Phantom -> Phantom softtail
muskyjerk
Posted 12/19/2011 4:00 PM (#529402)
Subject: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Recently did some cutting, epoxy, glueing, hook hanger movement to make some regular phantoms into phantom softtails. The ones with phantom replacement tails looked like a musky was following even though there are no muskies in the local lake I tried them in. I cut a 6" Mogumbo for another and it didn't run left to right well. The thickness on the tail is about 2x as thich as the phantom tail. Also a little larger. Might be putting the brakes on the glide. Any thoughts?
Targa01
Posted 12/19/2011 4:24 PM (#529407 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail





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Location: Grand Rapids MN
You're right. If the tail is to thick or large for the size of the bait it kills the glide. Action Plastic grubs (which were the original tails used on Phantoms) and the 5" (I believe) Mogambo if thinner also or get the replacement tails from Phantom.
CASTING55
Posted 12/19/2011 5:18 PM (#529420 - in reply to #529407)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Location: N.FIB
mto has the replacement tails for a good price
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 12/19/2011 6:15 PM (#529427 - in reply to #529420)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail





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Location: St. Lawrence River
CASTING55 - 12/19/2011 6:18 PM

mto has the replacement tails for a good price
get two free phantom lures decals with the purchase of a phantom product on mto...I wonder if that holds true with buying replacement tails.
CASTING55
Posted 12/19/2011 6:42 PM (#529430 - in reply to #529427)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Location: N.FIB
ask aaron at mto,he responds back pretty fast when I ask him a question
MartinTD
Posted 12/20/2011 12:18 PM (#529514 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail





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Location: NorthCentral WI
Take a scissors and trim the Kalin's tail down to about half the thickness. Has always worked for me. I always get the Kalin's and trim them just because they are readily available at local shops where others are not.
muskyjerk
Posted 12/20/2011 3:33 PM (#529543 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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got some phantom replacements when R&H had no shipping cost recently but I didn't get enough colors. Martin you have me curious as I have the mogumbo's already in the right colors. Not sure how to describe this but I guess x,y,z axises might do it. The length 6" would be the x axis. Y would be the height. For these two axis picture what you would see in a catalog. the z axis would be lookig at the lure from directly behind or the front. This is what I meant by thickness of the tail. is your half the thickness on the z axis or on the two dimensional x,y axises? If what you are doing is working I'm thankful as it will save me time and money. If it is the z axis any more explanation as how to slice it would save me some of the experience curve and a few mess up tails. Thank you in advance.
MuskieFever
Posted 12/21/2011 4:08 PM (#529674 - in reply to #529514)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Location: Maplewood, MN
MartinTD - 12/20/2011 12:18 PM

Take a scissors and trim the Kalin's tail down to about half the thickness. Has always worked for me. I always get the Kalin's and trim them just because they are readily available at local shops where others are not.


I also use Kalin's, great acton with these grubs. Just gotta make sure you trim enough off.
esoxone
Posted 12/21/2011 6:17 PM (#529688 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Muskyjerk,
Get a original phantom tail grub, placed it on a mogambo grub and shape of the mogambo's tail following the design of the original phantom's tail.
Hope this helps you.

esoxone
MartinTD
Posted 12/22/2011 7:25 AM (#529744 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: RE: Phantom -> Phantom softtail





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Location: NorthCentral WI
muskyjerk,

Something like this anyway...


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esoxone
Posted 12/22/2011 8:30 AM (#529755 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Yes, that's right, MartinTD !!!!

esoxone
Troyz.
Posted 12/22/2011 8:48 AM (#529760 - in reply to #529755)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Location: Watertown, MN
If you do not have phantoms tails, action plastics is a close second. no trimming of tail needeed.

Troy
muskyjerk
Posted 12/22/2011 3:50 PM (#529813 - in reply to #529402)
Subject: Re: Phantom -> Phantom softtail




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Martin, awesome graphic. tried it out today and it was an improvement. Thank you.