Posted 6/7/2011 5:46 PM (#501738 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Posts: 1887
Location: syracuse indiana
jon have you ever gotten any video of the bondy bait working under the water. i primarly use fuzzies and have used yours and even dawgs rigged up in the same manner as the bondy.. im just wondering.. again very good vid
Posted 6/7/2011 8:03 PM (#501758 - in reply to #501754) Subject: Re: Good Video
Posts: 134
Great Video!
Any difference in how you fish with jigs in lakes versus rivers? I too am intrigued. Never tried this technique, but definitely seems like a good method for those bluebird days.
Posted 6/7/2011 8:49 PM (#501762 - in reply to #501758) Subject: Re: Good Video
Posts: 538
Location: northern indiana
I'm no pro but would asume most lakes have streams, rivers, or some kind of inflow as well, which in return creates current or flowages with breaks and dropoffs. But that would be just a guess.
Posted 6/7/2011 9:48 PM (#501771 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Posts: 243
Great video. Loved the hookset and nice to see The Man actually work it. I definitely picked up a tip about my drop technique and plan to fish my bondies a little more this season.
Posted 6/7/2011 10:21 PM (#501775 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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Jon,
Great video! I have been meaning to buy one of your baits and now I must! Have fished the fuzzy with some luck in the past and I need to do some more jigging. I want to get out your way this summer, but I think it should work on the lakes in our area as well.
What's the deal with the net? Did you fill it with foam or is there another secret to keep it floating (at least it seemed like it was and you weren't concerned)?
It might be tough to get good underwater video while jigging that deep, but it would be really cool if it worked out!
Posted 6/8/2011 1:18 AM (#501784 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Posts: 1296
Location: WI
Awesome vid, I think I'm going to have to try that where I fish.
Bondy
Posted 6/8/2011 3:13 AM (#501785 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
Thanks all. I generally fish it 18-30 ft here, but I've heard of guys using it as deep as 60 on some northern lakes. The lake trout guys use them well over 100.
Posted 6/8/2011 7:31 AM (#501798 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Location: Contrarian Island
you don't need current to use these...I started using them a few years ago on lakes in WI and for the amount of hours I have used them I have caught a high # of muskies on them...and even big walleyes...
Posted 6/8/2011 8:05 AM (#501804 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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Awesome video!! What I really appreciated was the detail you described in what to use and how to use it. I have never tried anything like this, but the Mississippi is right out my back door. We dont have shipping channels up here but there are definite deep channels and while watching this video I was already thinking of areas I have found over the years that I want to try this.
Trouble is right now the river is so high that I really hate fishing out there. So much current flowing along with logs and everything else.
One question, you commented about following the breakline, do you ever try to hold in one specific spot and jig? Reason I ask is that I have found some sunken treasures, what I believe are old ice breakers or something that are in like 20 feet of water, that top out at 12 right in the main channel. I have seen tons of baitfish around these things and it is one area I thought about.
Posted 6/8/2011 1:28 PM (#501855 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Location: Ontario
This is how to at it's best!
Thanks for taking the time doing this
Bondy
Posted 6/8/2011 1:57 PM (#501865 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
Wow. Thanks guys for the terrific comments. Been doing good each day with it. Not sure how to post pics, but yesterday at 6:30 am my client got a 50 inch with a 26 inch girth. Someone said they calculated it at 42.25lbs....
Posted 6/8/2011 2:02 PM (#501866 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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I just ordered 2 and am going to try it on my local lakes. Does anyone have experience on how to apply this to lakes? Do I stay above the thermocline? ect?? or go to the bottom in 40' of water?
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R Swain
Posted 6/8/2011 2:06 PM (#501868 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
Jon, great video. Friends, my wife and I will be there alot this summer. Will try your tactics. I'm convinced. Thanks.
Posted 6/8/2011 2:10 PM (#501869 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Jon,
To post either a video or an image, both of which we would appreciate, you need to register for the board and the upload site and login. Please do.
Posted 6/8/2011 2:21 PM (#501875 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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OK....for any guys fishing lakes, get well out from the drops, even sometimes idling around until you see something on the screen, then chuck it out and over the drops, making a loud comotion as it lands. Then stair step it down the breaks.
