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| Do I want the 50 or 60? 60 holds more line. I don't want to exclusively burn the double 10's and but will want to. was looking at a saltist but its just to darn big for me. will the 60 give me any advantage over the 50 as far as brining the lure in a little quicker if desired? I'm thinking initially it will when the lure hits the water. but maybe i'm overthinking this. I know its not the most ideal reel for "burning" them in but will I have the ability if desired with my quick hands!?!? how is the winch for say bulldawgs and other lures? i'm assuming cranks will be easy to pull in on it. i use my double 10's rod as my magdawg rod too. |
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Location: Oshkosh | 60
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Location: MN | There's no way no matter how quick your hands are that you'll be able to burn in any way shape or form with a Winch. As far as bulldawgs go it's almost the worst possible reel for the job you end up cranking like crazy to pick up slack then when a fish dose hit you have no way to keep up when it swims at you. Get a saltist 20 or Trinidad 14 and hold the rods fore grip. |
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Location: Okoboji | what are they good for??? |
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Location: MN | kodiak - 5/24/2011 9:30 AM
what are they good for???
Slow rolling cow girls and spinnerbaits. |
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Location: North Central IL USA | I opted for the regular Toro ( 5.4 :1 ). That winch seems too one dimensional for me. |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | gregk9 - 5/24/2011 9:52 AM
I opted for the regular Toro ( 5.4 :1 ). That winch seems too one dimensional for me.
Agreed. I used my fishing partner's winch a bit last year and did not like it at all. Yeah, the low gear ratio really eases the resistance of big blades but I feel you have to reel very fast for even a standard bucktail retrieve. "Burning" is out of the question. As far as bulldawgs I would totally agree again, you want a reel with more line pick up. The regular toro is a much better choice IMO for both applications. You guys using the winch need to man up when it comes to big blades.  |
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Location: Mapleton Mn | I have the 50 and I'm on my second season with it. I have no complaints from this reel. |
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| ok, i won't mind bringing them in with a higher gear ratio reel. done it before but don't want to burn a reel out. like i said, it won't be exclusively but i want to be able to. the saltist is a tank, even the 20. guess i'm looking for a low profile in a simliar price range. didn't realize the winch was that much slower. |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | I would suggest trying before buying if at all possible. (A friend or someone you know probably has a winch.) Who knows, you may like it. (My buddy says he loves it but I think he's just in denial.) |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | The Winch is no more one-dimensional than a reel used to "burn" a Double 10 or Double 13. Burning a bucktail? That's a pretty tiny niche in the world of musky fishing... at least for me, personally.
I've got all three Revo Toro 60's - the 4.6:1, 5.4:1 and the 6.4:1.
They all have a job and they do their jobs well. After using my Winch several times this season just to get some practice in with it, I can't imagine using any other reel to pull in a Double 10 or Double 13. I also personally prefer the feel and the weight of a low-profile reel. I love palming the reel and again, that's simply personal preference. I tried my fishing buddy's Saltist 20 and Saltist 30 and completely hated them. They're bulky and awkward and just... not my thing.
You're not gonna "burn" a bucktail with the Winch, but I think it can certainly do more than just slow roll 'em at night. I've got no issues spinning the blades on my Super Models and other Double 13's with my Winch.
Again... one man's opinion. That's all.  |
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| you almost need the winch, and the regular 5:4 to cover most lures. I use my winch exclusively for big blades, and some top water lures that i want to work slow. But for everything else there is the regular Revo. But i would agree, the winch is a speciality reel for large blades. But it works great for that. i can throw them all day without wearing out using the winch. |
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| mmmmm. I don't think you need to burn the double 10's exclusively but at times i would like to speed it up and burn them in. maybe 1 in 5 casts if that. i'd also like a reel to bring the magdawgs and regular dawgs in as i use the same rod for both. i'm not worried about my arm getting tired as the reel i use now is in 5.3:1 range. it doesn't bother me bringing in the double 10s but i'm not confident in the durability of the reel. it's older and past its time anyway. looking for a reel that is durable and can handle the double 10's but is also versatile for other lures. checked out a saltist and that thing is just too big and heavy. don't have to have a low profile but don't want something that big and heavy...as the saltist. low profile wouldn't be bad but i would also be fine with a traditional, round reel. freshwater reel, not saltwater. in the price range of the winch. |
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Location: Hopefully on the water | I feel the Revo 5:4 will hold up just fine for how you are describing your fishing. I have used mine 2 season and getting it out this weekend for the start of its 3rd season. I primarily fish dbl's and bulldawgs. I enjoy this reel for both applications. I have 2 winches a 50 and 60 and like them only for blades or to slow my topwater presentation down when i use them. For ripping dawgs, jerk bait or crank baits the winch doesn't even get used. With the 5:4 you can reel them in fairly fast (26" per retrival if I rember right) the winch is right around 23" (not looking at the specs right now). If it is speed you want the saltist 20 will do it (36" per retrival). Yes that reel is big and heavy and takes some getting use to it but once you are it is nice. Hind sight I should have only bought 1 winch instead of 2. I do prefer the feel of the low profile reel but do not mind at this point the size of the Saltist. I would like to try out BNelsons suggestion of changing out the handle to something different and see how that feels on the reels. Good luck maiking your choice and hope we all have fish on the end of our lines many times this year. |
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| i'm all over the board trying to decide. revo toro 5:4 or calcutta 400B? |
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Location: North Central IL USA | I had the same decision as you, DDD. The Toro won over the 400B! |
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Location: Hugo, MN | The 5.4 Toro 60 will do just fine with the double 10's. It will do a better job with jerkbaits, bulldawgs, topwaters and spinnerbaits, too. I think you'd compromise more by going to the winch than you would gain. If it has to do more than slow roll big blades, I'd opt for the 5.4 Revo Toro 60. |
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| any advantage to the 50 or 60 toro? the 50 should fit 150 yards of 80 or 100 lb superbraid right? plus some backing. narrowed it down to the toro, 400b or a curado 300e. don't think i want the extra speed of the curado and 400b is at 5:1. so i think the toro being about in the middle will be my best option. still hold a grudge against shimano from a reel i had. so thats pushing me towards abu. plus a $25 rebate and a sweatshirt. |
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Location: North Central IL USA | The advantage of the 50 for me was the 25% off I got on it. I really like it. I don't necessarly like the bigger reels so this works out fine for me. I got 150 yards of 65 Lb power pro on mine with room to spare. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Buy the Abu Garcia and be done with it. |
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| Revo Toro's in any speed are great! Don't count out the Shimano Curado 300. It is great also. |
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Location: Eagle Grove, Iowa | I like the winch for double10's at night when you need to go at a slower pace anyway. The 5.4 works good on them when you need a little more speed and works good for dogs also. I use the 6.4 high speed for burning small bucktails. Have used all 3 since they came out without a problem. Can't say that about many other brand of reels i used. |
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