frustrated and confused
TattooTom
Posted 11/14/2011 7:12 PM (#524648)
Subject: frustrated and confused




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I am new to making my own lures. I have cut out some shapes and have added the eyes. I weighed them in water on a gram scale. I wrote down the number and then I weighed the weight. HOLY COW was that a lot of lead. The baits are only 6 & 8 inches long. Is this right? Sorry if this is a lame question.
Landonfish
Posted 11/14/2011 8:20 PM (#524658 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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Depends on what you are wanting the baits to do. Are you making gliders or crankbaits? If u wanting the baits to sink then yes it usually takes a bit of weight. Crankbaits you usually just weight enough to sit upright in the water and then a little weight front or back to get the action u desire
wallydiven
Posted 11/14/2011 11:02 PM (#524687 - in reply to #524658)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused





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Location: northern indiana
Landonfish - 11/14/2011 8:20 PM

Depends on what you are wanting the baits to do. Are you making gliders or crankbaits? If u wanting the baits to sink then yes it usually takes a bit of weight. Crankbaits you usually just weight enough to sit upright in the water and then a little weight front or back to get the action u desire
Very good info about the cranks here. But then again, I'm not a maker.
Basschamp167
Posted 11/15/2011 1:35 AM (#524691 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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What type of wood are you using? It would help to know that as well
TattooTom
Posted 11/15/2011 5:02 PM (#524751 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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I am using treated Cedar. The wood is an inch thick and I have rounded over the edges. I have about 12 planks laying around and thought I'd try my hand at this. I currently do not have the ability to melt lead or any other metal. I would guess ,scaling down the width of the lure would cause the weight to be scaled back some. I know you all have been down this road.I know this is a learning process. Your advice is GREATLY appreciated.
RiverMan
Posted 11/15/2011 5:33 PM (#524756 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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Location: Oregon
Tom,

Go to this web page: http://www.lurebuilding.nl/indexeng.html

Once you get there, click on the "crankbait" tab on the left and choose a style of crank you would like to build. This will give you a good start.

Jed
Bikini Bait Co.
Landonfish
Posted 11/16/2011 5:22 AM (#524802 - in reply to #524648)
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Another tip I would give is just use egg sinkers to weight them. Just drill, drop in, and epoxy.

TattooTom
Posted 11/16/2011 5:00 PM (#524860 - in reply to #524648)
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Thanks guys! I forgot to say that I am trying to make gliders and cranks. Jed- I'll check out that site. I have been using the egg sinkers.It seemed that the whole lure would be weight. I'm off next week so I'll be trying some stuff.
newmuskyz
Posted 11/16/2011 5:32 PM (#524871 - in reply to #524860)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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no need to get frustrated just yet....takes alot of bad ones to make one good one..each bait that you test you need to read what it does, if it runs too high in the nose, weight the nose more, etc. try to build an easy shape first and practice with that. dont attempt to carve a hog sucker from mahogany on your first few. the egg sinkers work good for smaller baits imo, but for larger ones made from buoyant wood like cedar you may need a lead pot. $50 to 70$ will get you a nice one. I prefer to melt my lead, but do it carefully in a well ventillated area. sometimes its not how much lead but its where it is in the bait. solid lead plugs allow concentration of more weight in a spefic area in a bait. wood can also be tricky as each piece is different, naturally. thats the beauty of resin, consistency, but some wood baits are just "magic". take your time and enjoy it...hope that helps.

Edited by newmuskyz 11/16/2011 5:33 PM
TattooTom
Posted 11/17/2011 7:07 PM (#525078 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused




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They are everywhere.

Edited by TattooTom 11/17/2011 7:16 PM
gus_webb
Posted 11/21/2011 3:20 PM (#525508 - in reply to #524648)
Subject: Re: frustrated and confused





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Location: Nordeast Minneapolis
For melting lead, I got myself a supercheap non-stick pan from the thrift store. I use a regular hand torch to melt it (outside), and I use old lead tire weights I got for free from a local Tires Plus shop. They're more than happy to get rid of lead... but you have to sift through them a bit, because some of them are a composite that doesn't melt at any temp my torch can reach.
Newmuskyz is right, too... different chunks of wood will react differently to the same amount of lead. Some will be magic and some will be garbage, while they both might look identical.
Beaver
Posted 11/26/2011 2:50 PM (#526022 - in reply to #525508)
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Depending on the wood, they all require more or less weighting to get them to work properly. I made some last year that were from some 1.25" stock and by the time that I got them to sink slowly, they were guite heavy, but they worked like a charm. Remember, if they weigh alot in your hand after you weight them neutrally, they still weigh nothing in the water.
Beav