Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers

Posted 10/25/2002 7:18 AM (#6607)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


Just curious what everybody out there does in the fall time to catch their BIG fish, and why you do it?

I am almost strictly a caster because to honestly tell you the truth I fail miserably when it comes to sucker soaking. Maybe it is because of the clear water I fish. I don't troll because I can't being I fish Vilas county waters.

Posted 10/25/2002 7:24 AM (#48720)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I personally like to cast in the fall with suckers over the side of the boat. I know some guy’s who do the best in the fall trolling, but I have never really “hammered” them doing that.

Posted 10/25/2002 8:20 AM (#48721)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


Cisco Kid,
I'm in the same boat as you. For many reasons, I fail to have success with suckers.... so don't bother with them anymore. Can't troll the water I like to fish... so not an option. Thus, I cast and take what I can get.

jlong

Posted 10/25/2002 9:33 AM (#48722)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I fish in Canada so I don't have a problem with trolling witch I like to do in the fall. So here's my question.
What is the reason for the no troll rule in some of the lakes in the states? I have never fished water with such rules and can't understand the reason for them.

Thanks
Cory Toker

Posted 10/25/2002 9:33 AM (#48723)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


Guys, Guys, keep trying with the suckers, it will pay off big time!!!!!! I use to be like you and gave up sucker fishing for a very long time. Mainly I gave it up because of my job. You see I was a retail manager for many a years and usually my fishing stopped by mid-September because of the Xmas season having sometimes only a day off a week a needed it to recuperate from the public (plus doing errands and chores). Anyways last year my fishing partner got me to try suckers again plus I got to fish later in the season we boated about a dozen fish over forty inches with five over forty-five up to 50 1/2 inches. So, don't give up!!!!! And use quickset rigs, you may only get half of the hits but there are days when the muskies only want the sausage!!!!!! Release em if they are under 54, Al.[:praise:]

Posted 10/25/2002 9:34 AM (#48724)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


Not allowed to troll - Don't like sucker fishing - So only cast.

That makes three of us.

Posted 10/25/2002 10:06 AM (#48725)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


Corey,

It's my personal belief that the reason trolling is not allowed in most northern WI lakes is more due to social reasons than biological ones. I think it was back in the '80's and before that some lakes in N. WI were fished heavily by trollers who had very good sucess. Some of these lakes were small, under 500 acres, and confilcts arose with trollers using multiple lines (3 per angler legal in WI) "hogging" the whole lake to the exclusion of casters. Also, trollers were catching numerous larger fish, and the cry of "fishing out" lakes was raised. Thus due to local pressures, trolling was outlawed for all species on most all lakes in WI. There are seveal in Sawyer Co. in WI, where trolling is legal and I personally really enjoy it. Today however, with most anglers practicing C&R, I see no reason not to allow trolling, it just another method of catching fish[:)] Anyone else have an idea?

Posted 10/25/2002 12:06 PM (#48726)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I have nothing against trolling either and feel it is a legitimate form of angling. However, I do understand the desire for "crowd control" on the numerous small lakes that sprinkle across Oneida and Vilas counties of Wisconsin. Three or 4 boats fishing on my favorite 200 acre lake is absolutely no big deal.... but if 3 of those 4 start trolling laps around the lake... it may get to be a little tight at times (especially for the one guy trying to cast). This is my only hesitation in regard to trolling. Overharvest is only a concern if anglers are allowed 3 lines per person (in the above example those three trollers just became the equivalent of 9 casters). In my opinion, IF there is any advantage to trolling over casting... its the ability to run multiple lines. Eliminate that and it becomes a pretty equal playing field.

Do you think it would be too confusing to restrict trolling (preferably of one line per person) to lakes larger than say 500 or 1000 acres? I feel laws need to be clear and concise.... but not sure if having some lakes open to trolling and others not is any less confusing that today's "position fishing" law.

In jlong's ideal world, Wisconsin would allow trolling on lakes larger than 1000 acres and limit open-water anglers to a single line. It would upset a few meat (sucker) fisherman to lose their "extra" line... but it would make many trollers happy. Fair trade in my opinion considering I am exclusively a caster[:halo:]

Posted 10/25/2002 12:50 PM (#48727)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I too agree that on smaller waters, someone trolling shouldn't be able to fish at the exclusion of others ie' casters. I would disagree about overharvest, it doesn't matter how the fish is caught or how may lines an angler uses, only if it is kept.

Lake specific laws shouldn't be confusing, it just requires an angler to actually read their regulations before fishing a lake. That in itself would be a major feat[:bigsmile:] In the Hayward area, there are around 6 lakes that allow trolling, with those lakes comprising the deeper, clearer lakes, LCO, Grindstone, Round, Whitefish, and all are > 500 acres. So it can be done in other areas, it would just take some local effort at the Spring Hearings and what would likely be the greater task, educating people and changing longheld beliefs that trolling is "wrong"[:devil:]

Posted 10/25/2002 4:12 PM (#48728)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I can't motor a lure on the rivers I fish, and, same with the lake I fish. I drink too much when I soak a sucker and those two pounders make me want to fry them up. I just like to cast all those different lures and try to see a pattern with this lure or that. [:p] [:bigsmile:]

Posted 10/25/2002 4:34 PM (#48729)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


After turnover, I'm usually soaking suckers. My 3 biggest fish have been doing this method with quick strikes. I have trolled a bit also but suckers has put the most in the boat.
Rob

Posted 10/25/2002 5:41 PM (#48730)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I sucker fish about 99% of the time in Fall.I used to do nothing but hunt all Fall and wouldn't fish anymore til Spring.I gave up hunting when a friend of mine turned me on to suckers.There's nothing like the click ,click ,click of a fish on.The biggest fish I ever had on was on a sucker and she was immovable.Never felt anything like it.I still have dreams about how big it could have been.As far as how many lines ,I usually have 2 suckers out when I'm drifting,but sometimes I only use 1 and jig for eyes with a redtail.

Posted 10/25/2002 8:45 PM (#48731)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


I trolled last week and it did not pay off at all. I started casting and caught 2. Trolling was a pattern that worked extremely well all summer. Going to cast and use suckers just like early spring and things should pick up.

Posted 10/26/2002 7:31 AM (#48732)
Subject: Casters vs. Sucker Soakers vs. Trollers


To put it in the words of G.W. Real men don't use SUCKERS. [:bigsmile:]