Best Topwater Lure
CarlZeis13
Posted 5/8/2012 12:18 AM (#558454)
Subject: Best Topwater Lure




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Hey all!

So I am just getting into hunting the musk and am trying to best gear up. As a result I am wondering what the best overall topwater lure is. Thanks for the info!

CZ
Medinah13
Posted 5/8/2012 1:07 AM (#558455 - in reply to #558454)
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PACEMAKER
Empire
Posted 5/8/2012 5:36 AM (#558459 - in reply to #558454)
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WHOPPER PLOPPER
Esox-Hunter
Posted 5/8/2012 5:52 AM (#558460 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: South East Wisconsin
Pacemaker for me.
little one
Posted 5/8/2012 6:04 AM (#558462 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: S.Wisconsin
For me if I had to say one....chopper. I willl say that anything made by Joel Wick rocks and my Jinkerson baits are nice as well. A walk the dog bait is a must have as well so something like a one eyed willey or a weagle and throw a fishstick by Lee in there as well. Pacemaker is a nice bait as well. Sory I just cant pick one....they all have a time and place
muskymartin67
Posted 5/8/2012 6:37 AM (#558464 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Delavan, WI
if i could only pick one it would be a pre roi top raider in a dark color

Edited by muskymartin67 5/8/2012 6:39 AM
Pal
Posted 5/8/2012 7:07 AM (#558465 - in reply to #558464)
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Location: Twin Cities, MN
Lee's Water Chopper if I could only pick one. Thankfully, I do not so I also have a couple nice Nimmers and Joel Wick front thumpers to rely on.
jackson
Posted 5/8/2012 7:32 AM (#558467 - in reply to #558454)
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i have caught more fish on a hawg wobbler than any other topwater. Its slow to fish, quite boring but for some reason on calm nights this lure produces.
Jobu
Posted 5/8/2012 7:44 AM (#558470 - in reply to #558454)
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Hands down----the best topwater of all time----the old Musky Mania Tackle Dying Fish-----they jusy don't make 'em like that anymore. In calm conditions---the Mouldy Hawg Wobbler------in rough water-----anything with a prop on it. Good luck to ya---Jobu
rich
Posted 5/8/2012 7:54 AM (#558473 - in reply to #558454)
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Weagle
AFChief
Posted 5/8/2012 7:59 AM (#558475 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: So. Illinois
Topraider, Pacemaker and Whopper Plopper
The Swan
Posted 5/8/2012 8:02 AM (#558476 - in reply to #558454)
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If I recall the statistics, the Topraider has caught more 50" fish than any other surface lure. You can check on this at the Jackson Lures website, where they publish the list compiled by Muskies, Inc. If you are just starting with this pursuit, before you spend a lot of money on things that might not help, I would advise you to buy a copy of Heiting and Saric's book on Musky Hunting. It explains the various types of lures; and gives names. The book is not a Bible, but it is a good source book. Good luck.
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/8/2012 8:02 AM (#558477 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
Top Raider #1, Weagle #2, Pacemaker #3, Raw Roasting Chicken #4
dbltrbl
Posted 5/8/2012 8:09 AM (#558478 - in reply to #558477)
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did anyone mention topraiders? i will... TOPRAIDER!!
sworrall
Posted 5/8/2012 8:21 AM (#558480 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Weagle
flyshopfool
Posted 5/8/2012 8:35 AM (#558484 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Central WI
River fishing, I have had most luck on a Zara Spook. Slow walk the dog style seems best for me.
firstsixfeet
Posted 5/8/2012 9:32 AM (#558502 - in reply to #558454)
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Almost any identification of "BEST" is open to conflict and argument, even in the boat with ONE angler.

Warm, muggy, dark, night, and fairly calm, it would be hard for me to beat a Hawg Wobbler.
Pretty good chop on the water is going to bring out my Lee's Chopper, it stays on top and keeps its cadence.
A tuned up tallywhacker is still an excellent bait, and might pull the trigger on fish that have heard too much top raider.
Calm, with emergent weed of some type, have to go with my secret lure, and have the patience to go slow.
Riffles on the water and smart fish, hard to beat a hi fin scamper tail, stupid lure, and you have to control you pace
shallow dark water, dark frontal day or intermittent rain, holy buckets, get out the creeper and slosh it up...

