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| Last year this happened to me. I was fishing Webster in an area known as Governers Bay. At the time only one other boat was in the bay, when I had a hit and landed a fish. The other boat was Tomcat and thanks to him I have a picture of that fish because I was by myself. As the picture is being taken another boat with three anglers on board came from about six hundred yards away, watched the picture being taken, then while I'm releasing the fish they went directly where I had just caught the fish and dropped their lines in. I was amazed and I am pretty sure by his reaction Tomcat was too. Tomcat, if you see this thread I,m sure you recall this incident. If anyone else has had this happen to them,how would have you handled it? What would you do? I let it slide, but not sure I would again.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I "gently" let them know I'm not happy, by casting near them, around them and so forth. I don't go raise hell or pick any fights as that's just not productive and if they're inconsiderate enough to roll in on you, they're probably the kind of guy to get #*#*ty with you too and in this day and age of road rage and all that, you never know who you're messing with.
If it's really egregious, I'll give them an outward signal, like putting my hands up like, "what the hell?" But I never get aggressive or actually say anything. Because also, if they're the kind of guy to roll in on you, they're probably not the kind of guy to apologize and leave.
But I look at it as a sign of flattery that they want to fish "my" spot and I remind myself they're probably too stupid to find their own fish and that makes me feel better. LOL |
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| But Jeff --you are an imposing looking dude even out of uniform. With those "rocket launchers you have mounted I can't see many wanting too close :-))
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Aw c'mon....I'm a big teddy bear!
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| its a free lake ...some pple are dbags tho haha |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Civility has been lost in most places in our "me first", "anything is acceptable" society. |
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Location: N.FIB | happens everywhere |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yep. |
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| I know it's pretty annoying and has happened to me before. I was fishing last year and a guy races over in his boat to see my catch and drops his line not 10 feet from my boat. I just moved the boat to a different fishing spot and ya know what I caught another big fish and made sure I made a big holler so he could hear it. Those guys reminds me of the people at the casinos who "stalk" the machines.  |
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Location: oswego, il | I took my kids to a stock car race last night. The winner of the feature ran a clean race but a lady in the front row was screaming explatives at the top of her lungs which could be heard clearly 100ft away and I am sure was defening to her 2 year old she held in her right arm. I told my kids that that two year old was not going to grow up to be a rocket scientist. You can't fix stupid and confronting it just leads to more stupidity. Just go around them and move on, no point to ruining your day or maybe something worse. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Boy...wish I could do that in my line of work... Many times I get to deal with that apple that never falls far from the tree that grew at THE very bottom of the steep, steep valley...
In outside of career areas...yep...I'm more inclined to just go a different direction. I have confronted 3 different boats over my 30+ some years fishing on my own...one who cut me off every time in a little boat (I just asked him if he was going to continue to do this because I could do it all afternoon to him in his little 9.9 hp boat and my navigator). The next group was from Iowa with the most annoying little dog that would not stop barking. I just put on the largest lure I had, and started casting directly at their boat...didn't say a thing....they left...except thank you when they said they would leave. The third boat had two half-drunk guys in it. I didn't mess around with that one very much and they headed in anyway...that one had potential larger issues that could have erupted. Not worth it...
I know anytime I have had kids in the boat and it happens, it is a teachable moment...they get upset too, and that is when we talk about ethical and sportsman-like behavior. It is amazing the impact an adult can make when you actually talk about how the actions of others affect their feelings in a situation like this and how they can avoid doing it to others.... It goes a long way when approached properly with young ones...even the way you handle the boat around others is picked up on.
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| It's worse when it's someone you know who you think should know better. When you see three guys in a boat and 2 of them are making laps around the boat with the third making short casts back to the same spot, it's not a good time to motor right up next to them and ask if you have a fishing going....not anymore.
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I was not as mellow when younger and when 2 guys in a rental boat trolled between me and the shoreline I was working I cast out snagged their lures hauled them in. I then proceeded to break them off and toss them over my shoulder. T. Someday I will tell you about the guy that launched his boat and left his truck and trailer in the launch. I left him with flat tires and a note saying if he liked staying in the launch he could stay a little longer. |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | "I am sure was defening to her 2 year old she held in her right arm. I told my kids that that two year old was not going to grow up to be a rocket scientist."
Look at the factors that help lead to kids with learning and behavior problems; that's the big one. Those of us who make a career out of working with kids with behavior and learning problems look no further than mom and dad. It's a no brainer and most sad to see parents do that to one kid, then do the same with the next one. Failing at the most important job in the world.
Worst I ever saw from someone who knew better was an Iowa Great Lakes guide who was doing a TV show on Big Creek Lake near Des Moines with the show host, camera man and a 12 year old kid as guest. Drove his 19.5 Crestliner right into our casting space as we walked the face of the dam casting for bass. I mean 30 feet away with that big boat. |
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Location: Not far enough north! | Down here we have a white bass run in the summer and it can get pretty crazy. The whites school the shad up on the shallow flats and gorge them selves. Most of the time there is a circle of boats casting into a pod of boiling shad with everyone catching fish on every cast. This goes on till the fish move. I take a little different approach and troll for these schools of whites. I am able to locate and waypoint the school on the break before they head up on the humps. The problem is that with 15 boats watching and taking time to turn around usually after three times through a spot with all four rods going at the same time the rest of the boats move right onto the spot...
