When do you start burning?
PounderDawg
Posted 5/2/2012 10:09 PM (#557532)
Subject: When do you start burning?




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What temps do you start burning?
eric001
Posted 5/2/2012 10:24 PM (#557537 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





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Location: c.wis
speed is a trigger season long, its just a matter of when and where the fish want to see the fast moving bait. wouldnt it make sense to try one retreive one way the next varried, again, rise repeat. eventually youll figure out what the fish want. heres an ex. your fishing a river with current obviously you need to vary your speed throughout the retrive depending on the presentation your trying to achieve. just the way i look at it
Junkman
Posted 5/3/2012 7:18 AM (#557561 - in reply to #557537)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?




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I used to be locked into all sorts of "rules" including 1. Small and slow early, 2. Burning after June 1rst, 3. Really big stuff after September 1rst...but I am trying to release myself from the prison of static thinking. Just a week ago I watched guys pulling fish on big blades and really huge stuff that I (to be honest) left in my truck. This year, my goal is to use the "conventional wisdom" as a guideline but not as hand-cuffs. As I continue to try to figure this thing out, I see these fish we chase as willing to chase anything or nothing, and without us really knowing why. I guess my advice is to go ahead and try any sort of a darn thing that you want to try and then not remain married to it if it is not working. When I hit my beloved Pewaukee for the opener this Saturday, I won't be burning bucktails as an opening move...but I'll have them along and watch what the other 400 guys are doing and what choices are producing strikes.
esox1980
Posted 5/3/2012 7:32 AM (#557565 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?





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Location: Manitowish Waters WI
The rhythm or reason is your own. I prefer buring when I have an aggressive fish following at the boat or pulling over weeds/shallow structure.
BNelson
Posted 5/3/2012 8:09 AM (#557570 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





Location: Contrarian Island
speed is a trigger at all times of year...I've seen muskies chasing gils shallow going mach 1 early in May in WI and have seen them chasing suckers going full speed in 40 degree temps in November...don't let water temps or the calendar dictate what WE think they want...let the fish tell you....
CiscoKid
Posted 5/3/2012 8:09 AM (#557571 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?





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PounderDawg - 5/2/2012 10:09 PM

What temps do you start burning?


Whenever the fish are willing to chase. Can be as early as the first day you fish. Beat to your own drum beat, and don't worry about the "rules" of what we are suppose to do. There are so many holes in the conventional wisdom thinking that Junkman mentioned that it shouldn't even be considered conventional wisdom!
Reef Hawg
Posted 5/3/2012 8:09 AM (#557572 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?




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Location: north central wisconsin
"What temps do you start burning?"

It isn't so much the temp as the sun angle/cloud cover that has me worried about burning. I apply sunscreen nearly 12 months out of the year now, depending upon the day.

Edited by Reef Hawg 5/3/2012 8:10 AM
Ebenezer
Posted 5/3/2012 8:31 AM (#557577 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?




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I don't worry about temperature. I worry about time. 4:20
ulbian
Posted 5/3/2012 8:42 AM (#557580 - in reply to #557577)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?




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Take a high speed reel and crank that sucker as hard and fast as you can. A muskie can still swim faster than your retrieve.
Reef Hawg
Posted 5/3/2012 5:54 PM (#557713 - in reply to #557580)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?




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Location: north central wisconsin
ulbian - 5/3/2012 8:42 AM

Take a high speed reel and crank that sucker as hard and fast as you can. A muskie can still swim faster than your retrieve.


If I crank hard and fast, is that different than just fast?
sworrall
Posted 5/3/2012 5:57 PM (#557714 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





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learntoswim
Posted 5/3/2012 6:51 PM (#557726 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?


for me burning is just good to search,too many fish are jumping away from the lure.so just for hookup reason i prefer to reel the blades at a normal speed,it's a lot less spectacular but far more effective.
dougj
Posted 5/3/2012 7:50 PM (#557745 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?





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Location: Warroad, Mn

Fish can swim just as fast in cold water as in warm water. Slow in cold water temps is just something someone wrote about years ago. I doubt that the fish read the article.

Doug Johnson

IAJustin
Posted 5/3/2012 8:34 PM (#557761 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?




Posts: 2011


if the original question is when do you fish a bucktail as fast as humanly possible - my answer would be: when you have fish relatively shallow (less than 10 feet deep) often you are "moving" fish but they wont commit. If you want to put "general" water temps: I've found burning becomes extremely effective when the water hits 60+ in spring....fish often continue to eat "burned tails" with cooler water temps in the fall but I have seen diminished results in fall once water is less than 50. There are no absolutes - I love to burn tails! BUT there are definitely days this is not the best technique and in cold water those days are far more frequent.

Edited by IAJustin 5/3/2012 8:49 PM
Herb_b
Posted 5/3/2012 9:39 PM (#557778 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





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Location: Maple Grove, MN
Usually about four hours after eating hot Mexican food.
muskyjim123
Posted 5/3/2012 10:32 PM (#557787 - in reply to #557778)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





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Needed a laugh. Thanks much lmfao. Mexican food lol
Guest
Posted 5/4/2012 2:46 PM (#557911 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?


I always start burning at yesterday's temps. I always quit burning at tomorrow's temps. Never stop.
backdraft
Posted 5/4/2012 3:36 PM (#557914 - in reply to #557561)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?




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Junkman - 5/3/2012 7:18 AM

I used to be locked into all sorts of "rules" including 1. Small and slow early, 2. Burning after June 1rst, 3. Really big stuff after September 1rst...but I am trying to release myself from the prison of static thinking. Just a week ago I watched guys pulling fish on big blades and really huge stuff that I (to be honest) left in my truck. This year, my goal is to use the "conventional wisdom" as a guideline but not as hand-cuffs. As I continue to try to figure this thing out, I see these fish we chase as willing to chase anything or nothing, and without us really knowing why. I guess my advice is to go ahead and try any sort of a darn thing that you want to try and then not remain married to it if it is not working. When I hit my beloved Pewaukee for the opener this Saturday, I won't be burning bucktails as an opening move...but I'll have them along and watch what the other 400 guys are doing and what choices are producing strikes.


LOL! 400 other guys - you got that right!



Edited by backdraft 5/4/2012 3:40 PM
Guest
Posted 5/4/2012 7:59 PM (#557949 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: RE: When do you start burning?


The morning after Thai food.
MuskieMedic
Posted 5/6/2012 8:51 PM (#558252 - in reply to #557532)
Subject: Re: When do you start burning?





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Location: Stevens Point, WI
I try it and have had success in pretty much all conditions all year. I tend to start out burning as my 1st tactic of the day to see if they are hot and hungry and slow down and/or vary speed if they are not.