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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | I am looking at a 2002 Rebel 16ft and a Alaskan 2002 16ft. All I know is the Lund Alaskan has .100 aluminum vs .070 for the rebel. Thanks very much to those who responded. - Have a G R E A T Christmas.
Edited by basscaster 12/22/2011 9:29 PM
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| The best thing I can suggest is to look at them in person. I can't speak for 2002 boats specifically, and depending on make and model they can vary significantly from older models to models on the internet. A good thing to do is check the specs through Boat Farm and other sites. If I recall, the Alaskan is long and skinny compared to the Rebel. Both are good boats, but what I want in a boat and what someone else wants in a boat are two different subjects. The new Rebels are way overpriced, but that doesn't really matter for your 02 comparison. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Overpriced compared to WHAT? A beer can?
http://www.boattest.com/boats/boat_video.aspx?id=2250 |
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| That's not the price available in my area. I assume "my area" is the key word. Not a ton of competition around here, and the 1625 XL SS's are in high demand. Those factors would obviously drive up the price.
The 2010s were around 13k (pretty close to your figure), and the 2011s were around 15k. The 2012s are around 17k. I'm not positive, but I think those are priced with a 50HP Mercury. The 2012s he had in stock when I was there in the beginning of November had 50s on, at least. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Considering outboard pricing and the standard features, that still is a pretty aggressive price. Not anywhere near 'way over priced'. And, Lund offers other price point boats as well, take a look here:
http://www.lundboats.com. |
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| I will admit that "way overpriced" is a little harsh. It's a good boat, but I think it lacks in a few areas that are particularly important to me (not necessarily anyone else). My biggest complaint is rod storage. I believe they will only hold a 7'6", and the placement of the gas tank does not allow for any modification (which is the case for every SS Lund that I'm aware of). Storage in general is fair. Lunds are quality boats. I don't want to give a bad opinion on them, but I think they are all a few thousand dollars more than they should be. |
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| overpriced, an alumacraft competitor 165cs is $15,495 The lund 1625 Rebel XL is $15,395 with similar outboard and electronics, seems pretty competitive. To answer the original question I believe you would enjoy fishing out of a 2002 rebel more than a 2002 alaskan. are they tiller or consol? |
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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | Thanks for pointing my way to the Lundwebsite- good comparison site. Both boats are at least 100 miles from home. I am looking for a 25/40 engine for small lakes and quick trips. I like the rebel and just came across a fair deal on a 16ft Alaskan. which boat is made better ? Will a garage kept 2002 Rebel be a good sturdy boat that I can drag carefully on gravel banks without worrying about leaks ?? PM me with your honest opinions about the Rebel or post if you ever owned either boat. I NEED past owners opinions(good or bad) to help with my decision. I am a weekend caster that fishes 30-40 days a year. I take great care of my boat, but am clueless with all these 16 foot models of Lund. I need a complete Floor and halfway decent storage. WHAT length bow mount trolling motor do I need ?? Thanks Guys for pitching in the conversation. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | C&R, You don't manufacture boats, and that's obvious. No one is going to lose money to make you happy, if that's even possible. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
I downloaded the 2002 catalog to try and make comparisons of the two boats in question. In my humble opinion, if the boats are priced the same, you are getting a little more boat with less fit and finish in the alaskan than you are with the rebel. The alaskan does not have a raised floor, but it is a tad wider and can take more HP. The only draw back I see in this boat are the two storage compartments on each side of the boat toward the bow. I think that could work as a great place to sit while working with a fish, but some might think it would be in the way if you have to walk a fish around the boat.
The rebel 16 has a little nicer finish with carpeted floors and a slightly raised bow area. The storage area up front is in that bow area on the floor. The Rebel is a little narrower overall, but I feel has a more open layout which is uniform on both sides of the boat, and a front end that does not have above floor storage.
In terms of durability, I don't think you could go wrong with either boat. Lund builds an extremely strong boat and the chances of either boat leaking are very very slim. The only way that a leak could develop if if a rivet pops, but those are usually very few and far between. Neither boat is going to have any trouble being pulled up on gravel shorelines, bumping a rock here and there, etc.
The Alaskan is a touch heavier, and has a 1/2" advantage in bow depth which can be a little better for ride quality and will blow around a little less which is nice.
The Rebel may be a touch quieter since it has carpeted floors, and will be a touch easier to handle by yourself being it is a bit smaller and lighter.
If you are looking for something that can take a smaller motor (if I recall..25 to 40?), then I would say the rebel would be your better bet. Lighter load overall will mean easier work on the motor when propped correctly, and a 40 hp motor will push that boat along just fine.
Now...with both boats being just under 35" in bow depth, I would say a 54" shaft would be plenty. If you start getting into waves that pull the TM prop out of the water, I would say conditions are getting close to being beyond what the operator can keep under good control and in position for casting while keeping your balance. I would guesstimate for that to occur, you would be in roughly 2 foot waves (wave valley to wave crest).
Hope this help some...
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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | Thanks Steve for answering my question. I think you are right on !! I liked the cosmetics of the Rebel too. I appreciate your Help, I will check out your source and read it. Have a GREAT 2012. . . . Remember. . Peace on earth Guys !! lol
Edited by basscaster 12/26/2011 1:55 PM
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Lund: Rebel vs Alaskan.