Some lures I throw, I would never have anybody else throw in my boat, even experienced guys, they just wouldn't be tuned in to the bait, and some lures take a while before they "train" the angler

and still you have the problem that in any water there is generally going to be a hot lure, and that in some lakes and at some times of year a lure can get red hot and it seems like you have fish out there volunteering. but you don't always find that lure or that bite, so just get good with a few, and confident, and try and stick with a "good" surface bait and you will probably do better than average, and it does get to be a percentage game

CiscoKid
Posted 5/8/2012 11:56 AM (#558532 - in reply to #558502)
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
firstsixfeet - 5/8/2012 9:32 AM

Almost any identification of "BEST" is open to conflict and argument, even in the boat with ONE angler.

Warm, muggy, dark, night, and fairly calm, it would be hard for me to beat a Hawg Wobbler.
Pretty good chop on the water is going to bring out my Lee's Chopper, it stays on top and keeps its cadence.
A tuned up tallywhacker is still an excellent bait, and might pull the trigger on fish that have heard too much top raider.
Calm, with emergent weed of some type, have to go with my secret lure, and have the patience to go slow.
Riffles on the water and smart fish, hard to beat a hi fin scamper tail, stupid lure, and you have to control you pace
shallow dark water, dark frontal day or intermittent rain, holy buckets, get out the creeper and slosh it up...

Some lures I throw, I would never have anybody else throw in my boat, even experienced guys, they just wouldn't be tuned in to the bait, and some lures take a while before they "train" the angler

and still you have the problem that in any water there is generally going to be a hot lure, and that in some lakes and at some times of year a lure can get red hot and it seems like you have fish out there volunteering. but you don't always find that lure or that bite, so just get good with a few, and confident, and try and stick with a "good" surface bait and you will probably do better than average, and it does get to be a percentage game



Right on.

That said Hawg Wobbler on calm, cold front type of days. Fish Stick HD brings them out like no other, and last year I fell in love with the Tidal wave for a prop type bait. I also like the Recon from H2O Tackle for another WTD option.

No offense to the Weagle users, but in my boat a weagle fished side by side with the Fish Stick HD was no comparison. The Fish Stick HD caught more fish by a large margin, and is much more versatile (can be fished in a lot rougher water). Perhaps it was the user of the lure though.

You can't have just one topwater for all conditions.
muskiehunter2
Posted 5/8/2012 12:18 PM (#558538 - in reply to #558454)
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pacemaker for me!
Grass
Posted 5/8/2012 12:25 PM (#558540 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Seymour, WI
Hawg Wobbler and Pacemaker have been the best for me. I like the Top Walker too, but the bait can have line twist issues.
eric001
Posted 5/8/2012 1:03 PM (#558545 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: c.wis
hands down black riverbait co's. Freak, in a close second a topper stopper style lure. but the ticking sound that freak makes is unbeatable to trigger fish, to go along with the amount of water they move and sound these lures produce- last year 12 fish over 40" were boated because of one freak! pressured water, and still produces. im throwing freaks now and finding active fish. oddly enough its a great search bait too because you cannot fish it wrong. wtih the tunable blades you can customize the sound you want to match the mood of the fish, from super loud hollow popping and splashing, to subtle splashing and less noise. plus on the pause the way the lure hangs in the water the fish cant mis hooks- compared to other baits I hooked up and sealed the deal 90% of the time where as the others at best 60%
BNelson
Posted 5/8/2012 1:04 PM (#558546 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Contrarian Island
hard to beat a good running/sounding top raider...if i had to pick one tho that I would not be without it would be a Chopper... if you are buying from scratch you'll want to get at least 1 from each category ..
i.e, side to side topwater get a fish stick/weagle/etc
inline prop, get a chopper, topraider etc.
slow moving wobblers, get a hawg wobbler or something similiar
metallic sounding, get a rough runner, bs willy globe etc
creeper style, get a bs willy or something similiar...
you'll be set! good luck.
Mullhead
Posted 5/8/2012 1:17 PM (#558550 - in reply to #558546)
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Location: VA
Nimmer Prop Dog Plus. Frog
firstsixfeet
Posted 5/8/2012 1:24 PM (#558552 - in reply to #558546)
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BNelson - 5/8/2012 1:04 PM

hard to beat a good running/sounding top raider...


