
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Well heres some pics of todays progress. put about 4 hours of work into it today. I have 99% of the old wood out. I will add Pics of my progress. If anyone has questions of any comments or tips please let the fly.
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Location: Elgin, IL | I'll give you alot of credit John, that's alot more than I would have handled....that transom looked like The Orca in the movie Jaws, just before it sank.
But now it looks like you've got a handle on it. Very cool. Good luck with it, that's a heckuva project there. And keep us posted.  |
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| Nice start. What kind of plywood are you using? Im assuming marine grade? I have heard of this stuff that guys use in fish houses and RVs, but cant recall the name. Supposed to be real good.
That is an ambitious project and sure will be rewarding when you are done. |
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Location: 31 | tcbetka - 5/21/2012 9:54 PM
Jerry Newman - 5/21/2012 9:09 PM
YIKES!
That Pultrusion stuff is looking pretty good right about now, eh Jerry?
To say the least Tom! I agree that it is an ambitious project that most would not even consider doing, me included.
It actually brings back a mini nightmare of my 1989 trip to Lake of the Woods where I lost about a 2x2' chunk of the gelcoat and fiberglass about two weeks into a 5 week trip. We had to lift the front of the boat with a borrowed end loader, grind down the edges of the gelcoat and apply a bunch of those fiberglass repair kits to the damaged area to keep fishing.
It worked so well that I was able to continue fishing the rest of the year from that a boat with broken stringers, including another four-week Lake of the Woods outing the month of September. That fiberglass repair deal probably caused me to switch over to an aluminum hull in 1990! 
I'm looking forward to watching the progress of this project, please keep us updated John
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | The whole time Im working on this thing all I can thinks is "why the hell would they use wood in here!!??" Im pretty sure that my next boat will be an aluminum one. I can weld that!!!
Worked about an hour and a half tonight after work. Got all the old wood off the transom and ground it down to glass again. Just need to prep the surronding areas and make a template for the new wood. Then I get to decide what resin and glass to use. Seems to be a million choices. not looking to break the bank here but also need it to work!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | All boats from that era that carry any HP at all used a wood transom core, including aluminum boats. If the transom was sealed properly, it would last about forever. It's loose transom boats, poor installations, and/or end users drilling holes and not sealing them that usually cause the issues.
The composites that have proved out and are still in use hit the scene pretty recently in most fishing boats. |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | yea, i noticed when I bought the boat about 6 years ago that there were a ton of holes drilled in the back. Maybe for wave wackers? THey were all plugged with silicone or screws and silicone but obviously water got to the wood somehow. oh well this is a learning experience to say the least.
lesson 1. Grinding fiberlass is a mess and the dust is insanely itchy
2. were a respirator
3. saftey glasses do nothing with all the dust in the air, gonna borrow a ventilated helmet for grinding from work to fisnish the job. Fiberglass in the eyes = no fun!!!
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | JJ.
Stay the course,... I work with fiberglass everyday.
It really isn't that hard to work with,.... Get it as Smooth as possible,.. it will eliminate a lot of grinding. use about 3 layers of 10 oz. woven roving over your New wood and 3-4 layers of 1.5 oz. fiberglass "chopped strand mat" over that and 1 layer of surface vale as your last layer, followed up with a couple coats of resin and 2 coats of "colored" gel coat. that should do it, and make it last for 100yrs. (unless you drill holes into it.)
If you were in the Cities I would help you out,.... but I can't see driving to cheese land for fiberglass work.
You have most of the harder work done.... Keep Going and post pics of your progress.
Jerome
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Heres a few more pics of the progress. Ive got they new plywood cut, just gotta order all the epoxy and fiberglass.
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| How thick is that plywood? |
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Location: New Hope MN | This is cool. Keep posting updates. I know this will be me in 5yrs  |
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Location: Ontario | You must love that boat 
Great job! |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Sorry, been a while since I updated. Kinda at a stand still right now waiting on supplies to show up. The plywood I used was .75 mdo 2 pieces to make up 1.5 inches. The wood that was in there was about 1.25 inches, actually more like 1 inch of wood and a quarter inch of fiberglass. .125 inbetween the 2 sheets and an .125 outer skin. Figured since I test fit it with 1.5 inches of wood that would be better.
Love the boat? Well it gets me on the water and its paid for. Do I want something newer and bigger? YES! but this is what I can afford right now.
I will update again once all the epoxy and glass show up. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | AWESOME job so far man...strong work. Can't wait to see more pictures, especially of the day it's back on the water. A question though--did you ever consider something like Star Board for the new transom?
http://www.customcreativeplastics.com/spgm.cfm?dpt=H&srch=30&item=S...
I know it's more expensive than plywood, but I'm told it's virtually indestructible. I've not worked with it myself, but saw it used in some fiberglass boats being built in Florida.
By the way...you can check out the forum at TheHullTruth.com for lots of similar projects done by guys, many of whom who've used Star Board for their transom rebuild.
Just a thought anyway--sorry I didn't mention it before.
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Well ive got all the holes in the transom filled with epoxy. Got the 2 sheets of wood glued together. Ill get some pics up of it all once ive got it clamped into the hull and the epoxy is drying. |
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Location: Tennessee | Good work so far, I don't know of a boat I love that much! |
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| You can call me if you want: 952-288-3989
I did this about 8 years ago to a 1969 19' Starcraft.
I can help you a lot with the wood, techniques I used, things I invented, etc. I'm a chemist. So working with Polyesters, Epoxies, and heat is what I do.
If you are not using good wood, I can help you fix up what you are using so it's bullet proof. I used all Douglas Fir in my boat. 5 stringers, floor, and transome was like $700!!! And that was back in 2002!! So I understand why you didn' go that way. But I can help you make that composite material you have better.
Call me man. I want to help ya.
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Well ive been working on it every night after work and all weekend. Im done with the glass work. Ready to pop rivet it back together and start putting everything back in place. Been alot of work and itching but its done!! At least to my standards its done. Im sure there are others out there that can say "I would have done this or that" but I was on a budgest and used the materials I could to keep it under budget. All said and done Im into it for about $500. Here are the latest pics I have.
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| As far as I would know that looks very good. Im sure its been a rewarding project for you. I have never done something like that, it would scare the crap out of me and overwhelm me in like 25 minutes so hats off to you!
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | All done and ready for the water. hope it all stays together tomorrow morning!!! |
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Location: 31 | I hope the next photo we see is you holding a muskie in front of the fomer transom can of woms.
Goodluck!
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Hit the water at 3am this morning. Had no issues!!!! Did manage to put one in the boat. A 38.5 with a messed up upper lip. The fish was really beat up. Big scars and wounds.
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Location: New Hope MN | One of the coolest threads ever! Great job! |
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