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| What ever happen to this? http://muskie3.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=69467&start=1
Edited by 50"skie 3/6/2012 9:27 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That thread was a discussion about a high payout Muskie tournament and if another would ever be run similar to Bob M's. |
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| Yeah I know. So is there going to be one? In Minnesota? With in the next couple of years?
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| There are some discussions about it going on right now. How about $250,000?????? Careful what you wish for and start saving your pennies. An event of this magnitude will take LOTS of time and effort to put together. I wonder how much interest there would be in such an event. $2500-$5000 per team, just using hypothetical numbers. Hmmm. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I wonder how much interest there would be in such an event.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71... |
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| That's an interesting poll, but not really dealing with a High Dollar event. For a purse of 100K-200K, how many would be willing to ante up a couple G's, possibly each?? Like G-Rome said....Think Big! Based on the poll, it doesn't sound like there would be much interest in such an event. Also location would be key....how many would fish...say.... Mille Lacs, for a 5 day event? Lots of things to consider. Would love to hear more opinions on the subject.
Edited by Steve Jonesi 3/6/2012 2:12 PM
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| 25 teams- 5K per team (first to get their money in) 5 day format - one place matters - 100k payout. I think you could fill that easy. Heck you might get some "Vegas Guys" to come fish with those odds  |
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| I was in the first mega/BobM tourney,,,If its not on a trophy lake I would not consider it,,,No way Id go to Eagle River and sort through 34 inchers no matter how much the chamber of commerce kicks in,,Its not JUST about the cash only its about the 3 days vacation and time spent too |
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Location: Loves Park, IL | A paid judge boat w/ video camera for each boat fishing, with a purse that size. 30 teams/$5K each team. Maybe pay down a few places, door prize money, host site costs, insurance, etc. Organizer could still walk away with a few bucks. Have it on LOTW or another place with plenty of fish. It would be a fun event. |
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| Probably to many loop holes for LOTW - was I reading a thread that you cant take a fish less than 54" out of the water .....have it on ML of V first week of Nov. |
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| If you go Mile Lacs or V you have to have a Minnesota resident get the permit only residents can get tourney permits |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I'll get the Permit,......But,.... I'm still fishing it
Come On , 100 boats $2,000.-$2,500. a boat with 80% Payback. A 3-4 day Tournament.
Start it in 2013 and have it in June or Oct/ first week of Nov.
Some one do it !
G-Rome |
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| first week of Nov is risky,,freeze up not likely but possible,,,less daylight,,possible safety issues with cold water temps,,the positive is bumping into primetime ciscoe spawn and BIG fish video |
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| To all those who dont like the judge boats, the best of having them is that you have a witness, still have a picture and someone who is there to see that the fish has a good release, per the PMTT if the fish dosent make it, you are done for the day. Very easy to take a picture of the fish on the board but like golf with a lot of money on the line how many guys would call a foul on themselves and take themselves out of the tournament if the fish went belly up on them when released. Just a thought. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | How many fish went belly up over the yrs. that you know of on the PMTT??
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| Thanks Top H20 you prove my point. No I dont believe that they have had a release go belly up, my point. Other tournament such as some on LSC that have boats trollind 3-4 miles per hour catch a fish and put it in a livewell on board and revive the fish and toss it over without stopping the boat god forbid with all those lines out to stop and make sure that it was a good release. Ask the locals if they ever find floaters after one of those tournaments. By waiting for the judge boat everyone has to stop and put all your effort into protecting the fish. Isnt that the main critisim of the tournaments is the lack of care for the fish. |
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| that kind of money on the line sure gets the interest and blood pressure elevated, even for a casual observer.
hold your nose and get ESPN to sponsor the thing, and shoot musky fishing popularity into orbit. Ultimate fighter was once banned from pay t.v. - too violent and obscure - but climbed all the rungs. Why not Musky tourneys. Sure beats B.A.S.S. |
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| The question is moot who has seen $5000.00 or even $2500.00 all at once since Obama has been in office? |
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Location: mpls | I am doing fine, and it sounds like a lot of others are as well.
I'd pay a large entry to have a chance at a BIG payout. It is not for everyone even during the best of times. So please post you view somewhere else.. This is a fishing forum, let's keep it that way.