My problem has been finding a good running/sounding top raider. I have quit throwing mine, but I snatch my friend's whenever I can, and it is slowly getting torn apart by the fish caught on it. I have owned 4 and never found one that produces like his.
BNelson
Posted 5/8/2012 1:45 PM (#558558 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Contrarian Island
buy 5 and take the 4 back that don't sound good! ; )
Hunter4
Posted 5/8/2012 4:00 PM (#558579 - in reply to #558454)
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HawgWobbler and a Viper. I've caught more fish on those two surface lures than anything else.
saint1
Posted 5/8/2012 4:05 PM (#558580 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Neenah, WI
TOPRAIDER !!!!!!!!!!


SAINT
chris riebe
Posted 5/8/2012 5:54 PM (#558589 - in reply to #558454)
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If you want to know which baits are the best built American Hardwood Lures are handsdown the most durable
allegheny river kid
Posted 5/8/2012 6:03 PM (#558591 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Sw Pennsylvania
Topraider
Big W
Posted 5/8/2012 6:43 PM (#558599 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: North Fork, Flambeau River
Hawg Wobbler is the champ!
pamuskyhunter
Posted 5/8/2012 7:25 PM (#558606 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: big cove tannery pa
In the river i fish bass size topwaters. booyah 1/2 oz buzzbait and a zara spook. Big ones seem to like the buzzbaits...
muskymaniac4ever
Posted 5/8/2012 8:21 PM (#558618 - in reply to #558454)
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My go to topwater would easily be the PaceMaker,
JKahler
Posted 5/9/2012 12:07 AM (#558657 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: WI
Pacemaker is my fav. Also like a Chopper, Headbanger, and a globe of some kind. I've noticed the fish will sometimes get keyed in on one type of lure. Best to try a few different types. Weagle is my fav walk the dog lure.

I don't like Topraiders, never caught a fish on one. I do like the Suick Nightwalker though which has a similar tail design.
RIVER MUSKY
Posted 5/9/2012 4:29 AM (#558665 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: martinsburg wv
black weagle
Jeremy
Posted 5/9/2012 8:35 AM (#558694 - in reply to #558589)
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Location: Minnesota.
chris riebe - 5/8/2012 5:54 PM

If you want to know which baits are the best built American Hardwood Lures are handsdown the most durable


+1 on this. Last year I met Mick (Phil) up on Vermilion and saw his baits he'd made. We were at the same resort and I got to gabbing with him. Never thought I'd own any b/c I'm a cheap bugger.

This spring I bought $350 worth since we had a house/garage fire and got to replace 30 yrs worth of baits. I didn't want to get another 100 random baits, just a bunch that I knew were well done!

Jeremy.
Brad P
Posted 5/9/2012 8:50 AM (#558700 - in reply to #558454)
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My favorite is the Big Mama Dirty B. The Big Mamas haven’t been around as long as some of the other products mentioned here, but they are the best made baits I’ve seen in this category. Love the profile, the colors, and the great pop the custom prop blades have in the water. Tom is also a great guy and will bend over backwards to give you great service.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 5/9/2012 9:39 AM (#558708 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
American Hardwoods go to the web site, Phil makes all of them and he has so many different styles of Top Water Baits and all of them catch Big Fish.

Edited by PIKEMASTER 5/9/2012 9:40 AM
Guest
Posted 5/9/2012 9:55 AM (#558712 - in reply to #558454)
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I would have to say a topper stopper or muskie freak. Had the most success with those last year
thrax_johnson
Posted 5/9/2012 7:48 PM (#558843 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion
If/when conditions are right, nothing beats a hawg wobbler as long as its all black.
MississippiMusky
Posted 6/27/2012 5:25 PM (#567939 - in reply to #558454)
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whopper plopper, top raider, pacemaker
jdsplasher
Posted 6/27/2012 6:43 PM (#567950 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: SE, WI.

First six feet; All headbangers sound good...Hand made and water tested!!!

Headbanger!!!

honkermusky
Posted 6/27/2012 7:08 PM (#567957 - in reply to #558454)
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Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County
8in weagle, large pacemaker and a creeper get my vote
esox1980
Posted 6/27/2012 7:08 PM (#567958 - in reply to #558478)
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Location: Manitowish Waters WI
I'm in love with the salmo turbo jack
rob o
Posted 6/30/2012 7:18 PM (#568479 - in reply to #558454)
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I second american harwood lure for prop style lures.