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Location: SE Wisconsin | Humans can hear voices from under the water and digital recorders can pick up the sound, but what do muskies hear? On a quiet lake, surely the 'noise' will be louder than a busy lake with propellers cutting up the surface, but even then, to what degree can they 'hear'? My take is that they feel 'noise', so as to say you can't train a muskie a language. We were designed to hear, and recorders were designed to translate noise into sound for us to hear, but fish are designed completely different... So, what's your take on it? Do fish actually 'hear' (feel) when you say, "There's a fish!" before artistically drawing a big oval in the water to entice an eager follower?
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| Personally...I don't think they "hear" (no ears on the sides of their head) so much as they "FEEL" vibrations. Sound IS vibrations. Both in air and underwater. Water transmits sound vibrations far more than in the air. Remember that huge lateral line of theirs. |
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| Don't know if they "hear" it but IME they respond negatively to a screamed "Holy !!###**** " at boatside. You can sometimes observe the same responce with a topwater strike 40 feet from the boat. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | I don't like yelling at the fish anyways, it seems cruel. 
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| fish hear a lot of cussing from our gang. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I know one fish that likes John Fogerty music. Stayed alongside the boat for almost a 1/2 hour while we were fishing the other side. Never saw any bubbles though so I don't think he was singing along. But he stuck right there till we changed the CD. Not a Hendrix fan//// |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Tough to say what a fish is capable of "hearing"... I'm assuming they can "feel" the vibrations of sound going through the water. Although, what that means to them - who knows? Maybe they don't think it's any cause for concern? Maybe some do? Each fish is different in and of itself... maybe what would be startling to some musky would not cause another to even flinch.
Still... I think it's a good topic. Interesting, if nothing else. |
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Location: Warroad, Mn | Fish do have the ability to hear. Fish have inner ears. If you are really interested in learning more about this do a google search on "fish hearing", there's lots of infromation. Doug Johnson |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fish actually do hear, just not the same way we do, and depending on the evolutionary pathway, developed differing inner ear structures, some coupled with the air bladder, to allow pretty sophisticated hearing abilities.
Pike and Muskie hearing has been seemingly extensively studied, as has the lateral line. If you look around a bit, you will find plenty of reading, all very interesting. The general consensus on 'startling' a fish with noise is the reaction is seen when a sudden and loud noise occurs in proximity that would generate a flight response. A radio, for example, is fairly continuous in the stream of pressure waves, and as I mentioned earlier, unless there's silence on the radio and a sudden crash of CCR emits, it's not likely the flight response will be the result. Walking along a shoreline out of the line of sight will elicit a flight response in many fish, I'm sure you have seen that at one time or another. If that sound is a constant, and the flight response would be wasteful, the fish conditions to a much reduced response. An example is an ice drill in the winter...on lakes where there are lots of anglers, the fish totally ignore the sound. On lakes where very few ice drills are present, the fish startle visibly when a new hole is drilled close by.
Image 1) Light micrographs of the ears of unexposed northern pike and lake chub.
Image 2) Scanning electron micrographs of utricles of exposed fish. (A) Lake chub 80E exposed to 20 shots at low magnification. (B) Same tissue at higher magnification. (C) Young pike 94E exposed to 20 shots at low magnification
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | They hear the click of my camera! |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Fish don't hear, "they just feel vibrations through their lateral line"! That's about the most stupid assumption that I've seen on MF.
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, explain this theory. Fish do actually have both auditory and lateral line systems. Human's also have a lateral line "type" system. Want me to prove it?
Close your eye's and have your girl friend or wife blow gently on a part of your body, 
Did you feel it or hear it?
If you don't know which, send her to my house (when my wife is gone)- actually maybe that's not a good idea, as I value my health & well being.
Have fun!
Al
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Location: Cohasset, MN | Ever have a fish come in hot and you accidentally tick your rod on the gunwale ? Did they hear it (ear), feel it (lateral line), or both ? Certainly they didn't like it ! |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | So based on Steve's response, there might be some conditioning to 'sound' on some waters versus others. A quiet Northwoods puddle versus Minnetonka. . |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | yes.The fish have to adjust to the environment like we do, just with far less sophistication. If you move in next to an airport, the first few days are going to be rough...after that, you probably won't even 'hear' the jets anymore. |
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| I bet this muskie can hear pretty well!
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Dang! That is one Ugly Fish! ....Looks like a fish from Japan, or Three Mile Island,..... Or The Fox Chain.......
It has ears like Shrek.
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I think Muskies like Aero Smith best, but then some seem to like the Beetles too. Rolling Stones with "Start me Up" might get them moving. I caught a couple Muskies while listening to KTIS (local Christian station) so maybe Christian songs can add a "divine" influence? After all, Jesus was a fisherman too. |
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Location: Mayer, MN | Sam Ubl - 5/25/2011 7:29 AM
So based on Steve's response, there might be some conditioning to 'sound' on some waters versus others. A quiet Northwoods puddle versus Minnetonka. .
The trick on Tonka is in the matter in which you speak. Can't be out there talking like a sailor. You have to recognize that Tonka fish are refined and are surrounded by influential people.
Therefore I speak like Thurston Howell III. When yelling "Lovie, get the net!" the muskies don't even flinch.
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Location: Blaine, MN | lots of luck - 5/26/2011 1:27 PM
Sam Ubl - 5/25/2011 7:29 AM
So based on Steve's response, there might be some conditioning to 'sound' on some waters versus others. A quiet Northwoods puddle versus Minnetonka. .
The trick on Tonka is in the matter in which you speak. Can't be out there talking like a sailor. You have to recognize that Tonka fish are refined and are surrounded by influential people.
Therefore I speak like Thurston Howell III. When yelling "Lovie, get the net!" the muskies don't even flinch.
And you have to drink all of your beverages with your pinkiy finger in the air. that one is key.
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