Really used to bother me but now I either just troll right through the group which is interesting because since they all know they moved in on my spot never really say anything. Or just head off to another flat and find another school...
Its annoying but they guys who don't have the knowledge to do it on their own. Just think of it as you are helping them put fish in the boat. Just move on
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| Tough one. I don't have any hard rules to go by but I usually move along. I'm fairly easy to get along with. I figure if I let it upset me to much and then lose focus which is more important than one spot IMO.
Some cultures its acceptible to fish in such close proximity I've actually learned to accept this. It can actually be an advantage in some instances, I can think of couple areas where shore anglers and boat anglers can target different species and not interfere with the others fishing. It always helps to get to know the people as well. Some friendly banter goes along way.
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | CASTING55 - 5/22/2011 2:26 AM
happens everywhere
Doesn't mean it's right or an acceptable practice. |
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Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON | Most bullies are cowards at heart. I never could stand bullies. From the time I was a kid (many decades ago) I always stood up for folks who were being bullied. Never had one stick around too long once confronted. Do the right thing and expect others to do the right thing, too. Never compromise your morals. |
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Location: Hopefully on the water | There are times that things will be crowded and tight and I understand that on those occassions. When someone comes from aways away it is annoying. What makes it more annoying is when the Waypoint the spot you are on also. Wehave had that happen to us a few times. As VMS stated with kids it is important to make it a learing experience. |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | Fishing Webster, I am used to sharing a common drift line with other boats. Not the optimun fishing experience but it has been cordial and actually fun when we get to share in the experience of other anglers cathing a hard earned fish.
Fishcrazed told of a walleye experience on LOTW a couple of years ago where another boat (Ont. tags no-less) moved in less than 50ft away to fish the spots he was landing eyes on. Never said a word to Todd. As Todd moved on the other boat moved with him. Todd continued landing fish. They did not. So, Todd just began having fun with it (as only Todd can!) "Hey, here's another nice one! Wow, these fish are really bitting today. Man, this is pretty easy!"
The other boat never landed a fish... Haha!
Summary: Inconsiderate people are called that for a reason- they are inconsiderate. |
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| I have seen it all most everywhere I fish from MN to KY. Here in IL I know of a guide that uses others to get on patterns. He will try to push the guy who got the fish off the spot its good stuff. Some people just suck Ask any one who knows me I let them know whats up quick. That's all you can do I figure if I yell at enough people everyone will want to stay away or so I hope |
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| That's a sucky deal. I'll put up with quite a bit, but if it continues, or if I get pinched again after giving way the first time, yer gunna get told you're being an idiot.
Casting is bad enough, but you should try trolling with 100 other boats. There's no shortage of morons who have no idea what proper behavior or etiquette is when you're living/fishing in a "destination" type place.
You can almost hear the thought in your mind when you throw your hands up in the air at their direction......"What are you lookin' at, I'm here for the weekend and I drove a long way to get here, so..!"
In all honesty, often when guys do something dumb when trolling, they honestly didn't know any better and/or it was purely by accident. Still frustrating when you deal with it multiple times a day. Your instance is obviously quite intentional.
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| think about it the same idiots driving the roads(witch there is many) are the same idiots driving the boats.
my first day out this year never got passed the boat launch. while parking my car some idiot with a 250 came up to and around the boat launch loading his motor up and ripped my boat off the dock,rods and boxes fell over. when i got down to the lauch he was docking right next to me so i told him what a idiot he was and so did a few other boaters and was going to leave it at that but the guy said something he shouldn't of and ended up on his back in his boat. car keys,boat keys,phone in lake. i go get my car loaded my boat and went home. like others said above sometimes it's just better not saying anything but i couldn't let that pass. i lost out in the end.
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Location: Janesville | I have people cutting me off all time. I just move on most of the time and say nothing. Some people just do not get it.
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| Happens on Pewaukee Lake every day. Kind of get used to it. Not saying that is right, but it happens.
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Location: North Saint Paul, MN | A few years back we had a group of 8 to 10 guys that went up to LOTW over memorial day to fish walleye. One day two of the boats in our group were trolling in a bay that we have always caught fish. Sometimes it's the only bay we caught fish. So we are trolling back and forth and catching fish. There was another boat on the other end of the bay. They see us catching all these fish and they decide to motor over and drop anchor right in the middle of our trolling path. We asked them what they thought they were doing. All they said is they came all the way from Oklahoma and hadn't caught any fish yet. We didn't get into it any further with them. We just packed up and went to a different spot. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I pretend they're not there---after all, they don't seem to mind getting "up close" to other boats, so if mine crosses within 5 feet of theirs, oh well....again, I figure they don't mind getting "up-close", so I give 'em "up close" if that's the direction I'm headed anyway. Just stay the course, they'll move. |
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