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| For those of you who own them, in most cases ive gathered that theyre used by a majority of us for smaller blades and jerk baits...
Ive got mine on a big nasty with a power handle on it i love the reel and use it mostly for jerks and spinnerbaits but my question for all of you is how big of a jerk/glider do most of you throw with it weight-wise? I know its obviously not intended for pounders or 12" phantoms or such baits but maybe for heavier 9-10" dive and rise baits that dont pull too hard through the water? Curious as to what size jerks you guys top out at with this reel...
Also might be a dumb questions but lately its been bothering me but with the disengaging level wind do you guys usually just let your line bunch up unevenly or do you cast, pull out enough line to get the level wind lined up properly with the spool and then reel? |
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Location: Madison WI | The biggest bait weight wise that I have used this reel for is either a 7.5 inch soft tail phantom or an 8 inch swimming joe. I have friends that use the Curado DSV for mag dawgs, mainly for the line pickup however I have fears that it will flex the spool too much on either the DSV or the 300E on a hookset which is why I haven't used bigger baits on mine. As far as the line question I normally just leave it be, I can't say I have ever had a backlash because I didn't line it up correctly, normally those are attributed to operator error (wrong spool setting, taking thumb of spool too soon or too late). All in all I love my 300E but I don't over stress it as I have a tendency to break reels and it has its time and place. |
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| muskyhunter24 - 5/1/2012 6:30 PM
I have friends that use the Curado DSV for mag dawgs, mainly for the line pickup however I have fears that it will flex the spool too much on either the DSV or the 300E on a hookset which is why I haven't used bigger baits on mine.
How is the resisting force from a hookset any greater when using larger baits? |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | tswoboda - 5/2/2012 11:27 AM
muskyhunter24 - 5/1/2012 6:30 PM
I have friends that use the Curado DSV for mag dawgs, mainly for the line pickup however I have fears that it will flex the spool too much on either the DSV or the 300E on a hookset which is why I haven't used bigger baits on mine.
How is the resisting force from a hookset any greater when using larger baits?
Ever hear of Sir Isaac Newton?
F = ma
Not that it should be terribly significant but, theoretically speaking anyway, it will take more force to accelerate the lure and thus drive the hooks into the fish's mouth. While I'll admit that this wouldn't necessarily affect the "resistance" of the fish's mouth tissue to hook penetration, it could certainly make a hook set less effective nonetheless--especially if there is any stretch in the line.
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| I never knew there was a proper setting to have the line guide when casting... go figure I have been cast wrong for over 4 years now with my 300's. I always just casted after i finished reeling in, never had an issue with anything doing it like that.
I must have the worlds strongest 300's, seeing how I have thrown pounders, big blades, and trolled perchbaits at 5+mph for years and never had "flex" issues. Is the construction any different that other reels?
Maybe I am the one in the dark here, can some please give me an explaination on why curados carry the stigma of "light duty" reels? I have personally not seen this in my fishing. Can someone please list real reasons for this? |
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| tcbetka - 5/2/2012 12:50 PM
tswoboda - 5/2/2012 11:27 AM
muskyhunter24 - 5/1/2012 6:30 PM
I have friends that use the Curado DSV for mag dawgs, mainly for the line pickup however I have fears that it will flex the spool too much on either the DSV or the 300E on a hookset which is why I haven't used bigger baits on mine.
How is the resisting force from a hookset any greater when using larger baits?
Ever hear of Sir Isaac Newton?
F = ma
Not that it should be terribly significant but, theoretically speaking anyway, it will take more force to accelerate the lure and thus drive the hooks into the fish's mouth. While I'll admit that this wouldn't necessarily affect the "resistance" of the fish's mouth tissue to hook penetration, it could certainly make a hook set less effective nonetheless--especially if there is any stretch in the line.
TB
Wouldnt the weight of a heavy bait be negligible (only a handful of oz difference) in the equation when your dealing with water resitance,the weight of the fish (8-30lbs), and less power of the longer rods (torgue= force * distance. longer rod more distance less torque).
I am not convinced.
I think alot of people repeat what alot of people say with out thinking it out for themselfs |
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Location: North Central IL USA | anzomcik - 5/2/2012 11:51 AM
I must have the worlds strongest 300's, seeing how I have thrown pounders, big blades, and trolled perchbaits at 5+mph for years and never had "flex" issues. Is the construction any different that other reels?
Well I hope I have one of these worlds strongest because than plan is to put the new 300 I got on the pounder rod. |
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| I've been using Curados since they came out for everything except Double-10s, and I love them. I've tried everyting else and I think they are the best multi-purpose muskie reel available, bar none. There's 5 in my boat right now just waiting for opener on Saturday.
It holds up just fine with pounders, ripping 10" jakes, whatever. I've never flexed a spool on a hookset, that's for sure. The one concession I make when using them is to thumb the spool to take pressure off the anti-reverse when snap-ripping heavy baits. I don't know if that's even necessary, but it's easy to do so I guess it works for me.
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Location: Madison WI | Just to be clear I haven't ever flexed my spool either but that is because I don't put giant baits on it. I have other reels for those baits. However I have had multiple fish hit the 8 inch swimming joe and on the hookset I have watched the spool flex a little bit, it wasn't enough to reshape the spool or break anything. Like I said prior I love my curado 300E and I beat the CRAP out of it every year and it still performs top notch. I'm just not going to potentially break it when I can toss bulldawgs or pounders with my TE. |
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| muskyhunter24 - 5/2/2012 5:24 PM
Just to be clear I haven't ever flexed my spool either but that is because I don't put giant baits on it. I have other reels for those baits. However I have had multiple fish hit the 8 inch swimming joe and on the hookset I have watched the spool flex a little bit, it wasn't enough to reshape the spool or break anything. Like I said prior I love my curado 300E and I beat the CRAP out of it every year and it still performs top notch. I'm just not going to potentially break it when I can toss bulldawgs or pounders with my TE.
Why do you think using a heavier lure will cause spool flex on a HOOKSET and a lighter lure will not? The weight of a the lure whether it's 2 oz or 16 oz is going to be negligible compared to the weight of a musky.
The point I'm trying to convey is that if the spool is going to flex on a HOOKSET, it's going to have nothing to do with the weight or resistance of the lure. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Glad you had this question Ronix. I just got a Curado DSV and my plan was to put it on my Hvy rod for cranks and jerks. And I feel comfortable with that, after reading all the feedbacks. Have 5 Curados overall along with remaining ones' Cronarch, TE's, Stradics Nothing but SHIMANO. Awesome just awesome. |
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| muskyhunter24 - 5/2/2012 6:24 PM
However I have had multiple fish hit the 8 inch swimming joe and on the hookset I have watched the spool flex a little bit, it wasn't enough to reshape the spool or break anything.
Please explain at what point do you have time to watch your spool flex when you are setting the hook? If you can see that spool "flex" while jerking the rod as hard as you can you have better eye site than anyone i know.
I have broke 65lb braid before on backlashes, that would put several times more shock to the spool than a hook set, never had an issue with "spool flex". Heck i have never heard of anyone breaking even 30lb braid on a hook set, so imagion the force it sees when stoping instantly and breaking 65# |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I wonder what Shimano will do with the 300E Curado reels, the Curado G reels are now made in I think Korea and not in Japan anymore, I wonder if Shimano will do the same with the 300 Curado reels ??????? |
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