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Posted 6/9/2011 3:09 AM (#501990 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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Locked down, they'll still rip it off. With this technique, I really believe that when you set the hook, all you are doing is getting those points started. You need to apply alot of pressure to dig those brabs in...
Posted 6/10/2011 5:16 PM (#502272 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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I tried uploading the video 2 days ago to upload.outdoorsfirst.com. It looked like it uploaded properly but I still don't see it up there. I'll give it another shot.
Posted 6/10/2011 5:20 PM (#502274 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
First, you need to be registered for the upload site, click on register if you hsaven't yet, register, and then login.
If you have already registered, Click on the upload button on the upper right of this page. Login, then select the video file you wish to upload. Under category, select freshwater fishing. Under select a species, select Muskie. Keep your description to a couple lines, and any keywords you like separated by commas in the tags box, and click submit. When the video uploads properly, you will eventually see an encoder go through Iphone, 360 P, etc, blue progress bars.
Let me know if you have any problems!
I saw you login, hopefully everything goes smoothy, and thanks!
Posted 6/11/2011 9:09 AM (#502341 - in reply to #502328) Subject: Re: Good Video
Location: 31
Awesome video dude!
I never considered slowing the drop like that, I definitely learned something valuable! Thanks for sharing... maybe I won't get laughed at when I wear my up downer now?
Posted 6/11/2011 9:53 AM (#502342 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Bondy baits can be used for other fish like Lake Trout !!!!
I use them at Lake Athabasca in Saskatchewan Canada, I use them like Jon does for Musky, on a slow drift jigging or a slow troll jigging the bait up and down. Here is a pic of a 36lb LAKE TROUT caught on a Bondy Bait.
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Posted 6/11/2011 9:59 PM (#502386 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Here's a question I have been wondering. Where I fish, there are large schools of bait, which I usually find halfway down the water column (e.g. they would be suspended in 20 ft. down in 40 ft. of water). I have had success catching muskie while trolling deep divers when I encountered these suspended bait, but was wondering if you ever heard of anyone having success jigging your baits right in the heart (or slightly above) these large schools of suspended baitfish? I prefer to cast and this seems like a way I can catch these deep water suspended fish without trolling. By the way, great video!
Posted 6/12/2011 10:23 AM (#502419 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Jon, thanks for the great video.
I, too, am wondering about using your bait in lakes v. rivers. Find the bait fish and vertical jig through that depth column? Looks like you are doing 4-5 foot jigs?
Also, I have not handled your baits. Aside from the lack of tail, how else are they different from Dogs? Heavier nose?
Posted 6/12/2011 1:54 PM (#502438 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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Thanks Steve. The baits sink nose down. And alot of guys use them in lakes, either over deep stuff vertically or by jigging them down breaklines. The bait has actually won 5 tourneys that I know of. One PMTT on a river in 2008, but 4 Muskies Canada events all held on lakes in Ontario have been won with it where guys do nothing but pull them down drop offs, hopping them 3-5 feet and letting it fall on a tight line. I'll be the first to admit that it is a dumb and simple looking lure, but there is something about it that makes it a good one. I never initially intended to sell them, but they worked better than I thought. Good luck!
Posted 6/13/2011 8:02 AM (#502500 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Hi Jon
Really nice video. I got a little nervous for you when your net and GoPro slipped into the water at the end!
It is really interesting seeing the slight variance in techniques used by the jigging guys out your way vs. the guys fishing here on the Niagara and St Lawrence. But what is even more interesting is the similarities.
The hooksets with the fish below your feet can be jarring! Great footage! Thanks for sharing...
Posted 6/13/2011 4:31 PM (#502617 - in reply to #501707) Subject: Re: Good Video
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Jon, quick follow up: The Bondy baits for sale @ Thorne's have two sets up trebles, one fore and one aft. It *looks* like the bait in your video only has the rear hooks. Is that correct? Any opinion on hook placement on your bait?
Posted 6/13/2011 5:56 PM (#502634 - in reply to #501707) Subject: RE: Good Video
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Nope. It has both hooks on it in the video. Sometime if fishing is slow, or I have an inexperienced client, I will even take the line tie split ring off the top, slide a 3rd treble on the eye, then put that split ring back on there which holds it on. That is a good tip that works, but most of the time I just use the two bottom ones. They are premium, ultra sharp extra strong round bend VMC's.