Question for lure manufacturers

Posted 10/18/2002 11:57 AM (#1283)
Subject: Question for lure manufacturers


OK, I'll try to keep it brief and will attempt to make some sense.....good luck[:p]
Question for all of you guys that make wood and plastic lures...jerks/twitchers/gliders/cranks,etc.
All of the lures that I have looked at have the ring eye or cotterpin running parallel with the body of the lure. Straight down the middle so to speak. Now add a split ring and a hook. No matter how you turn the hook, there will always be a slight bend or twist or cant to the hook, it never lays perfectly flat against the body with one hook pointing straight out.
Take a look at a treble hook design. 3 hooks combined with one shaft soldered together. If you lay it flat, the soldered hook will be pointing up and the other 2 will lay perfectly flat....especially if T'd. This could be accomplished if the screw eye in the bottom of the lure ran perpendicular instead of parallel to the body. Add a split ring and hook, and the treble would lay flat against the body with the soldered shank facing up and the remaining 2 hooks could be T'd to lay flat.
What is the reason that all the screw eyes lay in the same direction? It can't be aerodynamics or hydraulics, I think that the influence of the eye is minute.
Try turning some sideways and see how much easier it is to get a hook to lay flat against the lure body.
OK, I'm nuts and have too much time to prepare for my next fishing trip, but I have been rotating the screw eyes on my lures 1/4 turn tighter..if possible..and T'ing all the hooks.
Just wondering why.
Beaver

Posted 10/18/2002 6:14 PM (#48150)
Subject: Question for lure manufacturers


Actually, the positioning of the screw eye can change the action of some lures greatly. We have been running screw eyes perpendicular to the lure body on our Cherry Twists and Cherry Bombs since 1989. This is done for the reason you mentioned about keeping the "Y" or "Crotch" of the hook against the lure body. It cuts down on wear and tear from the hook point hitting the lure and also gives the possibility of a better hook set. But mainly we do this to get the desired lure action. On our Wood Tick and Bear Claw we run the screw eyes paralell to the body. This is done for decreased water resistance and a smoother cut through the water. It really depends what kind of action you are looking for from a lure.
You would think that it wouldnt matter: since either the split rings or the screw eye add a cross section to the water resistance no matter which way you turn them.
The secret is this :: The Hydrodynamic qualities of most lures changes from the Screw Eye positioning not the Split Rings. The reason for this is the screw eye is close enough to the lure body to change its action by acting like part of the bodies shape. The split ring - hanging lower allows water to pass between the lure and the ring, thus reducing its water drag.

The best way to see this is with a glider type lure. Turn the screw eyes paralell to the lure body and the bait will glide farther and straighter than when the screw eyes are turned perpendicular to the body.

[:devil:]

Pat
Hellraiser
http://www.hellraisertackle.com

Posted 10/18/2002 7:06 PM (#48151)
Subject: Question for lure manufacturers


beaver-
great post sir! you're not nuts, and you're not alone on your 90 degree adjustments. it's a great idea and i've done this for years on many of my baits, as well as some friends of mine have. (never thought of posting it here tho, darn). even suggested it to some lure manufacturers, but no changes yet. what pat says about changing lure action makes alot of sense and i'm sure he's right, but haven't noticed it yet.
steve