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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | How many of you guys use Plastic grub trailers on your bucktails?,and does it help or not ?
The 2nd question is what do you do with "rusty" hooks on lures that are less than two yrs. old ? and I'm talking about bigger hooks like #5-7 size hooks.
Thanks, Jerome
Edited by Top H2O 2/15/2012 10:26 AM
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Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin | Depending on the lure, I like to use grubs, usually 4" or 5" metal flake or phosphorescent twister tail types. Works well with bucktail but with maraboo it doesn't as it gets all balled up in the feathers too often. I don't care for them used with that tinsel stuff either.
I try to pick a tail that is a good contrast to the bucktail color. The best ones I ever used were called Sizzlers and had solid silver on one side of the tail. They really stood out and added a good bit of flash.
Rusty hooks? If you can't sharpen them, replace them. If they hold a point and aren't too bad I use them. It would take a lot of rust to weaken a hook sufficiently to cause failure. Almost all my hooks have some rust on them after they've been used a while, unless they're stainless or plated, and even then they can get some corrosion where you file them down. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Could I just use some steel wool and clean the rust off and spray some sort of rust inhibiter on them? And yes they can be sharpened. |
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Location: north metro, MN | I like to use trailers on my buck tails. just simply four inch grubs.. coke and olive oil with the hooks my friend. soak them in coke or olive oil to loosen up the rust |
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Location: Detroit River | I use 5" Kalin grubs or the 5" Gander Mt. brand grubs on bucktails. I don't use them on tinsel/flashabou because it gets tangled too much. I use a small/thin screw driver to make a hole in the center of the grub starting at just above where the tail starts & out the top then I insert the hook in the hole starting from above the tail through the top. I have noticed that I catch a lot of other fish besides musky when I use a grub trailer.
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| Some guys like to spray WD-40 on baits as a fish attractant. If you want to use it to inhibit rust on a treble,,,,probably couldn't hurt! |
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Location: Detroit River | Junkman - 2/15/2012 1:15 PM
Some guys like to spray WD-40 on baits as a fish attractant. If you want to use it to inhibit rust on a treble,,,,probably couldn't hurt!
I wouldn't recommend using WD-40 as a fish attractant because you will end up polluting the water. WD-40 contains petroleum based ingredients. It’s nothing more than Urban Legend that WD-40 contains fish oil. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I have seen myself take small panfish twister tails and add one to one of the hooks on the back treble. That tiny little thing is just whipping for all it's worth...it's so cute back there they like to Nip it..... I use big ones too but the little ones are an interesting change up for fish that see allot of lures. The flat pork strips too if you're going to keep the bait wet. The other guys have covered the clean up on the hooks all I would add is if you think the hook has been weakened at all by the corriosion. replace it, period. Same when handling a fish, cut 'em if it helps the fish. Hooks are cheap. |
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| Just FYI for Zib, it's not fish oil I am talking about, just plain oil such as motor oil or even gasoline altogether that a lot of guys believe attract fish. Many will fish marinas for the obvious strcture of all the piers and shade from the boats, but others will fish because of the inevitable dripping of fuel and oil hydrocarbons into the water. I am certainly not saying it's a good idea to pollute the water. Just saying that if somebody wants to spray a little stuff on his hooks, the little that is left on there by the time he gets around to using that bait will not likely keep the fish away. |
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Location: New Hope MN | From the WD40 webpage:
http://www.wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/
What a Fish story!
Myth: WD-40 contains fish oil.
Fact:
Consumers have told us over the years that they have caught some of the biggest fish ever after protecting their fish hooks and lures with WD-40. We believe this legend came from folks assuming that the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so.
WD-40 Company has taken steps to respect and conserve the environment, and encourages its users to do the same. While WD-40 can be used to help protect fishing equipment from rust and corrosion, WD-40 Company does not recommend using WD-40 to attract fish.
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Location: New Hope MN | but yeah i asssumed the fish oil in WD40 and soaked my old rusties in it. Some still caught fish and it did really help with the rust. |
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Location: Ontario | I soak lots of my wooden jerkbaits and they hold and shed lots of moisture out of the pine after they've been laid down after hours or days of fishing. All my jerkbaits have dull/corroded hooks. Use the file and the points are still very sharp. I never understood the bit about wood baits being bad hookers because fish sink their teeth in. Small pike, accicental bass and walleye, muskie, anything I hook on a Suick, Bobbie, Wades etc is hooked ugly and hooked for keeps. It you keep the hooks sticky, fish stick to them like velcro. Suicks and Wades are not fat lures. Like a ruler with three big, sharp trebles. There's very little body mass to get in the way like with shad-profile glide or trolling baits. I probably have cut more Suick hooks outta fish that when using any other bait, casting or trolling. As long as I can get a good point on the hook the ammount of discolouration doesn't mattter to me. Some guys might even argue that a tarnished hook or hardware is more subtle. Bass guys do with weights, swivels etc. But we all know about bass guys haha.
I use Mogambo grubs on bucktail and mariboo spinnerbaits I troll sometimes and never add them to straiight shafted bootails. The hackles extend out far enough and the grub just messes up the natural shimmy they have. Seems like a crime against nature to wrap in all those hackles etc only to have a piece of rubber bobbing around in the middle of it. I could see grubs being better behind deertail being that it's basically dead in the water next to feathers or even tinsel. A rubber tail might help a beaten-up tail catch another fish or two but when you've got ones that's tied well the feathers do more than enough talking on their own. Sometimes a tail can help a spinnerbait stay straight up at higher speeds, sometimes it will make them roll. |
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Location: Ontario | I soak lots of my wooden jerkbaits and they hold and (release) lots of moisture out of the pine after they've been laid down after hours or days of fishing. All my jerkbaits have dull/corroded hooks. Use the file and the points are still very sharp. I never understood the bit about wood baits being bad hookers because fish sink their teeth in. Small pike, accicental bass and walleye, muskie, anything I hook on a Suick, Bobbie, Wades etc is hooked ugly and hooked for keeps. It you keep the hooks sticky, fish stick to them like velcro. Suicks and Wades are not fat lures. Like a ruler with three big, sharp trebles. There's very little body mass to get in the way like with shad-profile glide or trolling baits. I probably have cut more Suick hooks outta fish that when using any other bait, casting or trolling. As long as I can get a good point on the hook the ammount of discolouration doesn't mattter to me. Some guys might even argue that a tarnished hook or hardware is more subtle. Bass guys do with weights, swivels etc. But we all know about bass guys haha.
I use Mogambo grubs on bucktail and mariboo spinnerbaits I troll sometimes and never add them to straiight shafted bootails. The hackles extend out far enough and the grub just messes up the natural shimmy they have. Seems like a crime against nature to wrap in all those hackles etc only to have a piece of rubber bobbing around in the middle of it. I could see grubs being better behind deertail being that it's basically dead in the water next to feathers or even tinsel. A rubber tail might help a beaten-up tail catch another fish or two but when you've got ones that's tied well the feathers do more than enough talking on their own. Sometimes a tail can help a spinnerbait stay straight up at higher speeds, sometimes it will make them roll. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I've been soaking some hooks and some hook outs in Coke for the last day or so and have not noticed much change so far,...... I'll give it another day or so.
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Location: Maryland | Soak the hooks in coca cola and take some steel wool n clean them off then take a file n sharpen them. |
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| Why not just buy new hooks? They're not that expensive, and since you're a tournament guy are you going to trust an old rusty hook when money's on the line?
Then get some rust inhibitor chips and throw them in your tackle boxes. VCI and Zerust have both worked great for me.
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Bucktail/Hooks question.