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| I can imagine that once every few years or so someone would attempt one of these big dollar tournaments. I can't imagine it becoming anymore than that. Musky tournaments just don't generate the kind of public or promotional interest that the bass or walleye tournaments enjoy. Sure you can scrape together a field of guys to do this once in a blue moon but there really aren't enough anglers with the kind of scratch to do this more than every now and then. Not sure what promoters would want the headaches associated with organizing a mega tournament but then I guess there are enough big egos out in the musky world that would tackle an event like that just for the glory. Oops did I just say that? |
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Location: Northwest Wisconsin | Tournament with that payout and maybe I could get someone to lend me there boat for the week. Not sure if my 14ft'er would make the cut. |
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| $2500 in one shot for a BIG payout is better then doing a trail where gas,lodging,time off from work makes it impossible to almost break even
megas you could get paid,,,trails are softball leagues your in it for the fun |
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| I would pay more ($5k) to fish an event with a smaller field (25 boats). That would be sweet. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | ESPN sold off BASS, so they won't be interested in promoting anything in the muskie world. |
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| uptown, you are entirely correct. I was trying to make a joke, but your right this is a fishing forum and there shouldn't be any hint of politics on this forum. Unless the subject is spearing or netting by the native americans then it's open season. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'Unless the subject is spearing or netting by the native americans then it's open season.'
No, it isn't. |
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Location: chisago city,mn. | I remember not that long ago the Hartman tournament seemed like a great tournament.Fair entery $400.00,good payouts 18,000.00 on full field I think 100 boats was always close to full.Then I think he was bought out for 4 years?Not sure on that.I think the best way for a large entery/payout is to even the field PRO-AM tournament.Would you pay 2000.00 to 5000.00 against Hammrenik on Mille Lacs?The last time ther was a tournament on Mille Lacs $400.00 entery 7 teams don't know what happend there. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Paul still runs the Spring fundraiser in the Metro. |
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Location: chisago city,mn. | I know that I see you there great event.But I'am refering to a big pay out tourney.I was thinking that you (Steve W.) were taking over for Paul on the Mille Lacs,Vermilon,Leech?Any truth to that?Was a great tourney. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | No truth at all. Suffice it to say I'll happily let the competitive muskie angling world do whatever it does into the future. Our only involvement will be offering sponsored OutdoorsFIRST coverage wherever that might apply, and helping with the KWM.
We will be providing coverage of the PMTT this season, brought to you by St. Croix Rods. I am looking forward to that, should be fun to point our cameras at Muskie anglers again.
Paul never left; he was involved as an equal partner all the way until the effort was shelved. |
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Location: Hartford Wi | What About a Pro Am type of event??? Pro= Boat Owner and Pays out 2,500 and Am pays out 800.
Total for each prize would be 30 (Pros) at 2,500= 75k
Am's would be 800 for a total of 24k.
Total of 4 days of fishing and the Top 10 from both Catagories fish on the last day.
The AMs get paired up with different Pros each day and the there will be no cheating....I think that would be cool |
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| So does that mean Keyes won't be covering the PMTT? Or are you just doing it in conjunction with them? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'We will be providing coverage of the PMTT this season, brought to you by St. Croix Rods. I am looking forward to that, should be fun to point our cameras at Muskie anglers again.' |
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Location: Minnetonka | I don't mean to sound closed-minded and I love "thinking big", but this is muskie fishing, not the Tarpon of Boca Grande. I think a lot of great "blue collar" muskie anglers would have a hard time paying a $3000-$5000 entry fee. You can call it "The Best of the Richest" tournament.
As a tournament angler, I don't care about payouts. I do it because it's fun to be competitive while doing something that I love. It's like a drug... catching a fish in a tournament... whether there's $200 or $20,000 on the line (okay, maybe my heart pumps a little harder when it's 20K). I'm sure other people see it differently, but that's the pure reasoning behind every tournament I've entered... that moment when she hits the net.
Just a middle-class angler's opinion... |
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| Reality: Once the money gets that big you really need to have randomly placed judges in every boat. Guys have cheated for a whole lot less and more than once. And the only way you know is when they actually get caught...think about that.
It's too bad but thats how it is
Properly staged it would be fun....like Happy says...not a softball league if its big time |
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Muskie Tournament $100,000